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The best way to work towards a quick turn around is to start moving some of these older pieces. Move on from a few of the 30+ crowd (Forsberg, Josi, Saros, Marchessault, and RoR should have positive value). If there is a way to get the 4th overall from Utah and maintain the 5th ova, I'd do it. Draft a C and then Martone or draft 2 centers and have a possible 1/2 punch then enter the McKenna sweepstakes.
 
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The best way to work towards a quick turn around is to start moving some of these older pieces. Move on from a few of the 30+ crowd (Forsberg, Josi, Saros, Marchessault, and RoR should have positive value). If there is a way to get the 4th overall from Utah and maintain the 5th ova, I'd do it. Draft a C and then Martone or draft 2 centers and have a possible 1/2 punch then enter the McKenna sweepstakes.
Would love to grab another top 5 pick in this draft.
 
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I don't want this front office anywhere near a "rebuild" and full rebuilds rarely work.
Well, I can't see adding a $14 million Marner would bring us a much better record next season either. May as well commit to getting younger and seeing what some of our prospects can do around the vets and evaluate that way.

Maybe Forsberg can get something, but I think many here are overvaluing what we can get back via trade for any one of our players.
 
Forsberg could get a good return. Even on an offensively starved team he still got 31G 76P in 82 games. Yes, he will be 31 next season but still should have 3-4 seasons of high end play so he should be tempting if he will waive his nmc. His playoff numbers are pretty good too. 31G 59P in 81 games. So his goal scoring rates doesn't really drop
 
Well, I can't see adding a $14 million Marner would bring us a much better record next season either. May as well commit to getting younger and seeing what some of our prospects can do around the vets and evaluate that way.

Maybe Forsberg can get something, but I think many here are overvaluing what we can get back via trade for any one of our players.
Why get younger with this coach? He's just going to screw them up and waive them because he can't figure out how to use them in his system.
 
Why get younger with this coach? He's just going to screw them up and waive them because he can't figure out how to use them in his system.
Totally agree, and that's why I mentioned the coach in my first post.

But I can easily counter with...Why trust Trotz to get any value for any of our players (which I really don't think there's a lot there to begin with)?
 
Totally agree, and that's why I mentioned the coach in my first post.

But I can easily counter with...Why trust Trotz to get any value for any of our players (which I really don't think there's a lot there to begin with)?
that's why this sucks so much right? We have 3 first round picks but a bad GM and bad coach
 
None of the things which "make sense" to us are going to happen though.

Trotz simply isn't going to trade Saros... or Forsberg, or O'Reilly or any of our veteran pieces which might have any value.

Maybe Brunette will get fired at some point next season if the team continues to struggle, but I wouldn't be especially confident that will lead to any massive change in approach. It might get us a coach who is more flexible/adaptable in his gameplan. But the handling of younger players is something the GM can control... if he wants to. And Trotz doesn't seem inclined to intercede in this area, so anybody he hires is going to continue to fall back on "gritty veteran depth", just because that's what all NHL coaches tend to do, lacking any directive to the contrary.

I think we're pretty royally screwed for the next several years... none of these trades or moves we all think seem obvious are going to happen, alas. :help:
 
None of the things which "make sense" to us are going to happen though.

Trotz simply isn't going to trade Saros... or Forsberg, or O'Reilly or any of our veteran pieces which might have any value.

Maybe Brunette will get fired at some point next season if the team continues to struggle, but I wouldn't be especially confident that will lead to any massive change in approach. It might get us a coach who is more flexible/adaptable in his gameplan. But the handling of younger players is something the GM can control... if he wants to. And Trotz doesn't seem inclined to intercede in this area, so anybody he hires is going to continue to fall back on "gritty veteran depth", just because that's what all NHL coaches tend to do, lacking any directive to the contrary.

