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[Mr. Canucklehead]

Season's over, new thread needed!

 

[BOBBY9]

JT Miller with a 40-40 season coming up

 

[LordBacon]

First big draft since the rebuild,
Cant wait to see how Aquilini f***s this up

 

[valkynax]

Pettersson with a 40-40 season coming up

Fix that for ya.

 

[Vector M2B Edition]

Go Canucks, go!

 

[timw33]

I am really happy that the Canes won in such a dominant fashion. Love seeing a differently built team win like that. Truly a group effort from top to bottom.

 

[Michael Dal Swolle]

JT Miller with a 40-40 season coming up

I think he's washed too, but 40 points and -40 seems like too pessimistic of a prediction IMO

 

[StreetHawk]

I am really happy that the Canes won in such a dominant fashion. Love seeing a differently built team win like that. Truly a group effort from top to bottom.

It does open up the conversation given how they did it.

Been a very good team for multiple seasons. 3 prior ECF finals, but beaten 12-1 in games.

1) Kept their philosophy of having many swings vs push all in.
2) Move off players from Hamilton, Ferland, Pesce, etc. that they don't feel will give them value throughout the contract term.
3) Sign kids early like Slavin, Pesce, Svech, Jarvis, Blake, etc.
4) Able to rehab or get players to perform better who were discarded or struggled with prior team, be it Ghost, Chatfield, Hall, Freddy, etc.
5) They don't go for big July 1 signings. Patient in their moves.

Does #1 change things for teams. Where you see Tor, Col, Dal, LV, Edm etc. move multiple firsts to try to win and get rentals or older players?

 

[Hit the post]

JT Miller with a 40-40 season coming up

40 minor penalties (unsportmanship minors & 40 2nd assists....

 

[Raistlin]

Glad this exhausting season finally over, the right team won after a lot of losing, which is something that I hope to remind myself in the coming decades. Please bring on the draft in 10 days, and we can finally gauge what this new management team is all about.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I think that comment Staal made about players jumping ship was probably more targeted towards Necas than anyone else.

 

[timw33]

I think that comment Staal made about players jumping ship was probably more targeted towards Necas than anyone else.

Well, Necas wanted to go somewhere to better his career by going somewhere his counting stats could flourish, and he got a 92MM contract out of it so I think Necas isn't really regretting anything at this point.

 

[ExarKun80]

What a bullshit decision to give a forward with 12 pts the Smythe. Chatfield was a more important player for Carolina than Staal in these playoffs and I'm not joking. A defender from Carolina should have won it if they did not want to give it to Marner who has like 30 pts.

 

[LemonSauceD]

What a bullshit decision to give a forward with 12 pts the Smythe. Chatfield was a more important player for Carolina than Staal in these playoffs and I'm not joking. A defender from Carolina should have won it if they did not want to give it to Marner who has like 30 pts.

They don’t win the cup without Staal’s finals performance and it’s not even a discussion.

 

[valkynax]

What a bullshit decision to give a forward with 12 pts the Smythe. Chatfield was a more important player for Carolina than Staal in these playoffs and I'm not joking. A defender from Carolina should have won it if they did not want to give it to Marner who has like 30 pts.

Staal's performance in the final stretch played a big part I think, he was the pillar (among a few others, that is) who held the line and pushed back when they needed it the most. And his veterancy would probably have something to do with his award as well.

Not a problem either way, the cup is what mattered for them the most.

 

[credulous]

taylor hall should have won the smythe but staal isn't undeserving

chatfield was awful in the finals, definitely didn't deserve it

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

wait hold on, that weird ron maclean apology last night was because earlier he had made a joke about roofies? in a game where carter hart is starting?

jesus

 

[StreetHawk]

Well, Necas wanted to go somewhere to better his career by going somewhere his counting stats could flourish, and he got a 92MM contract out of it so I think Necas isn't really regretting anything at this point.

$11.5 mill is what he got. What was Car offering? Did they match the $10 mill for Aho?

That would still be a difference of $12 mill.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

I think that comment Staal made about players jumping ship was probably more targeted towards Necas than anyone else.

it was in response to a question about his brother eric. watching it at the time, i was like, you are not shading your brother are you?

i'm sure he wasn't intending to but it was a weird left turn

i also didn't expect the SCF postgame to be even more of a godfest than the NBA finals postgame but here we are. slavin's comments were also a weird left turn. what does winning the cup mean to you? all glory to jesus. you also won the olympics. what a year right?

 

[vancityluongo]

It does open up the conversation given how they did it.

Been a very good team for multiple seasons. 3 prior ECF finals, but beaten 12-1 in games.

1) Kept their philosophy of having many swings vs push all in.
2) Move off players from Hamilton, Ferland, Pesce, etc. that they don't feel will give them value throughout the contract term.
3) Sign kids early like Slavin, Pesce, Svech, Jarvis, Blake, etc.
4) Able to rehab or get players to perform better who were discarded or struggled with prior team, be it Ghost, Chatfield, Hall, Freddy, etc.
5) They don't go for big July 1 signings. Patient in their moves.

Does #1 change things for teams. Where you see Tor, Col, Dal, LV, Edm etc. move multiple firsts to try to win and get rentals or older players?

carolina kind of won despite not pushing all-in. if they had won last year because brad marchand wanted to play there for example, we'd be pointing at that as *the* reason.

really they just have had an elite team for a long time, and i think probability and volatility has always shown that a long window is key, because anything can happen game over game, let alone year over year. that doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to maximize the chances of winning within the window.

 

[bossram]

What a bullshit decision to give a forward with 12 pts the Smythe. Chatfield was a more important player for Carolina than Staal in these playoffs and I'm not joking. A defender from Carolina should have won it if they did not want to give it to Marner who has like 30 pts.

u wot mate?

 

[Bleach Clean]

What a bullshit decision to give a forward with 12 pts the Smythe. Chatfield was a more important player for Carolina than Staal in these playoffs and I'm not joking. A defender from Carolina should have won it if they did not want to give it to Marner who has like 30 pts.

I agree that Marner was the most deserving, but Chatfield being more important than Staal is counter-intuitive. Why do you think this?

 

[AwesomeInTheory]

wait hold on, that weird ron maclean apology last night was because earlier he had made a joke about roofies? in a game where carter hart is starting?

jesus

I will forever hate Canadian hockey fans for essentially bringing back Ron Maclean because Strombo was different.

A Strombo panel with Bieksa et al. would be pretty neat, IMO. Just go away, Ron. No one likes you, your stupid attempts at gravitas/poetry, or your forever handwaving away shite officiating.

 

[Raistlin]

I didnt know roofies jokes were frowned upon.... well this definitely saved me a trip to HR. Sensibilities shift so quickly nowadays....my daughter has to constantly remind me what offends her. He apologized, move on....

 

[krutovsdonut]

wait hold on, that weird ron maclean apology last night was because earlier he had made a joke about roofies? in a game where carter hart is starting?

jesus

what do roofies have to do with carter hart?