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Jojalu said:
I am seriously starting to worry that if Carolina gets swept, the brass will convince themselves that they are pretty close.

Huberdeau also got replaced with 100 point Tkachuk. No one on the market is capable of that.
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If they were not completely embarrassed in games 5 and 7 on home ice, maybe. The way I see it, the Panthers did not take the Leafs as seriously as the Canes because they knew once they took it to the Leafs, the core would implode. The Canes are battling tooth and nail but the Panthers are just relentless. Freddie is not helping and this is not the same Bob who started games 1 and 2 vs the Leafs.

Tkachuk was indeed a 100 point player when they traded for him but he is trending to a PPG player the last two seasons. I'm not worried about replacing Mitch's 25 goals and 75 assists.
 
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ToneDog said:
If they were not completely embarrassed in games 5 and 7 on home ice, maybe. The way I see it, the Panthers did not take the Leafs as seriously as the Canes because they knew once they took it to the Leafs, the core would implode. The Canes are battling tooth and nail but the Panthers are just relentless. Freddie is not helping and this is not the Bob who started games 1 and 2 vs the Leafs.

Tkachuk was indeed a 100 point player when they traded for him but he is trending to a PPG player the last two seasons. I'm not worried about replacing Mitch's 25 goals and 75 assists.
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It is sad to think about how awful game 5 and 7 were.

If not for the previous 8 years of not showing up, I would have a little more forgiveness. Florida is truly a juggernaut and you can expect them to steamroll a game or 2 here and there, but Game 7 was such an embarassment.
 
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Jojalu said:
It is sad to think about how awful game 5 and 7 were.

If not for the previous 8 years of not showing up, I would have a little more forgiveness. Florida is truly a juggernaut and you can expect them to steamroll a game or 2 here and there, but Game 7 was such an embarassment.
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They all but repeated what they did in the CBJ series. Win a big game to tie the series and then fail to show up for the winner take all game. Getting out chanced 21-0 to start a game #7 is more than enough to force the team to go in a different direction (like I have said before, Leafs management will only act when they are completely embarrassed). I get losing Marner will be hard, but he's had 9 years to show something in the playoffs and he has failed miserably the last 6 years. I think he peaked when he blocked those Pastrnak slapshots in what seems another lifetime.
 
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TheTotalPackage said:
Almost seems fake that a team/franchise can be halfway to the point of being swept in FOUR straight conference finals. Like...how is that even possible?! o_O
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That's how weak the Metro is, and how dominate the Atlantic has become.

Between Bos, Fla and TB. The Leafs are the Jets of the 80's. Good. Not good enough
 
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Aashir said:
bennett's type of play isn't sustainable into the mid 30s

he's a beast, and a high end 2C considering all the intangibles and physicality he brings, but idk if a 32-33 year old bennett's body will be able to keep up

also it is pretty funny that tre is the one who traded them both LOL
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Yeah, players like Wendel do wear out quicker.

Last 4 years of his 7-8 contract mightn't be beneficial to both parties.
 
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Jojalu said:
I am seriously starting to worry that if Carolina gets swept, the brass will convince themselves that they are pretty close.

Huberdeau also got replaced with 100 point Tkachuk. No one on the market is capable of that.
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It's already started with fans, look at the amount on here convincing themselves Leafs would've rolled Carolina. Maybe, maybe not. But it's very possible the Leafs would've puked all over themselves regardless the quality of their competition. Because history shows us that's what this core does.
 
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Kurtz said:
I think we're definitely not cheating enough. Shanahan and Dubas were boyscouts. All the best teams have been cheating the cap in big ways for years. (This year alone, Florida with Tkachuk LTIR, Edmonton with Kane, Colorado with Landeskog).
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Not even just those players who magically get healthy G1 R1..... Do you think the Seth Jones trade happens if Tkachuk is on the cap.
 
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ToneDog said:
How did the Panthers do replacing Huberdeau's 120 points? Add two solid players and you will be fine. You will also be better off come playoff time without Mitch Kerfoot.
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unfortunately we don't have a brad treliving to trade to

I'd love to do Marner signed + Rielly for some 25 year old RFA but I don't think we will get that lucky

gonna need to find good FA players, which is always really tough.
 
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Jojalu said:
I am seriously starting to worry that if Carolina gets swept, the brass will convince themselves that they are pretty close.

Huberdeau also got replaced with 100 point Tkachuk. No one on the market is capable of that.
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the way they need to look at this is how the core found another way to blow an easy opportunity, as it's in their dna. Carolina are as big or bigger frauds than us, so we'd have to beat 1 real contender to make the finals and we failed horribly. You cannot look past how badly game 5 and game 7 were, hell even game 4. We were up 2-0 in the series, we were up 3-1 in game 3 and yet we lost. You don't run it back, you accept they failed again and turn the page on this awful chapter.

