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Almost exactly what I came to post

we're here bickering over how the Kings are bleeding out offensive assets because they don't know what the f*** they're doing to the extent that Kaliyev is a relatively hot-button issue, and the Kings were so high on their own supply they wouldn't trade guys like Roy, Walker, etc. despite their heir apparents being behind them AND dips in their play

This, right here, is the difference between the real contenders and the f***ing incompetents in LA.
 
Almost exactly what I came to post

we're here bickering over how the Kings are bleeding out offensive assets because they don't know what the f*** they're doing to the extent that Kaliyev is a relatively hot-button issue, and the Kings were so high on their own supply they wouldn't trade guys like Roy, Walker, etc. despite their heir apparents being behind them AND dips in their play

This, right here, is the difference between the real contenders and the f***ing incompetents in LA.
Starts with pretending you're a contender... cant lose Roy because we'll be needing him in the SCF
 
Wow I didn’t know that COL and LAK were equals. How interesting.
No man, its just some teams try to maximize value based on reality and some dont... its actually a similar situation, you have a pending FA that you know you cant/wont re-sign - and so you try to squeeze value from it vs let it expire into nothing.
 
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Wow I didn’t know that COL and LAK were equals. How interesting.
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No man, its just some teams try to maximize value based on reality and some dont... its actually a similar situation, you have a pending FA that you know you cant/wont re-sign - and so you try to squeeze value from it vs let it expire into nothing.
Why don’t you guys just admit you are here to harp on any negative ounce you can squeeze from the team….they do NOTHING right……f***ing NOTHING.

Had they traded Roy, you would have bitched about that….no doubt.

The only point here is that you think you have a point….when you don’t.
 
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Why don’t you guys just admit you are here to harp on any negative ounce you can squeeze from the team….they do NOTHING right……f***ing NOTHING.

Had they traded Roy, you would have bitched about that….no doubt.


The only point here is that you think you have a point….when you don’t.
Jeez man you seem upset.. We are just shooting the shit. I dont think they are doing things right. I felt this way when DL hired Crawford. When they extended Cloutier. Im like what the f*** is DL doing.. does he owe people in Vancouver some favors? The Hickey pick.. we were all up in arms. Then he declares and official rebuild and after getting DD I started to believe. We have not come close to having a moment with Blakes tenure where I felt things were going the in the right direction.. 1 step fwd, 2 steps back. The dude is not a good GM. DL got fired in SJ -went back to scouting and became a better GM. Blake I dont think will ever be good.
 
Jeez man you seem upset.. We are just shooting the shit. I dont think they are doing things right. I felt this way when DL hired Crawford. When they extended Cloutier. Im like what the f*** is DL doing.. does he owe people in Vancouver some favors? The Hickey pick.. we were all up in arms. Then he declares and official rebuild and after getting DD I started to believe. We have not come close to having a moment with Blakes tenure where I felt things were going the in the right direction.. 1 step fwd, 2 steps back. The dude is not a good GM. DL got fired in SJ -went back to scouting and became a better GM. Blake I dont think will ever be good.
lol, Kings are having the best season in 10+ years….i have no more words except it’s pretty pathetic you guys find nothing in that.
 
You think hell do it differently this year and trade Gavrikov to free up space or get equal assets?
I dont have a feel for it. You wonder what Gavrikov is thinking - does he want to sign a long term deal with this org? Taxes are high there and the team has spent its draft capital and is capped out. If I were him, I'd bail.
 
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lol, Kings are having the best season in 10+ years….i have no more words except it’s pretty pathetic you guys find nothing in that.
I thought the win last night was pretty impressive in terms of beating a really good team. I dont look at the record, I look at the potential for winning the cup and if the team is improving and solving their problems as the season goes on. The big fault with this team is the power play - they will not win a round with the 29th ranked PP. Last season 0/16 on the PP vs EDM in the playoffs. Thats why Im not that excited about the record.
 
I thought the win last night was pretty impressive in terms of beating a really good team. I dont look at the record, I look at the potential for winning the cup and if the team is improving and solving their problems as the season goes on. The big fault with this team is the power play - they will not win a round with the 29th ranked PP. Last season 0/16 on the PP vs EDM in the playoffs. Thats why Im not that excited about the record.
Well EDM has the best PP in 100 centuries and they can’t win the cup either. You are making great points.
 
I don't want a 23 year-old playing like he's still 18 just like I don't want Axl to post like he's 12.

You cut bait and move on when people don't grow up.

I was rooting for Kaliyev and was with you when the org mishandled him, which I think they did. I just also think it's important to acknowledge Kaliyev didn't do himself any favors.
It’s Blake’s job to know when to cut bait before it costs him the prize. It’s literally what he’s paid to do, and he’s a f***ing failure at it.

I’m not mad that Kaliyev is gone, I’m mad that he’s gone for nothing after Blake f***ed himself in his own stupid ass.


But wHo dOeS that??????
 
Well EDM has the best PP in 100 centuries and they can’t win the cup either. You are making great points.
They only spent 3M on both goalies. They went to game 7 in the SCF.. so even with Skinner, they still almost got it done. My point is that you need a top 1/3 PP for the playoffs because 5x5 is so tight a lot of times its a draw and you win or lose on special teams. If you cant capitalize on your PP you have to play an almost perfect game 5x5 and PK.
 
They only spent 3M on both goalies. They went to game 7 in the SCF.. so even with Skinner, they still almost got it done. My point is that you need a top 1/3 PP for the playoffs because 5x5 is so tight a lot of times its a draw and you win or lose on special teams. If you cant capitalize on your PP you have to play an almost perfect game 5x5 and PK.
Kings had top 3 PK last season (I think, haven’t confirmed)…that didn’t seem to help, did it?
 
The Roy debacle last year really f***ing pissed me off, its obvious you move him at that time. Its not like he didn't have value either, look how well he's playing on the Caps this year, yet another ex-King thriving elsewhere. Problem is I doubt Blake could've gotten a good return for him, he's prone to getting fleeced.
 
We all have been over this before.. but losing Kaliyev, JAD, Bjornfot to waivers are big fails in terms of getting value for high picks. They didnt get good value out of Vilardi who is close to PPG now. Turcotte and Byfield are far from what you'd expect for a 5 and 2. Has Blake really won any trades in 10 years? Def lost more than won.

Losing JAD are big fails.....because he's no longer in the league?

Bjornfoot is playing 7th Dman....and Kaliyev is playing the same role in NYR than he did in LA.

But let's go from there....so you think those are big fails in regard to high value picks, then, players like Spence, Andersson, Moverare, Roy, Laferriere, all exceeded value by a ton.....some in the same drafts, (Spence vs Kaliyev, Bjornfoot) Anderson vs JAD etc...

pretty insane they traded him, either thought they couldn't re-sign him or his cap hit would be too high for them to be competitive.

They spread out the wealth with that trade, stopped being top heavy.....they gotta pray Necas can keep this up tough that's for sure.
 
I don't think this supports the side of the argument you think it does.

Sure it does, if you think Roy was going to return 2 young top 6 players, or 1 young top 4 D, and a draft pick..then sure....

But he wasn't returning a player/players that could still help them in the playoffs...This trade for COL 100% does that, tell me how this is the same....
 
Sure it does, if you think Roy was going to return 2 young top 6 players, or 1 young top 4 D, and a draft pick..then sure....

But he wasn't returning a player/players that could still help them in the playoffs...This trade for COL 100% does that, tell me how this is the same....
You don't get it.

And you're strawmaning the original argument as usual.
 

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