The flames are also 25W 16L in games when being outshot. Somebody explain that. Its VERY uncharacteristic for a team of plumbers to manage that type of feat. Usually its the handiwork of teams that can throw world class players out on the ice and still outscore teams when they are outworked. The Flames are somehow defying this conventional wisdom.
Finally, the Flames are 5th in the league in scoring. Take a long hard look at their lineup, particularly their forward lineup, and explain to me how this team has scored more goals than 25 teams. This is one of the most ordinary forward lineups in the league
Monahan for draft position has to be considered a pretty huge pleasant surprise. Goal scoring is king imo and I have a lot of respect for the player. But to be putting up 30something goal season in the NHL in todays dead puck era is quite astounding.
With all due respect nobody but a Flames fan would think Gaudreau would have this type of year. Typically such a player wouldn't knock it out of the park in his first year. The kind of stats he's putting up suggest dominant star player. Suggests #1 draft....
Gotta admit I like watching the kid. How could one not? Flames fans got a right to be overjoyed with his play. That he's bringing it on both ends as well is simply amazing.
Don't appreciate you labeling silly to any posts that don't agree with your own. Particularly because I have no difficulty defending the positions I've stated and will continue to do so. I'll remind you what board you're posting on if you want to be dismissive about it.
Theres nothing silly about the players listed and its in response to you wanting clarification. You also didn't note my wording "Every one of these players have had the best NHL year yet and/or more than could reasonably be expected " thus outlining what I meant and which applies then to the list of players.
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Sorry - it's absolutely silly to call a rookie's season a "career year". Did Leon Draisaitl have a career year this year? Darnell Nurse? You have simply used an incorrect definition of career year, with the result that your conclusion is flawed. GIGO.
Just with regards to your statement that "With all due respect nobody but a Flames fan would think Gaudreau would have this type of year."
This was a Boston fan who follows Boston college hockey prior to the season:
A Philadelphia fan who had watched Gaudreau long before he was drafted :
So I reiterate that it was the people who had watched him play that were suggesting he would have the season he is having. Let's say Flames fans hoped he would get 60 points and his College fans thought he would.
and then:
In the majority of your incessant downplaying of the Flames, they're a lucky group of "plumbers" with no business scoring as much as they do.
Speaking from one side of your mouth, you seem completely unaware / ignorant of the fact they have an *elite* top line this year. Gaudreau-Monahan-Hudler is up there with any other line in the league over the season, and the fact they were grouped into your "plumbers" / "most ordinary forwards" is laughable.
I get that it's easier for you to believe they'll all regress next year, but the fact of the matter is, Monahan and Guadreau are excellent young players who are only going to get better with more NHL experience. Sure, they might see their production slip for a period, but no one in their right mind would suggest they aren't going to get better as they mature.
Then, there's the matter of the Flames yet to add one of the best 18 year olds on the planet to their lineup.
Your anger is just way, way over the top in what it's driven you to force yourself into believing and ranting about.
Sorry - it's absolutely silly to call a rookie's season a "career year". Did Leon Draisaitl have a career year this year? Darnell Nurse? You have simply used an incorrect definition of career year, with the result that your conclusion is flawed. GIGO.
That Buff cross check is one of the most viciously dangerous plays I've seen. Not only could be have ended Millers career, he could have ruined his life. Miller was defenceless, vulnerable and so removed from the play that no one can justify that was a "hockey play."
I don't see how anyone can defend or justify that.
A couple fans saying something really doesn't tell us much. As to the statement "only a Calgary fan would say" its obvious a tongue in cheek generalization that I hadn't intended anybody to take entirely literally. A playful comment. You don't need to disprove it.
Glad somebody is speaking out about this. Really this kind of play should merit a suspension for rest of season and playoffs. What on Earth was Buff thinking? Despicable play.
I have no idea how that wasn't a major penalty on ice and how it wasn't an immediate game misconduct. Oh well, just deserts occurred later as Buff was beaten wide on the winning goal.
Throw the book at him.
As for the Flames having an elite line if you stated that on ANY NHL board but Calgary I wonder what the response to that statement would be.
That line has been consistantly together since January, and has put up:
Monahan: 18G, 15A, 33P
Gaudreau.: 9G, 20A, 29P
Hudler....: 16G, 17A, 33P (34 games)
Total......: 42G, 53A, 95P
This month in particular, it's the best line in the league and it's not close:
http://www.si.com/nhl/2015/03/31/ca...hnny-hockey-gaudreau-sean-monahan-jiri-hudler
"Since the beginning of March, the combination of Gaudreau, Monahan and Hudler has torched opposing goalies for 25 goals and 55 points. No other line comes close."
So putting the question about that line being an elite one to the rest of the league should be elementary, considering they don't have your rage-induced spite-denial.
It's really quite simple: You act bewildered and say there is no plausible reason for the Flames success when indeed their is. They are driven by an elite top line (as most good teams are) that consists of 2/3rds emerging young talent.
You can sit here all day and tell me Monahan and Gaudreau won't improve from here (as is your agenda and something you need to tell yourself to quell the rage) but that's a question that could also be posed to the rest of league and I'm sure you'd find a minority agreeing with you that this will be their peak season.
All one needs to do is simply watch them, and it's immediately obvious they are young star players in the making. They will get better, because they're great players that are going to fill out and mature physically and take away the experience from playing at this level.
You need to take a chill pill and come to grips with the fact that whether the Flames regress as a team in points next season, they have a great group of young talent that is only going to get better.
And if you said you expected it at the beginning of the season, you would have been called a homer, and rightly so.
And if you said you expected it at the beginning of the season, you would have been called a homer, and rightly so.
Now this is getting silly. This is the statement by me that you responded to;
"EVERY one of these players have had the best NHL year yet and/or more than could reasonably be expected in cases of rooks like Gaudreau."
Do you see the and/or clause? Do you follow how that effects the connotation of the sentence. Do I have to spell it out? Gaudreau and Monahan would be examples of "more than could reasonably be expected which I even stated in the sentence.
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And if you said you expected it at the beginning of the season, you would have been called a homer, and rightly so.
What does this have to do with anything?
The comments were specifically about Replacment's spite filled rants *now*. He's acting dumbfounded claiming that there is no explanation for how well the Flames are doing when having one of the best top lines in the league this season is the reason that is seemingly alluding him.
It's not a forward rank of "Ordinary plumbers". It's one of the best top lines in the league this year with several young players adding scoring depth behind it.
It's also one of the better, more mobile top four defenses in the league (Gio's injury not withstanding).
When you take those two vital elements and add the structure, buy-in, work ethic and stable albeit average goaltending... you get an improved, highly motivated young team on the rise.
I get this is an Oiler specific forum, but Replancement's daily, long winded head-in-the-sand spite-rants are getting to be a bit much. It's really not that complicated or mind-blowing.
What does this have to do with anything?
The comments were specifically about Replacment's spite filled rants *now*. He's acting dumbfounded claiming that there is no explanation for how well the Flames are doing when having one of the best top lines in the league this season is the reason that is seemingly alluding him.
It's not a forward rank of "Ordinary plumbers". It's one of the best top lines in the league this year with several young players adding scoring depth behind it.
It's also one of the better, more mobile top four defenses in the league (Gio's injury not withstanding).
When you take those two vital elements and add the structure, buy-in, work ethic and stable albeit average goaltending... you get an improved, highly motivated young team on the rise.
I get this is an Oiler specific forum, but Replancement's daily, long winded head-in-the-sand spite-rants are getting to be a bit much. It's really not that complicated or mind-blowing.
Wait? What? A flames fan is posting on an Oilers board and telling us what we should or should not say?
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