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Buffalo has lost 10 in a row (0-7-3)

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VanJack

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Wow! Can things get any worse in upstate in Buffalo, and in the Big Apple? Tonight, the Sabres lose their 10th straight; while the Rangers lost their 10th in their last 13 games in St. Louis.

I guess Buffalo doesn't come as a huge shock. But the Rangers won the President's Trophy last season and went deep into the playoffs. This year, it could be struggle just to get in. What happened?

Just goes to show that every NHL season is different. One season everything goes right, but the next is an almost complete face-plant. How long can it be before both these teams pull the trigger on some major trades?
 
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DFAC

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Wow! Can things get any worse in upstate in Buffalo, and in the Big Apple? Tonight, the Sabres lose their 10th straight; while the Rangers lost their 10th in their last 13 games in St. Louis.

I guess Buffalo doesn't come as a huge shock. But the Rangers won the President's Trophy last season and went deep into the playoffs. This year, it could be struggle just to get in. What happened?

Just goes to show that every NHL season is different. One season everything goes right, but the next is an almost complete face-plant. How long can it be before both these teams pull the trigger on some major trades?

Shesterkin's play last year masked a lot of underlying problems the Rangers had last year - I remember when the Canucks played them they were very underwhelming.
 
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thecupismine

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This nonsense about 6 expansion teams is ridiculous.

This is exactly how a lot of franchise business' like Krispy Kreme bankrupted themselves in the 2000s. They masked poor year over year store revenues by getting huge revenue boosts by opening a new franchise, and eventually investors caught on to what was happening & understood the actual fundamentals of the business were garbage.

How the NHL thinks it can operate more teams than the NBA, MLB, or NFL is absolutely mind-boggling to me. Diluting the product that heavily when you're primarily a gate driven league sounds like a recipe for disaster long-term.

If they do this, watch a bunch of owners take in the expansion money, then sell their teams right after to capitalize before things get bad down the line.
 

Canuckle1970

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This nonsense about 6 expansion teams is ridiculous.

This is exactly how a lot of franchise business' like Krispy Kreme bankrupted themselves in the 2000s. They masked poor year over year store revenues by getting huge revenue boosts by opening a new franchise, and eventually investors caught on to what was happening & understood the actual fundamentals of the business were garbage.

How the NHL thinks it can operate more teams than the NBA, MLB, or NFL is absolutely mind-boggling to me. Diluting the product that heavily when you're primarily a gate driven league sounds like a recipe for disaster long-term.

If they do this, watch a bunch of owners take in the expansion money, then sell their teams right after to capitalize before things get bad down the line.
Totally agree. Look how desperate teams are right now for even average defensemen.
 
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FuzzyTitus

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The only thing being, diluted means less defense, and more scoring. Which is generally what the average fan wants. I think
 

ManVanFan

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Dylan Guenther 29 points in 30 games
Conor Garland 25 points in 30 games

I would undo that trade 100 times out of 100.
 

ManVanFan

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I'd be fine with the trade if we weren't saddled with OEL's dead space. Sure, Guenther is much younger but whatever. It's the damn 5M we're paying the next two years that sucks.
Getting to the stage where Garland has one more year and is currently playing better than he ever has. Capitalize on it and get some stuff back for him. Never going to get a 9oa pick back but some assets would be good.
 

andora

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Getting to the stage where Garland has one more year and is currently playing better than he ever has. Capitalize on it and get some stuff back for him. Never going to get a 9oa pick back but some assets would be good.
I don't understand this consistent wish that some people have to Simply play cyclical assets

Should Florida have traded Reinhardt and verhage and now Bennett

Come to think of it I'm surprised I don't see more jerseys around with second round pick on the name plate
 
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ManVanFan

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I don't understand this consistent wish that some people have to Simply play cyclical assets

Should Florida have traded Reinhardt and verhage and now Bennett

Come to think of it I'm surprised I don't see more jerseys around with second round pick on the name plate
I don't understand this consistent wish that some people have with never wanting a player to be traded ever.

Should Florida have never traded Huberdeau? Come to think of it, they might have never won a cup then.

See how dumb it sounds when you look at it as stupidly as you did.

You'd pay Garland 7M a year would you?
 

bossram

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This nonsense about 6 expansion teams is ridiculous.

This is exactly how a lot of franchise business' like Krispy Kreme bankrupted themselves in the 2000s. They masked poor year over year store revenues by getting huge revenue boosts by opening a new franchise, and eventually investors caught on to what was happening & understood the actual fundamentals of the business were garbage.

How the NHL thinks it can operate more teams than the NBA, MLB, or NFL is absolutely mind-boggling to me. Diluting the product that heavily when you're primarily a gate driven league sounds like a recipe for disaster long-term.

If they do this, watch a bunch of owners take in the expansion money, then sell their teams right after to capitalize before things get bad down the line.
I'm not for anymore expansion, but the logic from the NHL is that every other major sports league has 29-30 American markets that can support the league. The NHL does not have that many. Therefore, there is room to expand.

The Canadian markets are just a unique part of the NHL, in that Canada has a disproportionate interest in hockey and several Canadian markets are capable of supporting a pro franchise.

I think more franchises will, at some point, dilute the talent level too much. I just don't really find the dilution argument persuasive because you could have said the same thing any other point in time, going from 6-12-20-28-30-32, teams, etc. The players are still good.
 

StreetHawk

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I'm not for anymore expansion, but the logic from the NHL is that every other major sports league has 29-30 American markets that can support the league. The NHL does not have that many. Therefore, there is room to expand.

The Canadian markets are just a unique part of the NHL, in that Canada has a disproportionate interest in hockey and several Canadian markets are capable of supporting a pro franchise.

I think more franchises will, at some point, dilute the talent level too much. I just don't really find the dilution argument persuasive because you could have said the same thing any other point in time, going from 6-12-20-28-30-32, teams, etc. The players are still good.
NHL is not in major US markets like Houston, Arizona, Atlanta, so it's understandable why they'd be interested. But, it was the NHL's choice to not award an expansion club to Houston back in the mid 90's when there were 3 bids for one. AZ, never had a chance with a 4 year old NBA specific arena. ATL, well had their issues once Turner merged with AOL.
 

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