OT: Around Hockey and the NHL

[FinnLightning26]

Canadian hockey manufacturing seems like it's just a few factories. I know there's a stick factory in Ontario, and NHL jerseys come from Quebec. Meet the Quebec company that makes every NHL jersey worn on the ice | TSN

It looks like replica Fanatics jerseys come from Indonesia, so no movement there.

I'm also seeing on eBay and lockerswap a pair of retail Bauer elbow pads made in Thailand, a pro stock CCM helmet made in China, and pro stock CCM skates made in Canada.

The Canadian made stuff was always at risk. Extended tariffs may push that over the edge. Canadians can still sell to Canadians, but it's about losing the US market, and retaliatory tariffs.


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The objective with Canada seems to be a bit different, as there's a public fixation with Canada becoming a state. This is all transactional, though.

Even the talk of that is batshit f***ing insane but I digress.

 

[LordStanlersCup]

This is actually so embarrassing. The outlaws logo is from chel and the other two logos look worse than most of the AI concepts I have seen on twitter. They gave themselves an entire year and this is what they came up with? There was so much to work with here, and that's it?

 

[LightningStrikes]

The best logos are usually the ones a child could roughly draw imo paired with a good color combination. These here look like generic 3D placeholders from a video game.

I guess the yeti with the mountains concept is the best but the execution is lacking. Its borders are weird and unnecessarily unsymmetrical. And it would go with the “HC” name apparently which I personally find out of place in NA hockey. This is not European soccer.

 

[Felonious Python]

The colors don't work for Outlaws. It's got to get into the reds, oranges, and yellows.

Are they really the official logos, or are they the logos they officially showed to fans?


I'm not convinced that these are the 'final' logos. They decided to pull Wasatch just a few days ago for Outlaws. How many final logos do they have?

 

[Felonious Python]

30 day delay with the Canadian tariffs.

 

[Renopucker]

30 day delay with the Canadian tariffs.

I wonder how much fentanyl goes NORTH to Canada via US border towns and roads? I’ll bet its ALOT. And the Canadians ain’t crying and kavetching about it.

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[Felonious Python]

I saw this tweet and decided to mention it. I'm not focused on the politics, as we all know where that type of discussion goes, but it should be a sign for NHL teams to remind their players every so often, in training camp, and maybe around Halloween as election season picks up, that political donations in the US are public record.

 

[Felonious Python]

Coming soon to NCAA hockey?


It makes sense for these types of teams to have separate scouting departments. The player pool is becoming larger, and with relaxed rules around transfers, there can be more movement than ever.

In most pro settings, the coach reports to the GM, but it doesn't have to be that way. Some Athletic Directors may still want the coach to be their direct report, and the GM would be more of a scouting role.

 

[Master P]

I saw this tweet and decided to mention it. I'm not focused on the politics, as we all know where that type of discussion goes, but it should be a sign for NHL teams to remind their players every so often, in training camp, and maybe around Halloween as election season picks up, that political donations in the US are public record.

Oh that person seems totally mentally stable and reasonable.

Players voted for Trump? Boo f***ing hoo.

 

[Felonious Python]

Oh that person seems totally mentally stable and reasonable.

Players voted for Trump? Boo f***ing hoo.

Players should probably stay away from any political donations they have to put their name to.

A hundo to a candidate probably isn't worth the downsides of getting stereotyped and categorized politically. "Republicans buy sneakers, too."

A donation potentially puts you on the hook, in some people's minds, for anything that politician does or says.

 

[Master P]

Players should probably stay away from any political donations they have to put their name to.

A hundo to a candidate probably isn't worth the downsides of getting stereotyped and categorized politically. "Republicans buy sneakers, too."

A donation potentially puts you on the hook, in some people's minds, for anything that politician does or says.

As if someone needs to donate to get stereotyped or categorized politically.

 

[Felonious Python]

Ok. What about a modified 2.5% that's split between the NHL and NHLPA?

2.5% of league revenues would go into the industry growth fund each year, and the NHLPA's eventual cut of that investment would go into expanding player pensions?

I'm a bit hesitant to cut the NHLPA in, not because I don't think they deserve it (I do), I just think that having more voices in the process complicates things. It would, however, directly tie it to HRR. A 5% pool between the owners doesn't seem to concern the players that much.

A league minimum deal of $850,000 would set aside $21,250 for the growth fund per year. The PA may be able to internally adjust their own fees, so it may not be an additional 2.5% that comes out of their paychecks. They'd also have to figure out how the escrow would work. I know that if the league is falling short of revenue projections, it's probably time to put more investment in.

I don't think players would cause too much of a fuss, since the money is going to directly grow grassroots hockey itself, and they'll get paid in retirement. The owners have less skin in the game, and they're really the ones that need to take initiative here. It also takes away the incentive for the owners to put extra money into their projects. Sure, they get $20 million to spend, but if they kick in an additional $5m of their own on top, then they can really be satisfied.

Owner-led investment would still raise boats as they need coaches, refs, and everything else at their rinks, and the expanded access to hockey should raise HRR indirectly anyway.