Around the League Thread | Drive to the Playoffs

[StreetHawk]

But thats the point... its the baggage that made him have to be moved. I don't deny he can be friends with guys on the team. but the point is that doesn't mean you want to work with him, and it doesn't mean Hughes is a step closer to leaving because of it.

I don't remember who posted it, or the article it was linked from, but it was quoted a few times when Miller was almost first traded to the Rangers this year. People were shocked at the bad value we were getting, and someone posted it.

He went in the McDonaugh trade. Got back Hajek, a RHD, Howden a C, Namestnikov, a 1st and a 2nd which could have been another 1st.

Depending on what you think McDonaugh alone would have netted, the balance would be for Miller. And McDonaugh had 2 PO runs on his current deal at the time IIRC.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

The definitely aren't. Rempe doesn't cross anyones mind as being a reason to spend money to go to a Rangers game. Nor Reaves or any other goon who can't play the game.

You should have seen my Twitter burner. I made like 2 posts direct to Aquaman and the thing came alight with Rempe highlights when he broke in the league. What's the biggest difference between the major 4 sport leagues in NA? Only one not only allows fighting, but celebrates it. You think the American fans didn't get fired up watching the Tkachuks drop the mitts?

I am comfortable disagreeing on that.

 

[Rowlet]

The reveal of Arvidsson and Henrique having unknown NMCs is hilarious, Edmonton only has 4 forwards without trade protection and they all make 1m per year

 

[Hodgy]

I've seen a hell of a lot more reporting about Miller's friends on the team than I have this notion that Miller was an outcast and the whole room supported Pettersson.

I don't think there is any reason to think that either Pettersson or Miller were not liked generally by other players on the team. They didn't get along, but I am sure each had their friends. I wouldn't be surprised if Miller had more friends given that he was a louder personality.

But who had more friends or less wasn't the issue. And I don't think either was really unliked or anything.

Seems relatively clear to me, based on everything that has been reported, that Miller just crossed the line, either with coaching or with something he did to Pettersson, and I think that's what necessitated the trade.

 

[MS]

I don't think there is any reason to think that either Pettersson or Miller were not liked generally by other players on the team. They didn't get along, but I am sure each had their friends. I wouldn't be surprised if Miller had more friends given that he was a louder personality.

But who had more friends or less wasn't the issue. And I don't think either was really unliked or anything.

Seems relatively clear to me, based on everything that has been reported, that Miller just crossed the line, either with coaching or with something he did to Pettersson, and I think that's what necessitated the trade.

Oh, absolutely - your last paragraph is almost certainly the gist of what happened.

But people are posting stuff to the effect that 'the whole room was against Miller' or implying that he was isolated or that Pettersson was more well-liked within the team ... and that simply was not the case.

 

[vancityluongo]

You should have seen my Twitter burner. I made like 2 posts direct to Aquaman and the thing came alight with Rempe highlights when he broke in the league. What's the biggest difference between the major 4 sport leagues in NA? Only one not only allows fighting, but celebrates it. You think the American fans didn't get fired up watching the Tkachuks drop the mitts?

I am comfortable disagreeing on that.

might have to agree with you here

Google Trends

pick any other skill players / stars, results aren't much different. the only hockey players I could find more consistently popular - ovechkin, matthews, mcdavid, m. tkachuk, crosby.

more than anything, it's about how bad the nhl is at marketing, but rempe offers something different from the other major team sports

 

[Hodgy]

Oh, absolutely - your last paragraph is almost certainly the gist of what happened.

But people are posting stuff to the effect that 'the whole room was against Miller' or implying that he was isolated or that Pettersson was more well-liked within the team ... and that simply was not the case.

I think he was friendly and well-liked, and this is kind of semantics, but it wouldn't surprise me if the "whole room was against him" following his transgression in the sense that they all might have believed that he went over the line and something needed to happen. It doesn't mean they all hated him or whatever.

 

[Ernie]

I think he was friendly and well-liked, and this is kind of semantics, but it wouldn't surprise me if the "whole room was against him" following his transgression in the sense that they all might have believed that he went over the line and something needed to happen. It doesn't mean they all hated him or whatever.

Bieksa has compared Miller to Kesler, a guy who obviously had plenty of friends on the team but who also rubbed people the wrong way plenty of times and had a bitter departure. It's exhausting to be around a guy who doesn't know when to turn it off.

Pettersson has a fairly common Nordic personality that isn't particularly warm, but also isn't likely to offend anyone. He's just there.

 

[VanJack]

Bieksa has compared Miller to Kesler, a guy who obviously had plenty of friends on the team but who also rubbed people the wrong way plenty of times and had a bitter departure. It's exhausting to be around a guy who doesn't know when to turn it off.

Pettersson has a fairly common Nordic personality that isn't particularly warm, but also isn't likely to offend anyone. He's just there.

After Miller left for New York, I found some of the comments Allvin made at his press conference to be pretty revealing.

He basically said they admired Miler as a fiery and intense competitor, but a guy 'who crossed the line' at times. I've wondered since what the GM was actually saying?

Did Miller 'cross the line' on the ice or 'in the dressing-room'. My guess it was mostly the latter. And I feel pretty certain that he rubbed a lot of players the wrong way, not just EP40.

 

[hlrsr]

Seems relatively clear to me, based on everything that has been reported, that Miller just crossed the line, either with coaching or with something he did to Pettersson, and I think that's what necessitated the trade.

