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Was watching some highlights and noticed that Nashville has Stammer back playing center.

Interesting to see if that helps him.
 




Now, to get back to my BS.

2.5% of $7b is $175m (I have no idea how to account for mixed currency.) Cut that between 8 teams, and it's almost 22 million to each of them to expand hockey. Tariffs would raise the prices on construction materials, but they do what they can.
 
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Friday and Saturday will be the 2025 Sloan sports analytics conference. It'll go up on YouTube.

Most of the hockey stuff will be on Saturday, as Friday is the trade deadline.

A lot of the panels are basically a waste of time, but there are a few interesting things that can be learned. The segments on NCAA GMs could be interesting as it's actually something new.


One of the studies is going to be bad news for Coop.

If they start measuring coaches, he might actually have to start pulling his weight.
 
Incredible things happened in Finnish hockey today. Too good not to share.

IFK (team in white) can clinch a straight playoff spot with a regulation win. So they decide to pull the goalie in a tied game. However if Kärpät manages to score on the empty net, they get the last play-in spot. Overtime win would have also been enough for them. However this then happened.



Just in case that wasn't enough, the goal scorer finished tied for first in the league in goals because of this.
 
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NHL GM meetings start today. Elliotte Friedman has said that some of the big focuses will be 3-on-3 OT, NCAA & CHL, and injury risk from international breaks.




If there's Mass migration from New England into the QMJHL, it would fundamentally reshape the character of the Q in particular. Keeping Americans and Canadians in their own nations (with limited exceptions) until they're 18 should even that out.

Although I'm not sure 16-year-old Liam from Plymouth, MA would be as eager to join Rouyn-Noranda or Val-d'Or as they would to join Charlottetown or Cape Breton. Which is a whole other issue.
 
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It's only a three-day event. I know that the NCAA stuff is being continually worked on, but I'd have hoped that, especially since there don't seem to be any immediately pressing issues, that we'd be hearing more about that.
 

– The US and Russia are going to host hockey matches with NHL and KHL players. That would do a lot to end Russia's sporting isolation after invading Ukraine.
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I'm sure this is news to Gary Bettman. I just don't know when this supposed tournament would ever happen. They want to play games in both Russia and the US, and the travel adjustments would just be too much to handle, IMO. Would ESPN even be interested in going to Russia to cover those games? USA Hockey I'm sure will get into big trouble with the IIHF, and that will make the IOC quite cross, indeed.

There's the Olympics in 2026, so that would push the next available date to 2027, and it'll probably be forgotten about by that point.

They could work something into the new CBA where they can't go to countries that fit criteria that happens to describe Russia. Like they can't schedule international play to happen outside US and Canada, or against non-NHL or IIHF competition. Marty Walsh was in the Biden administration. If Bettman and Walsh don't want to go, they'll make it not happen.

The by-laws aren't public, so maybe there is a rule already.
 
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The KHL has zero shot of winning against (theoretically) the NHL's best US players, so it's clearly about Putin achieving political objectives. What's infuriating is that it was some spur of the moment comment that's now going to be treated as a legitimate idea by like 40% of the country.

NHLPA executive director Marty Walsh was literally in Biden's cabinet until 2023. I don't think we have a more qualified person who can gum up the works, and prevent the NHL and it's players from being used as a political football. Having nothing ever change is what DC specializes in.

NHL players have to be insured. That could put a halt to it. Insurance, a lack of interest from ESPN, player travel concerns, delicate, pre-negotiated points of the CBA, etc. Just a bunch of things. No, no, no. It's got nothing to do with being used as a political pawn.
 
The NHL is reconsidering what the 2026 All-Star Game will look like. Since it's supposed to be the send-off to the Olympics, there's even less of a chance that any 3-on-3 games will have any pace.

So my first thought is to emphasize the skills competition (which is maybe the more fun event, anyway). I'm thinking that they could change the skills competition to echo other Olympic sports.

Biathalon: skating and shooting (pucks)
Figure skating: could just be for fun, but if the players were able to come up with their own stickhandling paths, they could show off what they're good at.
Curling: basically shuffleboard with pucks
Speed skating: relay race
puck slalom: what it sounds like
mascot break dancing (exhibition sport)

This would be on either ESPN or TNT in the states, so maybe the Olympics being on NBC would squash this.
 
I'm messing around with Google Canvas and got the bot to make an NHLe calculator. I don't understand the math that well, but here it is. It's not just figuring out NHLe, but between leagues as well. NCAA to ECHL, NAHL to USHL, NHL to SPHL, etc.