I think we're pretty royally screwed for the next several years... none of these trades or moves we all think seem obvious are going to happen, alas. :help:
Preds don’t need a multi-million dollar goalie right now. What for? No playoffs look attainable for awhile and certainly no Cup. Might as well lose by 3 or 4 as 1 or 2.
But you’re right; it ain’t happening, nevertheless, it could and should. I’m not against Saros but he’s gonna be a burden to the finances for no real reason.
Edmonton took another direction. The old “We can outscore anybody; who needs a star goalie?”. Well, apparently they do!
But they could still win the Cup. Got a chance. We’ll see.
Trotz will learn from some of these things and when he’s GM in Saskatoon I just hope we’re not the Quebec City Preds.
 
Preds don’t need a multi-million dollar goalie right now. What for? No playoffs look attainable for awhile and certainly no Cup. Might as well lose by 3 or 4 as 1 or 2.
But you’re right; it ain’t happening, nevertheless, it could and should. I’m not against Saros but he’s gonna be a burden to the finances for no real reason.
Edmonton took another direction. The old “We can outscore anybody; who needs a star goalie?”. Well, apparently they do!
But they could still win the Cup. Got a chance. We’ll see.
Trotz will learn from some of these things and when he’s GM in Saskatoon I just hope we’re not the Quebec City Preds.
Worked for Edmonton, but Carolina, Vegas, Colorado, Jersey, LA, and Toronto are all teams that could have progressed further with better goaltending this postseason. Add Edmonton if they ultimately lose.
 
Crazy question for you all: Prince get a center at number five then they draft a right defenseman at number 23 you get a phone call from Kyle Dubois. He offers the last year of Geno Malkin for number 26 do you do it?
 
Worked for Edmonton, but Carolina, Vegas, Colorado, Jersey, LA, and Toronto are all teams that could have progressed further with better goaltending this postseason. Add Edmonton if they ultimately lose.
Yup. Somebody COULD profit with Saros. He won't have the same market today that he might have before he signed that abysmal contract, but some team SHOULD still be interested.

It won't matter one bit, however, when Trotz is completely uninterested in moving him. We are "stuck" with Saros for the next 8 years. I just can't practically see that changing. :help:
 
Crazy question for you all: Prince get a center at number five then they draft a right defenseman at number 23 you get a phone call from Kyle Dubois. He offers the last year of Geno Malkin for number 26 do you do it?
Good lord, no.

What does Malkin do for us in 2025-26? Make us finish 11th in the Conference instead of 14th? And it's insulting to Malkin from the Pittsburgh side as well. He has a NMC. Maybe at the TDL he would waive it to go win a Cup with the right team, who knows. He's not waiving it this summer to join a tank team like ours.
 
Good lord, no.

What does Malkin do for us in 2025-26? Make us finish 11th in the Conference instead of 14th? And it's insulting to Malkin from the Pittsburgh side as well. He has a NMC. Maybe at the TDL he would waive it to go win a Cup with the right team, who knows. He's not waiving it this summer to join a tank team like ours.
I have this recurring nightmare. Goes like this:
Colorado GM: We’re going to move MacKinnon. We’ll retain. We are checking with you first. Any interest?
Preds GM: MacKinnon? Can he backcheck and fight?
I wake up screaming.
 
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That the front office doesn't believe we can compete and therefore are willing to take a "step back". Which is pretty wild thing to do less than a year after going all-in with the current core and spending a gazillion dollars in FA to make the push.
I think it's just as wild to give a coach that team and not fire him once he completely fails. Now he's going to lead a team rebuilding all because of his shitty coaching?! Awful.
 
That the front office doesn't believe we can compete and therefore are willing to take a "step back". Which is pretty wild thing to do less than a year after going all-in with the current core and spending a gazillion dollars in FA to make the push.
I wouldn't call that a "rumor". It was one writer doing what most fans on HFBoards do, glancing over the list of team rosters and saying "wow, Nashville really sucks, maybe their front office should be thinking about rebuilding?"

And who knows, maybe it will eventually come to that. But it's going to be AFTER the season is underway, once Trotz sees that just running it back with Bruno & The Geezers isn't going to result in some miraculous turnaround.

That timeline is of course unsatisfactory to the hordes of fans and writers around the league who would love to see big trades and shakeups happen this summer instead. It's a weak UFA group, teams have lots more Cap flexibility than has been the case in recent years, and almost nobody is selling. So they WANT something to happen. But it's not going to.
 
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