Around the Dome 4 - Even More Flames News and Notes

[Some Other Flame]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1857120038047678797

 

[Kahvi]

Yes, finally Huby gets to play in the first line

 

[Janks]

I'm here for top line Zary

 

[Kahvi]

Zary becoming a top-6 center and Coronato becoming a good top-6 scorer would be great. Then add couple of grade A prospect in the next two drafts, top-5 picks maybe.

 

[super6646]

Should've been done a while ago. Good

 

[Kahvi]

Klapka has been assigned to AHL. I didn't watch the last two games, but he's been eating popcorn? Coronato is staying up for sure as he should be

 

[Anglesmith]

We are 11-6-3 (I had to do a double-take on that). We are 1 point back of the division lead, with no games-in-hand or any other mitigating factors. Goal differential is even.

We might not make the playoffs, but I think at this point we can abandon the notion of a true lottery pick. I think if we don't make it, we're going to be in the playoff hunt until the bitter end kind of like Philly last year.

 

[Iggys Dome]

We are 11-6-3 (I had to do a double-take on that). We are 1 point back of the division lead, with no games-in-hand or any other mitigating factors. Goal differential is even.

We might not make the playoffs, but I think at this point we can abandon the notion of a true lottery pick. I think if we don't make it, we're going to be in the playoff hunt until the bitter end kind of like Philly last year.

Goodbye first rounder

 

[Toene]

Sup Flames nation. Habs fan here. I picked up Huberdeau in my pool after an okay start in the first few games, but now he has only 5 pts in the last 16 games! I have only 2 UFA trades left until the end of the year, so I must use them very wisely.

So, does he look like shit... or is he just snake bitten/unlucky but playing well overall?

 

[Lunatik]

We are 11-6-3 (I had to do a double-take on that). We are 1 point back of the division lead, with no games-in-hand or any other mitigating factors. Goal differential is even.

We might not make the playoffs, but I think at this point we can abandon the notion of a true lottery pick. I think if we don't make it, we're going to be in the playoff hunt until the bitter end kind of like Philly last year.

Eh. Remember we were 5-0-1 to start teh year, so we've only gone 6-6-2 in the last 15. We've also been doing all our damage at home, after that first stretch the only road game we've won was the one in Montreal.

We're winning on the backs of our defense, goaltending and comebacks, I just don't think that is sustainable.

 

[Anglesmith]

Eh. Remember we were 5-0-1 to start teh year, so we've only gone 6-6-2 in the last 15. We've also been doing all our damage at home, after that first stretch the only road game we've won was the one in Montreal.

We're winning on the backs of our defense, goaltending and comebacks, I just don't think that is sustainable.

That's what playoff teams do, though. Winning streaks mixed in with stretches of .500 hockey.

Cutting the winning streak out is one way to analyze, but another way would be to say they had a road trip where they played three division leaders and then went into Utah to finish, losing all four. Cut that stretch out and it's 11-2-1.

So far they are sticking to the formula of winning all the games they should win and some of the ones they shouldn't. This is 2015 again.

 

[Lunatik]

That's what playoff teams do, though. Winning streaks mixed in with stretches of .500 hockey.

Cutting the winning streak out is one way to analyze, but another way would be to say they had a road trip where they played three division leaders and then went into Utah to finish, losing all four. Cut that stretch out and it's 11-2-1.

So far they are sticking to the formula of winning all the games they should win and some of the ones they shouldn't. This is 2015 again.

There is a significant difference between removing the beginning or end of something, and taking out a chunk in the middle, as doing the latter completely eliminates the larger sample size.

I just don't see us being able to sustain all of Wolf being one of the better goalies in the league, Andersson playing at a Norris level, Bahl looking like a top pair guy... etc. Other than Mantha's injury and Rango being injured in camp, everything that could go right has gone right.

I hope I am wrong and they can sustain this, but I just don't think they will.

 

[Yepthatsme]

There is a significant difference between removing the beginning or end of something, and taking out a chunk in the middle, as doing the latter completely eliminates the larger sample size.

I just don't see us being able to sustain all of Wolf being one of the better goalies in the league, Andersson playing at a Norris level, Bahl looking like a top pair guy... etc. Other than Mantha's injury and Rango being injured in camp, everything that could go right has gone right.

I hope I am wrong and they can sustain this, but I just don't think they will.

…that’s not how sample sizes and stats work? Either way you’re removing a 5-6 game stretch, and keeping 14-15 games. Continuity has nothing to do with it, especially as our record shows we weren’t getting consistent results anyways. A random 6 game stretch is a random 6 game stretch, regardless of how much your argument depends on it.

Our record right now seemingly fits into 3 chunks.

5-0-1
1-5-0
5-1-2

Pessimists will want to get rid of the first chunk. Optimists will want to get rid of the middle chunk. Realists will just see that means we have a 11-6-3 record, and enjoy watching our team do good.

 

[Khrox]

Sup Flames nation. Habs fan here. I picked up Huberdeau in my pool after an okay start in the first few games, but now he has only 5 pts in the last 16 games! I have only 2 UFA trades left until the end of the year, so I must use them very wisely.

So, does he look like shit... or is he just snake bitten/unlucky but playing well overall?

He hasn't really looked good since signing here, but his overall play has probably been the best this year? I wouldn't expect much more than 60 points out of him though

 

[Backlund]

Sup Flames nation. Habs fan here. I picked up Huberdeau in my pool after an okay start in the first few games, but now he has only 5 pts in the last 16 games! I have only 2 UFA trades left until the end of the year, so I must use them very wisely.

So, does he look like shit... or is he just snake bitten/unlucky but playing well overall?

He's been shit since he got here. He's a 50-60 point guy now, don't let his stats in Florida fool you.

 

[Anglesmith]

There is a significant difference between removing the beginning or end of something, and taking out a chunk in the middle, as doing the latter completely eliminates the larger sample size.

I just don't see us being able to sustain all of Wolf being one of the better goalies in the league, Andersson playing at a Norris level, Bahl looking like a top pair guy... etc. Other than Mantha's injury and Rango being injured in camp, everything that could go right has gone right.

I hope I am wrong and they can sustain this, but I just don't think they will.

You can argue that the initial stretch was an outlier because teams at the start of the season may not have settled in yet, but you can also see that the bad road trip was an outlier because it was markedly different in terms of the level the Flames played at.

Really, though, neither should be discounted.

All I know is that over the years I've assumed things could turn around for better or for worse at this point many times, and overwhelmingly it doesn't change.