TheShape said:
It's already started with fans, look at the amount on here convincing themselves Leafs would've rolled Carolina. Maybe, maybe not. But it's very possible the Leafs would've puked all over themselves regardless the quality of their competition. Because history shows us that's what this core does.
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It's not convincing, we would have. Carolina is an awful team that benefits from playing other horrible teams. They rarely acquire the pieces they need, and when they do it blows up in their faces.
The core had as easy of a path to the finals this year as they did in 2021 and they blew it again. It was a complete failure by the players (core 4) that we couldn't make the ECF and benefit from playing the always weak Metro playoff winner. A benefit that Boston, Florida, and Tampa have gotten because they earned it through winning the atlantic bracket.
 
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last year Canes got swept and Rod the bod made a statement in the media that canes did not get swept

its 2-0 florida now i wonder what rod the bod would say this year LMAO :biglaugh:
 
ToneDog said:
The same guy you spent the day trashing yesterday. 88 and 57 the next two years but it is what he does in the playoffs that makes him valuable and Mitch not so much.
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to be totally fair to you he didnt have that type of scoring in Calgary he just kind of exploded for 2 seasons after QUITTING on his team in Calgary like a quitter
 
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ToneDog said:
If they were not completely embarrassed in games 5 and 7 on home ice, maybe. The way I see it, the Panthers did not take the Leafs as seriously as the Canes because they knew once they took it to the Leafs, the core would implode. The Canes are battling tooth and nail but the Panthers are just relentless. Freddie is not helping and this is not the same Bob who started games 1 and 2 vs the Leafs.

Tkachuk was indeed a 100 point player when they traded for him but he is trending to a PPG player the last two seasons. I'm not worried about replacing Mitch's 25 goals and 75 assists.
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I really don’t get the losing a 100pts player narrative.
AM didn’t score 69 goals this past season and only scored 33goals. That’s a drop of 36 goals or like 15% drop in goals scored by the team and yet Leafs still made the playoffs and won the division. How the F can that ever happen? As Leafs didn’t even sign or trade to fill in for AM during the season.
 
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Gabriel426 said:
I really don’t get the losing a 100pts player narrative.
AM didn’t score 69 goals this past season and only scored 33goals. That’s a drop of 36 goals or like 15% drop in goals scored by the team and yet Leafs still made the playoffs and won the division. How the F can that ever happen? As Leafs didn’t even sign or trade to fill in for AM during the season.
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The goals are the issue. Odds are Mitch scores fewer and fewer goals going forward. This 26 regular season goal scorer scored two goals on 16 shots in 13 playoff games. 12+ pace. Tied with OEL, 8th on the team. 8th!!! Let that sink in.

Marner in games 4-7. One lousy assist on a nice snap shot by 34 that Bob probably wants back.

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How pathetic do you have to be to have 3 SOG in games 4-7 (103 shifts) averaging 20+ minutes/game?
 
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TheShape said:
It's already started with fans, look at the amount on here convincing themselves Leafs would've rolled Carolina. Maybe, maybe not. But it's very possible the Leafs would've puked all over themselves regardless the quality of their competition. Because history shows us that's what this core does.
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I mentioned this a few days ago.

Any teams that made the playoffs this season would had beaten us with the way we played in Game 5 against both the Sens and Panthers as well as Game 7 against the Panthers.

Panthers are beating the Canes now but Leafs lost to the Panthers in Game 5 and 7 at home.

Not saying Leafs would had beaten Panthers if they played like they did in Game 6, but Leafs esp the top guys didn’t show up in Game 5 and 7 and just made it easy for the Panthers.
 
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ToneDog said:
The goals are the issue. Odds are Mitch scores fewer and fewer goals going forward. This 26 regular season goal scorer scored two goals on 16 shots in 13 playoff games. 12+ pace. Tied with OEL, 8th on the team. 8th!!! Let that sink in.

Marner in games 4-7. One lousy assist on a nice snap shot by 34 that Bob probably wants back.

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How pathetic do you have to be to have 3 SOG in games 4-7 averaging 20 minutes/game?
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Exactly, that’s why I don’t get why MM fanboys are keep saying you can’t replace a 100pt scorer.

Leafs replaced the rocket winner with 69 goals with someone who scored 33goals and managed to win the division and won a round in the playoffs.

Which means Leafs can probably replace MM and his 100pts with someone that get 50 pts and at least be as good if not better
 
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Gabriel426 said:
Exactly, that’s why I don’t get why MM fanboys are keep saying you can’t replace a 100pt scorer.

Leafs replaced the rocket winner with 69 goals with someone who scored 33goals and managed to win the division and won a round in the playoffs.

Which means Leafs can probably replace MM and his 100pts with someone that get 50 pts and at least be as good if not better
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What you lose in the regular season you will gain in the playoffs in spades. Mitch is a Alex Kerfoot in the playoffs, worse the deeper a series goes.
 
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