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‎Gemini - NHL Equivalency Score Calculator

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I also got the bot to explain AHL to ECHL, as a check.
The NHLe calculator facilitates the conversion of a player's scoring statistics from the AHL to the ECHL. The process is articulated as follows:

1. Identification of NHLe Factors:

  • The calculator employs a system of predetermined NHLe factors, which function as conversion coefficients. These factors are essential, as they quantify the relative scoring difficulty between different hockey leagues. They are derived from historical data analysis, comparing scoring rates across various leagues to establish a correlative relationship. A higher factor indicates a greater degree of difficulty in scoring within that league, and conversely, a lower factor suggests a more conducive scoring environment.
  • These factors are not arbitrarily assigned; rather, they are meticulously determined to reflect the variations in competition level, player skill, team strategies, and overall league dynamics. For instance, the NHL, as the preeminent professional hockey league, possesses the highest factor (1.00), thereby serving as the baseline for comparison. Leagues such as the AHL, characterized by highly skilled players and intense competition, are assigned substantial factors, whereas developmental leagues like the ECHL are assigned lower values.
  • According to the code, the NHLe factor for the AHL is 0.53, and for the ECHL, it is 0.25. This disparity indicates that scoring is more prevalent in the ECHL compared to the AHL. Consequently, a player's raw point totals typically require upward adjustment when transitioning from the AHL to the ECHL to accurately represent equivalent scoring proficiency.
2. Application of the Conversion Formula:

  • The conversion process is primarily executed through the application of a specific formula. This formula mathematically translates a player's scoring output from one league to another, taking into account the league-specific NHLe factors.
  • The formula used for the conversion is as follows:

    NHLe Points (ECHL) = Points (AHL) * (NHLe Factor (AHL) / NHLe Factor (ECHL))
  • This formula essentially scales the player's original point total by the quotient of the NHLe factors of the two leagues. This quotient functions as a multiplier, adjusting the points to align with the scoring environment of the target league. It could be argued that this provides a valuable tool for comparing player performance across different leagues.
3. Illustrative Example:

  • Consider, for example, an AHL player who has accumulated 50 points over a season.
  • To estimate their equivalent scoring production in the ECHL, the formula is applied: NHLe Points (ECHL) = 50 * (0.53 / 0.25)
  • Performing the division within the parentheses: NHLe Points (ECHL) = 50 * 2.12
  • Subsequently, the multiplication is performed: NHLe Points (ECHL) = 106
  • Therefore, based on this NHLe calculation, an AHL player with 50 points would be projected to achieve an equivalent of 106 points in the ECHL. This notable increase reflects the difference in scoring pace between the two leagues, as quantified by their respective NHLe factors.
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Sounds complicated.

Here's it rewritten in a shorter, casual tone
Okay, so check it out, here's how the NHLe calculator, like, figures out how an AHL player's stats would translate to the ECHL:

1. Gettin' the NHLe Factors:

  • The calculator uses pre-set NHLe factors (conversion numbers) showing how hard it is to score in different leagues. A higher factor means it's tougher to score.
  • These factors show differences in competition level, player skill, team strategies, and the league's overall feel. The NHL has the highest factor (1.00).
  • From the code, the AHL factor is 0.53, and the ECHL factor is 0.25, meaning scoring is more common in the ECHL compared to the AHL. So, you've got to adjust a player's points when going from the AHL to the ECHL.
2. Droppin' the Conversion Formula:

  • This formula mathematically changes a player's scoring from one league to another, using those league-specific NHLe factors:

    NHLe Points (ECHL) = Points (AHL) * (NHLe Factor (AHL) / NHLe Factor (ECHL))
  • The formula scales the player's original points by the ratio of the NHLe factors, adjusting the points to fit the scoring scene in the league we're going to.
3. Check This Example Out:

  • Let's say an AHL player has 50 points in a season.
  • To figure out their ECHL equivalent, we use the formula: NHLe Points (ECHL) = 50 * (0.53 / 0.25)
  • Calculation: NHLe Points (ECHL) = 106
  • So, an AHL player with 50 points is projected to get 106 points in the ECHL. This shows the difference in scoring between the two leagues, which the NHLe factors capture.
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my source was Rethinking NHLe
 
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Okay, another one.


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‎Gemini - NHLe Points Calculator HTML Code

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It takes NHLe, and one of the most useful stats I use, point projections, and puts them together. Point projections (pts divided by games played, multiplied by the number of games in a season) is useful when you're looking at a guy who maybe sat in the press box more often than not. 60 pts in 65 OHL games is different from 7 pts in 18 AHL games.

