Speculation: Armchair GM Thread

[Top 6 Spaling]

I think Schenn and Nyquist have both played their last game for us

 

[herzausstein]

I think Schenn and Nyquist have both played their last game for us

Gotta move quick. Another game tomorrow

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Plus, we did Duchene pretty dirty (at least by his telling) so its a bit nonsensical to now worry about it. Also, I'm not convinced that an inability to sign marquee free agents wouldn't actually be a good thing given how all those signings have gone for us.

And also, with the projected Cap increases, the "cuffs are off" to some extent... fewer teams will be as hardpressed (at least for a little while) in terms of hanging onto any potentially marquee free agents.

That or, these marquee guys will draw such astronomical new salaries that your point again comes up as to how wise it really would be to sign those new ground-breaking contracts. Marner and Rantanen are the two potential marquee guys still on the docket for this July. Not sure they will remain so. But anyway, if you have to sign these guys at 7x$15-16M... that's getting a little steep for guys who still aren't really franchise players. Save for the lottery of circumstance in landing on the teams they landed on, I'm not sure they are much better than Forsberg, for example... so justifying massive ground-breaking contracts for them is a bit of a dicey proposition.

Until everything gets back to a Cap log-jam, of course, which probably won't take too long. But it may be better to wait for that dust to settle than to be the first ones jumping with both feet into a salary paradigm shift.

 

[Scoresberg]

One guy I wouldn't mind bringing home is Seth Jones. Always loved his game and he still looked really good especially early on in Columbus. In CHI, not so much but who does in that dumpster fire.

Obviously carrying a hefty salary but has a lot of years left and he's not that old. Would be a good replacement for Josi, too.

Josi - Jones
Skjei - Barron
Molendyk - Lauzon
Wilsby

Suddenly, you're looking at a pretty decent group of defensemen. No more Schenns or Blankenburgs.

 

[Predsanddead24]

One guy I wouldn't mind bringing home is Seth Jones. Always loved his game and he still looked really good especially early on in Columbus. In CHI, not so much but who does in that dumpster fire.

Obviously carrying a hefty salary but has a lot of years left and he's not that old. Would be a good replacement for Josi, too.

Josi - Jones
Skjei - Barron
Molendyk - Lauzon
Wilsby

Suddenly, you're looking at a pretty decent group of defensemen. No more Schenns or Blankenburgs.

Why do we want to keep adding expensive players who are on the wrong side of 30? In any case, he's actively trying to get out of his dumpster fire team so not sure why he'd want to go to another dumpster fire.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

One guy I wouldn't mind bringing home is Seth Jones. Always loved his game and he still looked really good especially early on in Columbus. In CHI, not so much but who does in that dumpster fire.

Obviously carrying a hefty salary but has a lot of years left and he's not that old. Would be a good replacement for Josi, too.

Josi - Jones
Skjei - Barron
Molendyk - Lauzon
Wilsby

Suddenly, you're looking at a pretty decent group of defensemen. No more Schenns or Blankenburgs.

Maybe I'm not watching the current version of Jones closely enough, but if he's getting moved with retention, my ears would also be perking up.

I mean, here's a RD with size who would slot very nicely onto that 1st pair. The wrong side of 30? Well, he just turned 30. So with 5 years left on his contract, he doesn't finish at quite as geriatric an age as a lot of our guys do.

I also don't think we would need quite the magnitude of retention to make a deal work as some other interested teams do? Let's say $2M retention. Get him at $7.5M? He's still averaging over 24 minutes a night as an NHL #1D, 26 pts in 40 games on the shittiest of shitty teams. Like I said, I'm not watching him, but I haven't heard that he's slowed or "broken" or whatnot? Maybe he's not quite the superstar Norris-candidate that some hoped he would be. But we've got a $7M Cap hit on Brady Skjei, and that seems to be around "the going rate" for competent #2/3 D these days?