I also think Miller was happy to move to the East, whether or not he actually asked for a trade. There was a bit of surprise here that Miller even signed in the first given given he's an American player from the East coast. I think with everything going on he also realized he would prefer to be over there.

 

[arttk]

Oh, absolutely - your last paragraph is almost certainly the gist of what happened.

But people are posting stuff to the effect that 'the whole room was against Miller' or implying that he was isolated or that Pettersson was more well-liked within the team ... and that simply was not the case.

To be frozen out, it needs to be way more than be mean to Petey.
Yes he probably crossed the line with coaching staff and some other players on the team.

 

[andora]

To be frozen out, it needs to be way more than be mean to Petey.
Yes he probably crossed the line with coaching staff and some other players on the team.

It's most likely a very specific event that crossed the very specific line that cannot be tolerated in a workplace

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Caulfield with his 30th of the year.

Damn.

 

[Bobby9]

Watching the Habs and Sabres game.

The Sabres might be the most undisciplined team I’ve ever seen. 3 penalties in a row. 2 to Dahlin.

Habs thumping them

 

[arttk]

It's most likely a very specific event that crossed the very specific line that cannot be tolerated in a workplace

Probably pretty bad for it to not leak out period despite the journalists knowing about it

 

[Breakers]

How da FUQ is edmonton management just """discovering""" that Henrique and arvidsson have NMC and NTC clauses

 

[andora]

How da FUQ is edmonton management just """discovering""" that Henrique and arvidsson have NMC and NTC clauses

I guess the guys were playing never have I ever in the dressing room

 

[arttk]

How da FUQ is edmonton management just """discovering""" that Henrique and arvidsson have NMC and NTC clauses

Also both players asking the question why is management in the process of “discovering” they have nmc

Imagine wife asking why are you discovering we have a prenup

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Miller another 2 points tonight. 14 points in 11 games.

I love that we traded away a superstar for peanuts.

Let's please not screw this up with Pete. I still believe in him.

 

[Breakers]

Miller another 2 points tonight. 14 points in 11 games.

I love that we traded away a superstar for peanuts.

Let's please not screw this up with Pete. I still believe in him.

I swear to god this organization has been franked by trade clauses so damn bad

Kesler
Miller

Value just drops when they are picking their spot and you get these shit returns

 

[iceburg]

When it was announced that Miller would be going on leave Tocchet addressed the media and said something like "he's been the best player I've had since I've been here". I recall thinking his body language and tone were a little strange, perhaps even defensive. It also seemed to be a strange thing to say given the circumstances. Why was it necessary to emphasize that point. Maybe he meant they were going to miss him while he was gone. But it seemed to be more than that, something like "I don't why this happened, we've always had a good relationship".
In hindsight, it's fits the narrative that there was a blow up between Miller and Tocchet. To be clear, I'm not saying it happened, just that it is consistent with Tocchet's demeanor.
I'm also quite prepared for posters to say I'm reading way too much into it. it's a fair criticism. But it was certainly my reaction at the time.

 

[arttk]

When it was announced that Miller would be going on leave Tocchet addressed the media and said something like "he's been the best player I've had since I've been here". I recall thinking his body language and tone were a little strange, perhaps even defensive. It also seemed to be a strange thing to say given the circumstances. Why was it necessary to emphasize that point. Maybe he meant they were going to miss him while he was gone. But it seemed to be more than that, something like "I don't why this happened, we've always had a good relationship".
In hindsight, it's fits the narrative that there was a blow up between Miller and Tocchet. To be clear, I'm not saying it happened, just that it is consistent with Tocchet's demeanor.
I'm also quite prepared for posters to say I'm reading way too much into it. it's a fair criticism. But it was certainly my reaction at the time.

I think it’s simple, if it was a nothing burger and management overreacted, then whatever Miller did would’ve been leaked by someone considering how many people knows about it apparently. Considering it still has not leaked out despite probably everyone in the league knowing about it illustrates one thing, players, coaches, management and journalists around the league don’t want it out there.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Miller another 2 points tonight. 14 points in 11 games.

I love that we traded away a superstar for peanuts.

Let's please not screw this up with Pete. I still believe in him.

Some people out here dying to recreate that trade lmao

 

[Bobby9]

 

[andora]

When it was announced that Miller would be going on leave Tocchet addressed the media and said something like "he's been the best player I've had since I've been here". I recall thinking his body language and tone were a little strange, perhaps even defensive. It also seemed to be a strange thing to say given the circumstances. Why was it necessary to emphasize that point. Maybe he meant they were going to miss him while he was gone. But it seemed to be more than that, something like "I don't why this happened, we've always had a good relationship".
In hindsight, it's fits the narrative that there was a blow up between Miller and Tocchet. To be clear, I'm not saying it happened, just that it is consistent with Tocchet's demeanor.
I'm also quite prepared for posters to say I'm reading way too much into it. it's a fair criticism. But it was certainly my reaction at the time.

I think it was more disappointed parent and defending him

I think it’s simple, if it was a nothing burger and management overreacted, then whatever Miller did would’ve been leaked by someone considering how many people knows about it apparently. Considering it still has not leaked out despite probably everyone in the league knowing about it illustrates one thing, players, coaches, management and journalists around the league don’t want it out there.

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