Explanation from Gemini Canvas (Google Canvas is more like MS Paint, although Gemini is also from Google)
Explanation for a General User

The NHL Points Calculator is a tool that helps compare hockey players' scoring stats across different leagues.

Why do we need this?

It's not always easy to compare players who play in different leagues. For example, scoring 30 goals in the AHL (a professional league) is not the same as scoring 30 goals in the OHL (a junior league). The NHL Points Calculator helps to even the playing field.

How does it work?

The calculator uses a system of "conversion factors." These factors help adjust a player's stats to reflect the differences in scoring levels between leagues. It's like a translator that converts stats from one league to another.

Here's what the calculator does:

  1. NHLe (NHL equivalency): This part of the calculator estimates how many points a player would score if they were playing in the NHL right now. It takes their current stats and adjusts them using the conversion factors.
  2. Input:To use the calculator, you'll need to provide:
    • The league where the player is currently playing.
    • The league you want to compare them to (usually the NHL).
    • The number of points they've scored.
The calculator then does the math and gives you the NHLe score.

In simple terms:

The calculator takes a player's scoring stats from one league and estimates what those stats would look like in another league. This helps us compare players from different leagues and get a better sense of their scoring ability.

Detailed Explanation of the Math

The NHL Calculator is a tool designed to facilitate the comparison of hockey player scoring statistics across different leagues. It addresses the issue of varying scoring rates between leagues by applying league-specific adjustment factors to player point totals. The primary output is a league-adjusted point total, known as the NHLe (NHL equivalency).

Methodology

  1. League Adjustment Factors:
    • The calculator employs a set of static league adjustment factors, stored in the nhlFactors object. These factors represent the ratio of scoring rates between a given league and the NHL, derived from historical data. For example, the factor for the AHL is 0.53, indicating that, historically, a point in the AHL is "worth" approximately 0.53 points in the NHL.
  2. Calculation:
    • The calculator takes a player's point total (points) from a source league (fromLeague) and converts it to an NHL-equivalent point total (NHLePoints) using the following formula:

      NHLePoints = Points * (FromLeagueFactor / ToLeagueFactor)<br><br>
    • Where FromLeagueFactor and ToLeagueFactor are the adjustment factors for the source and target leagues, respectively.
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So, for example, Isaac Howard

he has 47 pts in 35 games (of 35 I'm pretty sure, NCAA schedules are sort of funky, and I'm not looking at Michigan State's schedule)
Here's the situation:

  • NCAA Player: 47 points in 35 games
  • Target League: NHL
  • NHL Season Length: 82 games
Here's how the calculator works:

  1. League Adjustment:
    • The calculator uses a special factor to compare scoring between the NCAA and the NHL.
    • Each league has its own factor, and these factors help to adjust the player's points to reflect the difference in scoring levels.
    • The formula used is: NHLe Points = Points * (NCAA Factor / NHL Factor)
    • From the code, the NCAA factor is 0.26, and the NHL factor is 1.00.
    • So, the calculation is: 47 points * (0.26 / 1.00) = 12.22 points. This means that those 47 points in the NCAA are considered equivalent to 12.22 points in the NHL.
  2. Points per game:
    • The calculator calculates the player's points per game in the NCAA: 47 points / 35 games = 1.34 points per game.
  3. Projection:
    • To figure out how many points the player might score in a full NHL season, the calculator multiplies their points per game by the length of an NHL season.
    • The formula used is: Projected Points = (NHLe Points / NCAA Games Played) * NHL Season Length
    • So, the calculation is: (12.22 points / 35 games) * 82 NHL games = 28.61 projected NHL points.
What does this mean?

Based on the calculator's formulas:

  • NHLe (NHL equivalent): The player's 47 points in 35 NCAA games are considered equivalent to about 12.22 points in the NHL.
  • Projected Points: If this player played a full 82-game NHL season, and maintained the same scoring rate relative to the league, they would be projected to score about 28.61 points.
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You can 'download' these programs if you copy the code and save it somehow. I downloaded notepad++ yesterday and just save it as a hyper text markup language file (HTML). Gemini will delete the program in six months, although it can always be rebuilt by entering the HTML code.

You can also copy the code, and put it into Gemini, or another LLM (DeepSeek, ChatGPT, etc.) have it build it for you there, and be able to ask it questions or make modifications.

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‎Gemini - NHL Equivalency Score Calculator

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