Why do we want to keep adding expensive players who are on the wrong side of 30? In any case, he's actively trying to get out of his dumpster fire team so not sure why he'd want to go to another dumpster fire.

He probably has a soft spot for Dallas, as a hometown team. And he has a full NMC. So he might get to broker his own deal to some extent.

 

[Thundr70]

Hard pass on Jones that ship sailed years ago.

 

[ShagDaddy]

Florida is in a position I think Trotz should keep an eye on. Sam Bennet is going to be a free agent at the end of the season. If Florida decides to pay him to keep him then that would put Anton Lundell in a position to be stuck as their 3rd line center again next year. Lundell is going to be a solid top 6 center in this league. Trotz should seriously look at trying to get one of those two players if possible, Bennet through free agency or Lundell through a trade if they do re-sign Bennet. That would solve part of the center problem for the organization.

 

[BigFatCat999]

I would be happy if Nyqvist and Schenn are gone before Monday.

 

[Kat Predator]

There are people that think Schenn is a good add for a Cup run.

It would be cool to downgrade our pairings a few more notches as well. It not like they bother to actually defend much anyway.

 

[Kat Predator]

 

[BigFatCat999]

Has anything happened yet? No good night.

 

[GeauxPreds1]

One guy I wouldn't mind bringing home is Seth Jones. Always loved his game and he still looked really good especially early on in Columbus. In CHI, not so much but who does in that dumpster fire.

Obviously carrying a hefty salary but has a lot of years left and he's not that old. Would be a good replacement for Josi, too.

Josi - Jones
Skjei - Barron
Molendyk - Lauzon
Wilsby

Suddenly, you're looking at a pretty decent group of defensemen. No more Schenns or Blankenburgs.

I don't think bringing in Jones would be a smart play. The building a team through free agency and trades has to stop. Trotz has to sell off what he can at the deadline and then more in the off-season and possibly build around Misa and McKenna. E

 

[Kat Predator]

I don't think bringing in Jones would be a smart play. The building a team through free agency and trades has to stop. Trotz has to sell off what he can at the deadline and then more in the off-season and possibly build around Misa and McKenna. E

Do you honestly think he's going to go scorched earth? Besides, you can only buyout and retain on so many contracts at any one time.

The more likely scenario with the cap going up is Trotz pushes his shiny new stack of chips into the middle of the table for someone like Giroux for 7 years and a NMC.

 

[BigFatCat999]

I am consuming hockey, rumors like their candy:

The four names I am seeing, always are NyQvist, O’Reilly, Schenn and McCarron

Nyqvist , I would take a first next year. The team has a ton of 2005 pics. I would love to see them pick up a few next year.

I may be wrong on this, but I see it’s either an O’Reilly or Sissons situation. The team has a lot of lower end center depth and if the Preds pick with their good pick, they’re going to get a prospect top six center
(unless they win the lottery and pick number one then they get an extra extra left-handed defenseman.) I’d be in the idea of moving Sissions for a first and a mid round pick in 26. I think both have a lot more value than we think.

McCarron, like whatever man take give us a mid round pick with good or take him and a pic and we move up a round.

The media is focusing on Schenn and his brother. This honestly sounds like a two way Toronto deal. The media is pushing this and it sounds like the team is trying to get both to fit both their needs. If you ask any of us a mid brown pick in 2025 we’re happy but it sounds like one of those deals where the GM trade a first for Schenn. Kinda like when Poile traded a first for Gaustead. If it’s Toronto, they do not Have their first this year or next year, but they do have their first in 2027. I could be patient I’ll take a first in 2027.

 

[Armourboy]

I suspect Nyquist pulls a 2nd from someone, Schenn a mid round pick and McCarron like a 6th.

ROR and Sissons are the ones I think that could really pull something if made available. Those are the kinds of depth guys GM's crave at the deadline.

 

[Soundgarden]

I suspect Nyquist pulls a 2nd from someone, Schenn a mid round pick and McCarron like a 6th.

