Armchair GM - 2025 Offseason Thread

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I used to think Kuraly was gone, but now I think they’ll bring him back. 4th line center who can win face offs and occasionally play up in the line up? I bet we offer him 1 x $2ish million. Maybe he takes it. Maybe someone offers 2 x $2 million but maybe not. If we offer $2.2 million and he doesn’t have to move and someone else offers a multi year contract for less than $2 million per season, maybe he bets on himself and stays.
 
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Well Great season! everyone thought we were in the race for a top pick, proved them wrong. this team has a lot of fight. I'm not sure what Dons plan is.

this summer:


sign voronkov to a 3-4 year deal 5m range ?

sign Fabbro -5 year deal 4-5m range ?

let danforth, kuraly kunin labanc, JJ, tarasov and provorov walk


I'm okay if we trade

Sillinger, Chiankov, Elvis and our two first round picks
 
Well Great season! everyone thought we were in the race for a top pick, proved them wrong. this team has a lot of fight. I'm not sure what Dons plan is.

this summer:


sign voronkov to a 3-4 year deal 5m range ?

sign Fabbro -5 year deal 4-5m range ?

let danforth, kuraly kunin labanc, JJ, tarasov and provorov walk


I'm okay if we trade

Sillinger, Chiankov, Elvis and our two first round picks
I’d like Danforth’s back for 4th line duty. He offers good 4th line offense, is effective at faceoffs, and will accept a team friendly deal.
 
We are gonna have to cast aside more than just Kunin, Fischer, Labanc, and JJ to improve the team. I know we're hearing from multiple poster with individual priorities. I'm just setting myself up for an interesting offseason.

Up front we don't have to change much to improve the team. We just had the #1 5v5 offense in the league, and that's with many guys who can still take a step or have better health next year.

The big vacancies are on defense and that will probably be what decides whether we take a step. What is our right side D going to look like? Will we have any top 4 caliber RD?
 
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Up front we don't have to change much to improve the team. We just had the #1 5v5 offense in the league, and that's with many guys who can still take a step or have better health next year.

The big vacancies are on defense and that will probably be what decides whether we take a step. What is our right side D going to look like? Will we have any top 4 caliber RD?
Completely agree. We can be pretty sure they won't take another step up front like they did this year. They should still improve, but the reality (in my opinion) is the offensive ability on this team is quite good. If the GAA comes down even further next year and the offense stays at the same level or improves even slightly...that's a playoff team and one that likely can push some clubs. The defense and overall defending will need to improve and the goaltending needs to be better than average. Maybe Jet is part of the answer, but not something I am ready to hang my hat on...yet.

Even minor improvement could have this team looking at a Metro title. I think NJD is the biggest obstacle but none of the other teams scare me at this point - and I don't think the Caps maintain this level of play. Not counting on it, but seems more likely than not after watching this team rebound late in the year under pressure.
 
Trading Chinakhov right now would be a monumental mistake. His trade value is extremely low. They need to focus on getting his health in check.

You just don’t let a player who’s ranking top 10 in speed and shot power and getting paid next to nothing go for peanuts
Yeah, the only way it makes sense is if he was unhappy with his playing time when he recovered and wants a trade.
 
Trading Chinakhov right now would be a monumental mistake. His trade value is extremely low. They need to focus on getting his health in check.

You just don’t let a player who’s ranking top 10 in speed and shot power and getting paid next to nothing go for peanuts
I could not agree more. He has friends here, has shown potential, and isn't 100% needed but would be an awesome bonus piece if he's healthy. We watched Luke Kunin play, we need bodies that are NHL level.
 
Trading Chinakhov right now would be a monumental mistake. His trade value is extremely low. They need to focus on getting his health in check.

You just don’t let a player who’s ranking top 10 in speed and shot power and getting paid next to nothing go for peanuts
Currently I don't have a strong opinion about Chinakhov and what should be done with him, but I find it kind of funny that some young players always seem to be untradable for some fans. Yesterday we couldn't trade the guy because he's just about to heat up. Today we can't trade him because of the dropped value. I wonder what will be the reasons tomorrow.
 
Currently I don't have a strong opinion about Chinakhov and what should be done with him, but I find it kind of funny that some young players always seem to be untradable for some fans. Yesterday we couldn't trade the guy because he's just about to heat up. Today we can't trade him because of the dropped value. I wonder what will be the reasons tomorrow.
Chinakhov has shown he could be one of the best players on the team when healthy which he displayed early in this season.

There’s a ton of players that showed no potential and could be dealt before him if we have to trade someone.
 
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Chinakhov has shown he could be one of the best players on the team when healthy which he displayed early in this season.

There’s a ton of players that showed no potential and could be dealt before him if we have to trade someone.
I've also seen the potential in him but I also feel like there's some kind of logical fallacy going on here if you first argue that his value is extremely low and then say he's got more potential than so many others. If a team sees potential in a player, how can their value be equal to "peanuts"?
 
