I agree. Would have been great for us to be able to plug a physical, big-bodied centerman in his place to mitigate the loss, but where could we find one of those?
Speculation: Armchair GM Thread
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101st_fan
I taught Yoda
Wants players with some term but not to block younger players? If they have term how is a younger player getting time?
101st_fan
I taught Yoda
One can only assume the young guys he’s referring to are the ones that are still two to three years away from being nhl ready instead of the young guys currently in the ECHL/AHL pipeline.
Get ready for two to three years of suckfest.
Get ready for two to three years of suckfest.
herzausstein
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I cant wait till that Nyquist extension is announced
Trotz thinking about "next year" is both minor progress and such a great example of why he's a bad GM for us right now. Our players are all past their prime. Next year will be worse. We should be planning for a competitive window opening in 2029, not scheming to miss the playoffs by as few points as possible next year.
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Kat Predator
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They're not going to play anyone young. Someone is just enjoying some psychedelics apparently.
I don't think Trotz is dumb enough to think this year is exactly salvageable but I definitely get the feeling he thinks it's a blip and his serial winners will turn it around next year. Doesn't seem to grasp that Father Time is working against his roster.
Bringer of Jollity
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Amazing our media will post that without an ounce of reflection on it (and probably gaslight any fan questioning it as being ignorant and "not getting it," or just irrationally complaining).
herzausstein
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Scoresberg
Perpetual Mediocrity
It literally hurts my head how little all that makes sense. I think Barry doesn't have a grasp even of the basics of team building.
AtlantaWhaler
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Since this is the armchair thread, what I'd do is not trade for anyone over 23-25 and focus mainly on more prospects. Can't have enough in my opinion. We already have vets that can help guide the young'ins. The more high-end prospects and/or young RFA's, the better.
herzausstein
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Im all for taking an expiring contract to help facilitate another teams trade to get some additional draft capital. 2 years on contract max if it is a dumb bottom pairing/bottom 6/capdump contract that our young guys should be able to leap over and we dont mind scratching more often then not.
Porter Stoutheart
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What's a fair contract for Nyquist anyway? Last year's 75 pts was obviously a major aberration, you can't pay him based on that, right? He's more like the sort of Jarnkrok-vanilla guy we've seen this season. Is that worth $3.5M per? 2x$3.5M? That's my prediction.
I think that's in the ballpark of what gets it done. Given that we've traded away most of our forward youth, I'm not opposed to signing him to a 2-year deal, but I wouldn't go beyond that.What's a fair contract for Nyquist anyway? Last year's 75 pts was obviously a major aberration, you can't pay him based on that, right? He's more like the sort of Jarnkrok-vanilla guy we've seen this season. Is that worth $3.5M per? 2x$3.5M? That's my prediction.
If I'm Trotz, since we are accumulating a glut of LHD, I would start looking for opportunities to either bolster our RHD depth or find a promising forward prospect (in order to trade him away, obviously) using one of our young LHD pieces.
Armourboy
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No way I'm bringing Nyquist back. I don't care if I gotta play the zamboni driver I'm not giving another old guy a contract.
Porter Stoutheart
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He's only 35. You sign him for 2 more years, he's only going to be 36 and 37 those years, we'll have lots of guys going past those spring-chicken ages in the next several seasons. And that's only a little term, so it won't block any of our young players from getting a chance either.
herzausstein
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Youll take your disappointment and like it. Nyquist, Schenn, Lauzon, Sissons all gonna get extensions when the time comes.
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Assuming price/term are right, I'd keep Nyquist. Used to love Sissons, but his time has come to see what he can do on another team.
Armourboy
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I don't see much difference between the two other than Nyquist can hit an empty netter to boost his stats.
herzausstein
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I dont know how Trotz can have a clear vision with Bruno as the coach. Talk about wanting to not block the youth.
Last night, the 3 youngest forwards were relegated to about 11 mins of TOI each (Novak, Svechkov, ZLH). Meanwhile, career tweeners Jankowski, Hinostroza, and McCarron all get 2+ extra minutes (minimum) each.... Jank, McCarron got 4. Sissons is a solid 3rd liner but he got 17 minutes.
You cant preach about not blocking the young players while simulatenously sitting by and letting the youth get absolutely screwed on ice time. We have 30 year old players that have bounced between the NHL/AHL that routinely get more ice time then any of our youth. Yesteday is just 1 example.
The core is old in terms of hockey. Our top 6 centers are 34+ which is retirement age for the majority of hockey players. We arent grooming any replacements giving Svechkov and Novak limited opportunities and 11 minutes a night. Nyquist is on an expiring contract and 35.
Trotz and Burno need to pick a story and stick to it. Just say what we are doing - gonna get a bunch of aging vets and not let the youth take over unless absolutely necessary. Ill hate every second of that plan but atleast it is a coherent vision.
Last night, the 3 youngest forwards were relegated to about 11 mins of TOI each (Novak, Svechkov, ZLH). Meanwhile, career tweeners Jankowski, Hinostroza, and McCarron all get 2+ extra minutes (minimum) each.... Jank, McCarron got 4. Sissons is a solid 3rd liner but he got 17 minutes.
You cant preach about not blocking the young players while simulatenously sitting by and letting the youth get absolutely screwed on ice time. We have 30 year old players that have bounced between the NHL/AHL that routinely get more ice time then any of our youth. Yesteday is just 1 example.
The core is old in terms of hockey. Our top 6 centers are 34+ which is retirement age for the majority of hockey players. We arent grooming any replacements giving Svechkov and Novak limited opportunities and 11 minutes a night. Nyquist is on an expiring contract and 35.
Trotz and Burno need to pick a story and stick to it. Just say what we are doing - gonna get a bunch of aging vets and not let the youth take over unless absolutely necessary. Ill hate every second of that plan but atleast it is a coherent vision.
