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Notes, etc from the GM's meeting yesterday

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...ans-rear-their-ugly-head-gms-meetings-toronto

GM's worrying on other teams doing back door deals with McPhee int he 48 hour window pre draft
Daly citing that violators of the expansion rules will forgo their first round pick.

Also some thoughts on head shots, they showed the video of Kadri's head shot on Sedin from last week and asked GM's if they felt it was a penalty, 15 said yes, 15 said no. Also some disagreement on the language in Rule 48 (head shot).

And a proposal that the shootout rules be changed to mirror international rules, that you can use the same shooters again.
I hate shootouts and IMO would make them worse. What they should do is 3 pts for Reg win, 2 for OT win and 0 for OT loss.
You should not be rewarded for losing.


Also

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 18h18 hours ago

NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly says the league and NHLPA have finalized the protected list of players for expansion draft (con't)

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 18h18 hours ago

These are mostly players with full no-move clauses. I believe this list contains between 65-70 players





Alex Prewitt Verified account
‏@alex_prewitt

Owner Bill Foley: Vegas hopes to "accelerate" final expansion payment to March 1, to start recruiting college free agents ASAP.
 
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Tom Gulitti
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Werenski, 19, has five goals and eight assists for 13 points in his first 14 NHL games.


Going under the radar a bit due to the other rookies getting ink but I've seen a few BJ games and he's very good, very impressive.

I watched a lot of the BJ/Caps game last night, Good game and glad to see the BJ's get the Win in OT.


And Patrick Laine is the real deal, 12 goals and 17 pts so far...
 
deeshamrock said:
Tom Gulitti
‏@TomGulittiNHL

Werenski, 19, has five goals and eight assists for 13 points in his first 14 NHL games.


Going under the radar a bit due to the other rookies getting ink but I've seen a few BJ games and he's very good, very impressive.

I watched a lot of the BJ/Caps game last night, Good game and glad to see the BJ's get the Win in OT.


And Patrick Laine is the real deal, 12 goals and 17 pts so far...
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I'm stoked that all the young talent in the league is coming up big. Changing of the guard over the next year or two. It's crazy. And yeah, I started thinking Werenski was something else in the AHL playoffs, knew he'd be something, just didn't think it would be this quickly. I don't say this lightly, but he seems to think the game like Lidstrom.
 
Gino Reda ‏@GinoRedaTSN 22h22 hours ago

@IIHFHockey Pres Rene Fasel told me he has found the money(aprox 10mil) to cover NHL players travel & insurance costs for Olympics, however
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@IIHFHockey That may not be enough to convince NHL to participate. NHL doesn't want to take money from other hockey development programs


Must be nice to 'find' 10 Million dollars...that must be one big sofa cushion they looked under.
And still not enough...
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I'm stoked that all the young talent in the league is coming up big. Changing of the guard over the next year or two. It's crazy. And yeah, I started thinking Werenski was something else in the AHL playoffs, knew he'd be something, just didn't think it would be this quickly. I don't say this lightly, but he seems to think the game like Lidstrom.
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That's an excellent comparison. He's seems very fluid, sure of his situation, uncannily calm for a 19 yr old.
And he's the player Werenski models his game after,
https://www.michigandaily.com/secti...n-werenski-models-game-after-nicklas-lidstrom

“(Werenski is) one of the smarter defensive players,” said Michigan coach Red Berenson. “He’s a little bit like Lidstrom was with Detroit. … He’s got a really smart stick. Physically, he gets involved if he has to, but his first choice is to play the puck and to play his position well.
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the 'smart stick' is what I've seen too.


BJ's have a nice trio of youthful d in Jones, Murray and Werenski.
They really pushed the Caps last night. Wouldn't be surprised if they made the playoffs, esp if the Isles continue to sink

And I love the skill of this year's rookies. It's amazing how well they play, how well they are coached in Juniors and prepared they seem to be. Not like the old days.

Speaking of outstanding rookies, Marner 16 pts so far (3 pts again last night; the JVR/Marner/Bosak line has 10 pt in the 6-2 win over Preds) is amazing. I love watching him play.

HIgh praise for Babss, 'never coached a kid that good that young.."

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2016...ive-never-coached-a-kid-that-good-that-young/.

And again, the Preds with an open gate behind the net and in hte crease, any player welcome...without Weber there.
 
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deeshamrock said:
And a proposal that the shootout rules be changed to mirror international rules, that you can use the same shooters again.
I hate shootouts and IMO would make them worse. What they should do is 3 pts for Reg win, 2 for OT win and 0 for OT loss. You should not be rewarded for losing.
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Teams already get 0 points for losing in OT.

OT today is almost a separate event today. What happens at the 60 minute mark now is what used to happen at the 65 minute mark. Teams are tied, they split 2 points. You get an extra point in the standings if you win after regulation, when they now take 4 players off the ice, and there's a breakaway contest.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
Teams already get 0 points for losing in OT.

OT today is almost a separate event today. What happens at the 60 minute mark now is what used to happen at the 65 minute mark. Teams are tied, they split 2 points. You get an extra point in the standings if you win after regulation, when they now take 4 players off the ice, and there's a breakaway contest.
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I didn't put that right, I don't agree with the losing team getting a point. I've seen too many teams quitting in the 3rd, content to go to OT and get that point.
shootout- A skills competition shouldn't decide a game.