I've also seen the potential in him but I also feel like there's some kind of logical fallacy going on here if you first argue that his value is extremely low and then say he's got more potential than so many others. If a team sees potential in a player, how can their value be equal to "peanuts"?
I mean his value to other teams, they see him as an injury prone player that might have underachieved and won’t offer much. So, if Columbus decides they have to trade him no matter what, they will get said “peanuts”
 
I know JJ and Gudbranson weren't together for most of the bad stretch but it's symbolic of the 3rd pair problem that plagued the team. Severson was not part of the problem either, he was the only player that kept the 3rd pair afloat at points.

Our goals results by defenseman:

Jack Johnson 18 GF 33 GA
Erik Gudbranson 15 GF 13 GA
Damon Severson 57 GF 55 GA

Surprisingly not bad for Gudbranson, who started off underwater. The late season winning streak was fine with him on the ice. He was -5 until 4 games ago and +7 in the last 4 games.

I've also seen the potential in him but I also feel like there's some kind of logical fallacy going on here if you first argue that his value is extremely low and then say he's got more potential than so many others. If a team sees potential in a player, how can their value be equal to "peanuts"?

I don't think the value is commensurate with the potential with a player like Chinakhov. If we're in trade talks with a team and we are willing to include him in the deal, then the other club certainly has to ask themselves why. Are his injuries something that can't be overcome? If they can be overcome then why are the Jackets willing to move him?

What feels like a logical fallacy to me is when we have a player have an injury problem, we suddenly get a lot of posters talking about why we should trade him, as if that player didn't just see their trade value plummet.
 
What feels like a logical fallacy to me is when we have a player have an injury problem, we suddenly get a lot of posters talking about why we should trade him, as if that player didn't just see their trade value plummet.
It’s a similar situation with Lindstrom. I bet some folks already writing him off as a terrible pick at 4
 
I don't think the value is commensurate with the potential with a player like Chinakhov. If we're in trade talks with a team and we are willing to include him in the deal, then the other club certainly has to ask themselves why. Are his injuries something that can't be overcome? If they can be overcome then why are the Jackets willing to move him?

What feels like a logical fallacy to me is when we have a player have an injury problem, we suddenly get a lot of posters talking about why we should trade him, as if that player didn't just see their trade value plummet.
I thought @ViD 's original post was about trading Chinakhov in general, but apparently it meant these forced trade type of scenarios where the other team is desperately trying to get rid of the player for anything. Those you typically end up losing and therefore they don't make much sense unless the player is too expensive and/or locker room problem. I guess I wasn't able to make correct interpretation of the post because I didn't see any poster suggesting that we HAVE to trade him.

CBJ will of course likely get less for often-injured player like Chinakhov if they are the ones actively selling him to other team, but if it's the other way around, I don't know why we should systematically say no to everything because "potential", "too low value" etc.
 
One of Severson / Gudbranson has to go. Both are 3rd pair RD at best on Evasons team.

Guddy being in the "leadership group" and Severson being in the "healthy scratch department" gives you a hint who goes if plan A is possible and who goes if plan A is not possible.
 
I thought @ViD 's original post was about trading Chinakhov in general, but apparently it meant these forced trade type of scenarios where the other team is desperately trying to get rid of the player for anything. Those you typically end up losing and therefore they don't make much sense unless the player is too expensive and/or locker room problem. I guess I wasn't able to make correct interpretation of the post because I didn't see any poster suggesting that we HAVE to trade him.

CBJ will of course likely get less for often-injured player like Chinakhov if they are the ones actively selling him to other team, but if it's the other way around, I don't know why we should systematically say no to everything because "potential", "too low value" etc.

Yeah if we get a call from Lou or some GM targeting Chinakhov, that's different. But there are posters specifically saying that we should trade Chinakhov BECAUSE of his injury issue, the very reason why we would get so much less for him.
 
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We are gonna have to cast aside more than just Kunin, Fischer, Labanc, and JJ to improve the team. I know we're hearing from multiple poster with individual priorities. I'm just setting myself up for an interesting offseason.
Agree with subtractions and that others will have to go too.

My untouchables are Marchenko,Fantilli,KJ, Monahan, Werenski, Mateychuk, and Olivier.

Rather nots include Voronkov & Chinakov.

Anyone else, including Jenner and the two 1sts are trade candidates.

Top UFA targets for me are Gavrikov, Ehlers & Nelson. Pionk and Ekblad are the top 2 UFA RD.
 
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Agree with subtractions and that others will have to go too.

My untouchables are Marchenko,Fantilli,KJ, Monahan, Werenski, Mateychuk, and Olivier.

Rather nots include Voronkov & Chinakov.

Anyone else, including Jenner and the two 1sts are trade candidates.

Top UFA targets for me are Gavrikov, Ehlers & Nelson. Pionk and Ekblad are the top 2 UFA RD.
Pionk resigned today
 
Our goals results by defenseman:

Jack Johnson 18 GF 33 GA
Erik Gudbranson 15 GF 13 GA
Damon Severson 57 GF 55 GA
Sickening. If all of Johnson's minutes this season were replaced by someone NHL level then I wholeheartedly believe we'd be in the playoffs. Marchenko, Werenski and Monahan deserve better, they did their part. Clock is ticking, our stars are in their primes. The window really needs to open next season.
 

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