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A gut wrenching thought is JQ never wouldve been dealt had Peterseive been even average. I think JQ was mentally checked into the backup role and was shitty no excuse there. But because Peterson was absolute dogshit, Blake got desperate. Just another in a string of gut punches from his tenure as Gee "what am i doing" Emm.
It wasn't until he accepted the back up role and finally changed his playing style was he able to carry on his career in NYC. He was pretty much cooked here, and just a swimming mess in the crease. Really happy he's doing well with the Rangers.
 
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It wasn't until he accepted the back up role and finally changed his playing style was he able to carry on his career in NYC. He was pretty much cooked here, and just a swimming mess in the crease. Really happy he's doing well with the Rangers.
That’s how I see it, he just needed a change of scene and perspective. It happens all the time in all sports, so I don’t see this particular one as being an issue related to the current regime.
 

chris kontos

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That’s how I see it, he just needed a change of scene and perspective. It happens all the time in all sports, so I don’t see this particular one as being an issue related to the current regime
there is no objective measurement for how the stanley cup 2X winning goaltender was treated by the current regime upon his trade to the current siberia of the nhl.
he was not given the respect he deserved as a great champion. who does the responsibility for that rest with ?

I love that Quick gets to do all this on the East Coast and force the haters to eat crow

Double bonus that certain Rangers fans have to enjoy it
i love to watch how uncomfortable queen henrik gets on tv when quick gets another win
 

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A gut wrenching thought is JQ never wouldve been dealt had Peterseive been even average. I think JQ was mentally checked into the backup role and was shitty no excuse there. But because Peterson was absolute dogshit, Blake got desperate. Just another in a string of gut punches from his tenure as Gee "what am i doing" Emm.

Quick was never once treated as the backup in LA. Even when Cal was playing his best hockey, he was very much treated as a 1B at best, and key starts would be given to Quick over him.

I still suspect that was part of what led to Cal's decline and mental issues.
 
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there is no objective measurement for how the stanley cup 2X winning goaltender was treated by the current regime upon his trade to the current siberia of the nhl.
he was not given the respect he deserved as a great champion. who does the responsibility for that rest with ?
Separate issue… I’m talking about his play.

However being business about it I personally have no issue with trading him. I also don’t think there is a need to tell him in advance.

So much depends on how quickly the deal comes together, the confidentiality required by the other team. It’s not as simple as saying ‘he won two cups’. There are too many moving parts to objectively judge it.
 

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Separate issue… I’m talking about his play.

However being business about it I personally have no issue with trading him. I also don’t think there is a need to tell him in advance.

So much depends on how quickly the deal comes together, the confidentiality required by the other team. It’s not as simple as saying ‘he won two cups’. There are too many moving parts to objectively judge it.
It damn sure cant be quantified
 

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Quick was never once treated as the backup in LA. Even when Cal was playing his best hockey, he was very much treated as a 1B at best, and key starts would be given to Quick over him.

I still suspect that was part of what led to Cal's decline and mental issues.
The point is, If Blake's heir apparent had been even decent, JQ probably still around.. agree or disagree?
 

AbsentMojo

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Disagree.

Quick wasn't ready to give up the spot and I am fairly confident that the Cup core weren't going to let it happen.
The way I see it playing out hypothetically is if Cal had won some games and kept his save pct about say .905 or above, he'd be getting the majority of the starts, and JQ's decline would make it easy for the coach to keep staring Cal... that would prevent the scenario where both goalies are terrible and make Blake less inclined to pick up a goalie at the deadline.
 

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The way I see it playing out hypothetically is if Cal had won some games and kept his save pct about say .905 or above, he'd be getting the majority of the starts, and JQ's decline would make it easy for the coach to keep staring Cal... that would prevent the scenario where both goalies are terrible and make Blake less inclined to pick up a goalie at the deadline.

The problem is Quick was never not going to be treated as THE guy here even hypothetically. Even when he was struggling, Todd kept going back to him and relying on him.

Here's an example, March 6th, and 7th. Cal starts back to back nights and plays well. Given up 2 goals in 2 games. Guess who gets the start in that March 10th 4-3 loss? Quick. Cal was never going to be treated as the guy. Not even hypothetically.

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The problem is Quick was never not going to be treated as THE guy here even hypothetically. Even when he was struggling, Todd kept going back to him and relying on him.

Here's an example, March 6th, and 7th. Cal starts back to back nights and plays well. Given up 2 goals in 2 games. Guess who gets the start in that March 10th 4-3 loss? Quick. Cal was never going to be treated as the guy. Not even hypothetically.

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So you are making the case (albeit w slim evidence) that Blake did a Billy Bean and moved JQ so Todd would not play him anymore?
 
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