I would rather have 3 pts for reg win, 2 for OT win and 0 for an 0T loss. The team that wins in OT gets all the points, no loser points.
 
deeshamrock said:
I didn't put that right, I don't agree with the losing team getting a point. I've seen too many teams quitting in the 3rd, content to go to OT and get that point.
shootout- A skills competition shouldn't decide a game.

I would rather have 3 pts for reg win, 2 for OT win and 0 for an 0T loss. The team that wins in OT gets all the points, no loser points.
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I don't see the league doing that as long as OT is less than 5v5. For the same reason you have; a skills competition shouldn't decide a game. Why punish a team that managed to be tied after a 60 minute sample size, playing under the normal rules? Make regulation wins 3 points, that's fine, but they're not going to not give a team that tied during the bulk of play 0 points. I could be talked into seeing them doing 3 points for a reg win, and teams split 2 points if tied after 60, and the winning team in OT gets that 3rd point of the game.

Other than a loss in regulation, or OT going back to 5v5 with no shootout, they're not going to say 0 points for losing at any time. At that point, you might as well just go straight W/L, and forget the point system altogether. Which could work, although maybe not logistically, because players only get 1 goal per shot, and teams are traveling every day. It's great in the playoffs, not so much in December or February.
 


Hall back in NJ for tests and will likely miss the California portion of this road trip. Mike Cammalleri has been out for personal reasons. John Hynes mentioned there was a chance Cammalleri could rejoin the team on the road trip.
 
How to I search my posts? Cause I said Werenski would be te top d-man taken in the draft a head of Provorov.

One could say even a broke clock is right twice a day but still.
 
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Hall back in NJ for tests and will likely miss the California portion of this road trip. Mike Cammalleri has been out for personal reasons. John Hynes mentioned there was a chance Cammalleri could rejoin the team on the road trip.
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Cammy would be good for a hat trick
 
Allan Walsh ‏@walsha 2h2 hours ago

Several players I've talked to said if they're selected to respective Olympic teams, they're going no matter what NHL says.


So if the NHL elects not to go, So those players are on their own as far as paying for hotels, etc but what about insurance? If they get hurt, then they forgo their salary until they can play again? And for the games they miss as it will be during the season?
 
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deeshamrock said:
Allan Walsh ‏@walsha 2h2 hours ago

Several players I've talked to said if they're selected to respective Olympic teams, they're going no matter what NHL says.


So if the NHL elects not to go, So those players are on their own as far as paying for hotels, etc but what about insurance? If they get hurt, then they forgo their salary until they can play again? And for the games they miss as it will be during the season?
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Didn't Fasel say this morning he 'found' 10m to support it? I assume the insurance would come out of that a bit.

But good on the players to talk about how important this is to them.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Didn't Fasel say this morning he 'found' 10m to support it? I assume the insurance would come out of that a bit.

But good on the players to talk about how important this is to them.
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He did

and he's said a bit more since:

Frank Seravalli ‏@frank_seravalli 3h3 hours ago

Fehr declined to speculate about what recourse the #NHLPA has if the league's Board of Governors votes to not participate in 2018 Oly.
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Bob McKenzie Retweeted
Frank Seravalli ‏@frank_seravalli 3h3 hours ago

Rene Fasel says he's not leaving NYC any more optimistic than he was about #NHL participation in 2018 Olympics.
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Bob McKenzie Retweeted
Frank Seravalli ‏@frank_seravalli 3h3 hours ago

#NHLPA's Don Fehr did not deny report #NHL has tabled an offer to participate in 2018 Olympics in exchange for pushing back end date of CBA.
 
Ouch...dude has bad mojo in the legs...

Tampa Bay Lightning ‏@TBLightning 5m5 minutes ago

#TBLightning captain Steven Stamkos is out indefinitely with a lateral meniscus tear, per GM Steve Yzerman.
 
My fantasy team had Quick the shelf and now has Stamkos and Hall too.

I agree with D about the 3 point system. It is stupid some games have a 3 point value and some 2. Would **** LA hard this year
 
YP44 said:
How to I search my posts? Cause I said Werenski would be te top d-man taken in the draft a head of Provorov.

One could say even a broke clock is right twice a day but still.
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I like to think I said something along the lines of "Werenski will be Gonchar to Hanifin's Niedermayer" at some point during that draft year. I can't say I've watched a ton of Columbus outside of highlights, but I did catch a handful of Michigan games on TV last season. There was no denying Werenski's offensive talent. He was a work in progress defensively, but from most accounts he's been okay in that regard.

Either way, I happily have Werenski on my Yahoo team right now.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Didn't Fasel say this morning he 'found' 10m to support it? I assume the insurance would come out of that a bit.

But good on the players to talk about how important this is to them.
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But not from their pockets. The money is coming from another international org which I don't remember. The problem is, that money is earmarked to run that org , not to pay for NHLers to play in the Olympic.
 
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Continue here.

Poor Jack Johnson.
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Jack got so screwed by his parents, he'll still be paying off the creditors well into his next contract.

Johnson will keep $246,000 for “living expenses” each of the next two seasons. In the following three seasons, he’ll get to keep $277,050.50 per season until all his creditors are satisfied.
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http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2016/11/12/blue-jackets--jack-johnson-gives-up-most-of-2-years-pay-in-bankruptcy-settlement.html
 
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