Around the League Thread Drive to the PLAYOFFS

[B-rock]

J.T.'s contract in New York won't age well.....you can almost guarantee it. I'm glad that he's 'enjoying hockey again'.

But he said basically the same thing when he arrived in Vancouver and signed that big-ticket extension. I realize it's crying over spilt milk, but they guy they should have extended instead was Horvat.

Is he as dynamic a player as Miller? No. But he was a younger center; a rock-star in the dressing-room; the team captain, and desperately wanted to stay a Canuck.

In retrospect, he'd have been a far better bet for the team moving forward.

I disagree. Horvat wasn’t moving the team forward. Great guy but wasn’t a difference maker. Didn’t generate much for others on offence as a center. For his size he didn’t play big or stick up for teammates.

As a captain he was completely underwhelming. I like captains that either drag their team into the fight like B Tkachuk or are elite and take over games through their skill and willingness to win - Hughes, Mcdavo, etc. Horvat is neither of those. He’s just there. We would be no further ahead with Horvat.

 

[Bobby9]

JT didn't look like the 2022/2023 JT at all. He was putting in tons of effort but the confidence, the chemistry and the self doubt was evident.

Its crazy watching a player who has all the skills but for some reason just can't put them together again. He was getting visibly frustrated.

 

[Hodgy]

I'd like to enjoy hockey again as well.

 

[StreetHawk]

Comparing eras is silly IMO. Gretzky also played with a wooden stick, skates weren’t nearly as good, and off season training wasn’t remotely as good. He was miles ahead of his peers though, and that’s all you can really look at.

I agree. Each era is different.

I keep forgetting the 12/13 shortened season of another 34 games. Again, if Ovy was born like 48 hours earlier and hit the Sept 15 cutoff, he'd have been a 2003 draft pick. (Obviously, would have been a Panther who had the top pick in 2003 at the time).

The guy really could currently be around 1,000 goals or something by now had everything been laid out perfectly in playing 03/04, and 04/05, the 34 games in 12/13, the extra 13 games in 19/20, and 26 in the Covid 20/21 season. That's like 237 games. Even without the 03/04 season, he'd still have a shot through next season of hitting 1,000 goals had the other seasons played out without any work stoppages.

 

[LemonSauceD]

The fanbase adored you. Even cheered your name more than any other player. Team gave you a nice 64M retirement contract. You make $8M a year and on. You had the privilege of playing with one of the best players in the game in Hughes. You had an elite goaltender. A world class, hall of fame, cup experienced coaching staff. World class treatment.

How tf do you not enjoy hockey? All you had to do was get along with the other 100 point forward and put differences aside. All you had to do was not be a piece of shit. All you had to do was just put in the effort on a consistent basis. You were given everything on a silver platter. What more did you want? You said it yourself, you had everything you wanted here, until you didn’t.

 

[Jyrki]

wrong thread

 

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Throwback Thursday



Jarry after the infamous Marchand incident. Gotta love the class

 

[Jay26]

The fanbase adored you. Even cheered your name more than any other player. Team gave you a nice 64M retirement contract. You make $8M a year and on. You had the privilege of playing with one of the best players in the game in Hughes. You had an elite goaltender. A world class, hall of fame, cup experienced coaching staff. World class treatment.

How tf do you not enjoy hockey? All you had to do was get along with the other 100 point forward and put differences aside. All you had to do was not be a piece of shit. All you had to do was just put in the effort on a consistent basis. You were given everything on a silver platter. What more did you want? You said it yourself, you had everything you wanted here, until you didn’t.

It's because there's something big we don't know. Miller always had a bit of an attitude but guys like him don't just quit. Guys like Boeser don't just quit in a contract year. Young, 100 point centres like Pettersson don't just fall off a cliff.

We're not privy to what decimated this core. And maybe we'll never know.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

It's because there's something big we don't know. Miller always had a bit of an attitude but guys like him don't just quit. Guys like Boeser don't just quit in a contract year. Young, 100 point centres like Pettersson don't just fall off a cliff.

We're not privy to what decimated this core. And maybe we'll never know.

my guess is a big factor was the same thing that turned everyone but hughes into a sourpuss last time, i.e., the canadian division season. a promising playoff run that ended in heartbreak followed by an offseason where it was good, well liked pieces out, underwhelming replacements in.

out: tanev, toffoli, markstrom, to a lesser degree stecher
in: schmidt, hamonic, holtby, hawriluk

out: zadorov, cole, lindholm, to a lesser degree podkolzin
in: forbort, desharnais, debrusk, heinen, the exception is sherwood

 

[Canuckle1970]

Thank you, Krakheads!

 

[F A N]

The fanbase adored you. Even cheered your name more than any other player. Team gave you a nice 64M retirement contract. You make $8M a year and on. You had the privilege of playing with one of the best players in the game in Hughes. You had an elite goaltender. A world class, hall of fame, cup experienced coaching staff. World class treatment.

How tf do you not enjoy hockey? All you had to do was get along with the other 100 point forward and put differences aside. All you had to do was not be a piece of shit. All you had to do was just put in the effort on a consistent basis. You were given everything on a silver platter. What more did you want? You said it yourself, you had everything you wanted here, until you didn’t.

I think you're overreacting here. There was a lot of drama surrounding the team this season and Miller did have to take a personal leave. As a fan there weren't a whole lot of games where I enjoyed watching the Canucks play this season. can you say the Canucks have been a joy to watch this season? Not a whole lot of things to cheer for this season. It can change quickly but we desperately need to see the Canucks go on a winning streak.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I think you're overreacting here. There was a lot of drama surrounding the team this season and Miller did have to take a personal leave. As a fan there weren't a whole lot of games where I enjoyed watching the Canucks play this season. can you say the Canucks have been a joy to watch this season? Not a whole lot of things to cheer for this season. It can change quickly but we desperately need to see the Canucks go on a winning streak.

There’s a huge difference between fan morale and player morale.