Around Hockey XXV (All Non-Jackets Hockey Talk Here)

[Double-Shift Lasse]

This is going to end well.

Flyers board definitely not in Torts’ corner.

 

[Jovavic]

Briere brings in Kuzmenko, who previously played with Michkov in Russia, guess we know who he is backing

 

[Monk]

Up and down, like a.. tide? What is it again?

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Up and down, like a.. tide? What is it again?

 

[Monk]

Man I miss Matty Ice

 

[Doggy]

 

[Doggy]

I also heard on The Athletic podcast that Auston Matthews has more goals at his age than Ovechkin did at the same age..

 

[Viqsi]

Naturally they had to do this the day before we play them.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Naturally they had to do this the day before we play them.

Wtf

 

[CBJWerenski8]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/z7KQYVjWnr

Wasnt really sure where to put this, but an interesting read on what Laine has been through over the past few years.

In this he also touches on his time here a bit and how he regrets his comments in December. He also thinks we targeted him that night.

 

[majormajor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/z7KQYVjWnr

Wasnt really sure where to put this, but an interesting read on what Laine has been through over the past few years.

In this he also touches on his time here a bit and how he regrets his comments in December. He also thinks we targeted him that night.

The chronology is confusing.

He was known to be staying up all night playing video games in Winnipeg (his fortnite profile was public), but he had supposedly moved past it before going to Columbus. In this interview he places a two year period of gaming until 3AM some time after his father passed in November of 2021. But it was the previous year when Laine was at his worst as a Jacket, and looked like a total zombie. And it was shortly after his father passed that Laine had his best run as a Jacket, when the line with Jenner and Nyquist was formed.

Also hilarious that this guy is going to work on 4 hours sleep because he was up gaming all night, and then after he leaves for another club he complains that those guys weren't in it to win it. He really was the #1 problem when we were trying to develop a winning room.

 

[stevo61]

Yeah as usual things don't make a ton of sense but whatever, if he's happy in the moment while things are going decently we'll that's fine for him I guess.

The comments thing and being targeted really shows a lack of intelligence. He had to learn the hard way that talking shit about your former teammates who stood behind you was a bad idea? Not mentioning Johnny who jumped on his mental health campaign? All that and his biggest "targeted" hit against was him being a moron skating into Voronkov like he thought something else was going to happen.

 

[majormajor]

The comments thing and being targeted really shows a lack of intelligence. He had to learn the hard way that talking shit about your former teammates who stood behind you was a bad idea? Not mentioning Johnny who jumped on his mental health campaign? All that and his biggest "targeted" hit against was him being a moron skating into Voronkov like he thought something else was going to happen.

He didn't understand the cause and effect of talking shit.

But it goes beyond that. He was consistently showing up to games f***ed up from gaming all night, turning the puck over constantly. And now he says "I had to get out of there, those guys weren't committed to winning". A lack of social intelligence and a lack of self awareness.

 

[stevo61]

Will be interesting to see how he handles his next contract negotiation and who it will be with. I think Hughes saw a buy low option but I don't know if he's the type that will commit to Laine for the longterm with winning in mind.

 

[Viqsi]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/z7KQYVjWnr

Wasnt really sure where to put this, but an interesting read on what Laine has been through over the past few years.

In this he also touches on his time here a bit and how he regrets his comments in December. He also thinks we targeted him that night.

To be fair, we did. Just not with intent to injure. That was a lesson that needed to be delivered and it sounds like he picked up on it.

Having read that, I'm prepared to give him a pass. Stress and depression make you do all sorts of strange and stupid things, and the reality of what's going on around you need not apply. Literally all of that, I was nodding along saying "yep, that makes perfect sense". I half suspect he's on the autism spectrum, actually - I can easily relate to that whole "only have these particular pillars and they're all that mattter w/r/t who I am" thing and beating up on myself because of it, and crumbling to pieces when something you've leaned on your whole life abruptly and unexpectedly vanishes out from underneath you. Wishing him luck.

 

[Viqsi]

The comments thing and being targeted really shows a lack of intelligence. He had to learn the hard way that talking shit about your former teammates who stood behind you was a bad idea?

I'm willing to bet it didn't even fully occur to him that that's what he was doing.

 

[stevo61]

I'm willing to bet it didn't even fully occur to him that that's what he was doing.

I buy some of that and the rest of it but he even followed it up with "I'm not going to say anything negative about other organisations any more. Had to learn that the hard way." he knew he was saying bad things, still wild he was unaware people would react to hearing bad things about them.

I'm glad he's finding help and happiness but a lot of this feels self serving and he's still completely unaware of what he himself brings to this entire situation.

 

[majormajor]

Having read that, I'm prepared to give him a pass. Stress and depression make you do all sorts of strange and stupid things, and the reality of what's going on around you need not apply. Literally all of that, I was nodding along saying "yep, that makes perfect sense". I half suspect he's on the autism spectrum, actually - I can easily relate to that whole "only have these particular pillars and they're all that mattter w/r/t who I am" thing and beating up on myself because of it, and crumbling to pieces when something you've leaned on your whole life abruptly and unexpectedly vanishes out from underneath you. Wishing him luck.

I get that, I very much relate to it as well. What I don't get is the solipsism - he pointed at our players, who are winning right now, and said you guys don't have the winning passion like I do. When I'm f***ing up my responsibilities because I can't sleep, I know that's on me.