Around the League 15-16 Part 2

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He's not. There isn't an Hockey analyst worth his salt that doesn't know of, speak of and respect Carter. Not sure why you'd think otherwise.

should have clarified but didn't mean in terms of the media as much as I did other fans, from my experience at least.

Like, people know who he is and that he's a good player, but in my (admittedly biased) eyes I think Carter's actually way better than most people perceive, but he's usually overshadowed by Kopitar (in terms of name recognition) to folks that might not don't know any better since he's technically "only" our 2C.
 
should have clarified but didn't mean in terms of the media as much as I did other fans, from my experience at least.

Like, people know who he is and that he's a good player, but in my (admittedly biased) eyes I think Carter's actually way better than most people perceive, but he's usually overshadowed by Kopitar (in terms of name recognition) to folks that might not don't know any better since he's technically "only" our 2C.

I think he got more visibility/recognition from fans when he was on the East Coast, due to earlier games and tv coverage. It's not easy when alot of your games start at 10:30 EST, I watch all the Kings games, even thou it means getting to bed after 1 am. but don' know anyone else in the local hockey circle I know that watch anything past 8 pm. Most of the national coverage is geared towards the East Coast times/teams. Most of those fans only know of him, aside from the SCF coverage, from his tenure with the Flyers and I'm guessing base their valuation on that.

Having seen most of his games since his AHL days, his game changed when he got to LA. He was more 1 dimensional in Philly in that shooting and scoring were his primary interests. He was not much for checking, not as physical and not at driven/motivated. Someone close to him that is in the restaurant biz at the NJ shore that I spoke to a couple years back said that Carter was devastated when he was traded from the Flyers, that it tore him up and some of the criticism of his game then was being lazy, esp in his own end, not backchecking, taking shifts/games off he took to heart after the trade. He's older, wiser maybe. He'll score less goals but his game is more rounded, solid and he's a leader now, something I think came with age more than zip code.
But I think the West Coast timing gives his less visibility.

I don't think he's overshadowed by Kopitar, Kopitar is the better player, more skill, esp defensively. Kopitar just doesn't show that on a regular basis, which is frustrating. He tends to have motivation issues over 82. But he's the better player. Carter is a very good, very dependable 2 way , 2nd line center. And I think he'd be that on any team.
 
should have clarified but didn't mean in terms of the media as much as I did other fans, from my experience at least.

Like, people know who he is and that he's a good player, but in my (admittedly biased) eyes I think Carter's actually way better than most people perceive, but he's usually overshadowed by Kopitar (in terms of name recognition) to folks that might not don't know any better since he's technically "only" our 2C.

It is crazy..even after he produced so well at the last Olympics he still is not on alot of fans top 20 C lists I am sure
 
It is crazy..even after he produced so well at the last Olympics he still is not on alot of fans top 20 C lists I am sure

A lot of people seemed surprised by, or even disagreed with having him on the 2014 team at all. Again, fans. Sharp was the guy for me who didn't really belong. Of course I'm biased but I think Carter is at least a tier ahead of Sharp. And of course Kunitz.
 
A lot of people seemed surprised by, or even disagreed with having him on the 2014 team at all. Again, fans. Sharp was the guy for me who didn't really belong. Of course I'm biased but I think Carter is at least a tier ahead of Sharp. And of course Kunitz.

My Ex's mom (die hard _ucks family) chose Cartsy in the first or second round of our fantasy draft. :laugh:
 
I think he got more visibility/recognition from fans when he was on the East Coast, due to earlier games and tv coverage. It's not easy when alot of your games start at 10:30 EST, I watch all the Kings games, even thou it means getting to bed after 1 am. but don' know anyone else in the local hockey circle I know that watch anything past 8 pm. Most of the national coverage is geared towards the East Coast times/teams. Most of those fans only know of him, aside from the SCF coverage, from his tenure with the Flyers and I'm guessing base their valuation on that.

Having seen most of his games since his AHL days, his game changed when he got to LA. He was more 1 dimensional in Philly in that shooting and scoring were his primary interests. He was not much for checking, not as physical and not at driven/motivated. Someone close to him that is in the restaurant biz at the NJ shore that I spoke to a couple years back said that Carter was devastated when he was traded from the Flyers, that it tore him up and some of the criticism of his game then was being lazy, esp in his own end, not backchecking, taking shifts/games off he took to heart after the trade. He's older, wiser maybe. He'll score less goals but his game is more rounded, solid and he's a leader now, something I think came with age more than zip code.
But I think the West Coast timing gives his less visibility.

I don't think he's overshadowed by Kopitar, Kopitar is the better player, more skill, esp defensively. Kopitar just doesn't show that on a regular basis, which is frustrating. He tends to have motivation issues over 82. But he's the better player. Carter is a very good, very dependable 2 way , 2nd line center. And I think he'd be that on any team.

Good post. As an aside, it's sort of fascinating to look back now and see the diverging paths of Carter and Richards as they left Philly. Both were plagued with rumors of off ice issues, both were signed to massive contracts, and both were traded.

Right away, it seemed as if Richards was the one to handle all of this better. He came to LA and immediately started producing. Carter, on the other hand, went through his growth phase in Columbus, and was traded again.

With both players in LA, their trajectories reversed. Richards started to slip, and slipped more, whereas Carter grew into a consummate professional, not only rounding out his game but becoming a true leader and mentor.

Carter, the once one dimensional attitude problem, will play out his contract, and likely earn another. And Richards, the once well rounded winner and leader, will never play in the league again.

And these are best friends on top of it all.

Journalism is about discovering a powerful narrative within real life events, and sports journalism in particular forgets that, often celebritizing athletes, their problems, and their trophy cases. But I can't think of a more interesting narrative over the past several years than the diverging journies of Richards and Carter. Would make a good 30 in 30 one day.
 
Caps playing down to the Oilers there. Washington has been great this year, especially defensively. Giving up the fewest shots in the league per game. They're my pick from the East this year.

Maybe Williams will pick up the GWG for his first as a Cap.
 
Caps playing down to the Oilers there. Washington has been great this year, especially defensively. Giving up the fewest shots in the league per game. They're my pick from the East this year.

Maybe Williams will pick up the GWG for his first as a Cap.

This is 3/4 so even early in the year back to back to end it hurts.
 
Just saw their upcoming schedule, things could get a lot worse for Anaheim before they get better, next 5 are against the central, and not WPG or COL, 4 on the road.
 
CBJ is the only thing keeping the Ducks out of last place league wide.
It is a great day.

Kings tied for top in the Pacific with a -2 goal differential. Awesome!


Just realized... Toffoli has as many goals as the Ducks. :laugh:
 
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