ROR and Sissons are the ones I think that could really pull something if made available. Those are the kinds of depth guys GM's crave at the deadline.

Exactly my thoughts. Would love to see Nyquist grab a 1st though but will be happy with a 2nd.

 

[Scoresberg]

Watching Edmonton, I think they REALLY need Saros there. Skinner took them to the Cup finals last year, I know, but most nights he looks just awful. Now with Draisaitl losing his shit at him, I have to imagine the Oilers are at least looking around.

Let's hope Trotz is smart enough to at least make the call to Edmonton. They don't have a lot of enticing pieces but getting out of that contract is a win at itself.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Watching Edmonton, I think they REALLY need Saros there. Skinner took them to the Cup finals last year, I know, but most nights he looks just awful. Now with Draisaitl losing his shit at him, I have to imagine the Oilers are at least looking around.

Let's hope Trotz is smart enough to at least make the call to Edmonton. They don't have a lot of enticing pieces but getting out of that contract is a win at itself.

I agree that Edmonton SHOULD want him. They should be at the "All In" stage of things now. They have lived through some horrific goalie contracts in the past. Saros' won't be any worse in Cap dollars 4 or 5 years from now than what they had with Campbell or Koskinen or Talbot or Dubnyk or whoever else they signed that didn't bring them a Cup. But he'll give them something they need desperately for the next 3 or 4 seasons, and they can figure out how to live with the rest of that deal after the parade(s).

But I do not have any hope whatsoever that Trotz will do what he'd need to do here and essentially "dump" Saros. I just can't in my wildest dreams see that happening, alas. He made that bed and he fully intends to sleep in it. So it's totally moot.

 

[herzausstein]

Edmonton needs a goalie upgrade for sure. How they go about doin that with their cap structure is another question.

Theyll need to dump a contract like E. Kane or LTIR him next season to fit another big contract like Saros after they extend Bouchard. They dont have a ton of intriguing prospects either.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Edmonton needs a goalie upgrade for sure. How they go about doin that with their cap structure is another question.

Theyll need to dump a contract like E. Kane or LTIR him next season to fit another big contract like Saros after they extend Bouchard. They dont have a ton of intriguing prospects either.

They'll have over $30M if they send Skinner back in the deal and LTIR/dump Kane. So I think they'll be ok. Bouchard and Saros would easily fit within that, along with some sprinkling of cheaper filler guys.

It doesn't really matter what intriguing prospects they have... I don't think we'd ever be getting anything more than Skinner back for Saros. The ship has sailed on this being anything but a pure contract dump for us. Which of course Trotz would not even consider doing. So. Back to "moot".

 

[herzausstein]

They'll have over $30M if they send Skinner back in the deal and LTIR/dump Kane. So I think they'll be ok. Bouchard and Saros would easily fit within that, along with some sprinkling of cheaper filler guys.

It doesn't really matter what intriguing prospects they have... I don't think we'd ever be getting anything more than Skinner back for Saros. The ship has sailed on this being anything but a pure contract dump for us. Which of course Trotz would not even consider doing. So. Back to "moot".

Yeh trotz isnt going to treat Saros as a dump. Honestly with the way the cap is set to go up over the next 3 offseasons, his contract might be cheap after a couple seasons even if he doesnt bounce back to vezina form.

 

[weeze]

Riddle me this, why is Trotz saying were not tanking when the team acts like their are and after every loss Brunos like we played a prettty good game. When Mac is the only one to score and the fans are like what the F#@$ is going on here.

What are they supposed to say? Yeah we are gonna tank so I am having the guys play like sh!t? The NHL would fine the team and then who would go to the games? It is just GM/Coach speak. Thats all. They know the teams sucks and is circling the drain. Just can't say that though.

 

[herzausstein]

What comes first from Nashville? A trade or Nyquist extension?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

What comes first from Nashville? A trade or Nyquist extension?

I am 60/40 for "extension".