Armchair GM 2024-25 Season, Craig Conroy's Can Do Calgary Flames
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Bourque would be a good-ish option, but I still think he’s the most over rated prospect on these boards. Draft +3 season in the AHL he had 43 points in 70 games, that’s worse than all of Pelletier, Zary, Coronato, and Stromgrens production, and likely won’t beat Honzek’s next year either. Then had a strong draft +4 in the AHL when Stankoven was introduced, but now in his 23 year old season he has pretty terrible numbers again
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Bourque is a January baby so like with Parekh for next season, he wasn't able to enter the AHL until his D+3 season. Zary being born in September of 2001 was already in his 2nd year of pro hockey that season.
Bourque is having a solid rookie season in the NHL and will probably be a middle 6er long term. If the cost to snipe him from Dallas is a 1st then Calgary should avoid it but if it only costs a 2nd then I think they should absolutely look at it
Exactly, and for a player who entered the AHL in his draft +3 his numbers were fairly bad. Players of his calibre usually have much better production, Pelletier and Coronato walked in at roughly point per game, and for reference Stankoven waltzed into the same situation the next season to the tune of 57 points in 47 games. He was just one of the most hyped names on HFboards and he is still riding that wave, but yea it’s hard to see much high end potential from his first 3 seasons pro. We also don’t really have the room to use on him, and other than insane junior production he doesn’t offer much more than our current batch of young guys do so I don’t see the value in him being the main target if we are using offer sheets.
Volica
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If I were in Conroy's shoes, I'd really set the table with a:
"Let's make a trade here, win-win for everyone; if not, I'm sending a 4 million dollar deal down the pike for this kid".
Dallas doesn't have the cap to deal with that. I honestly think a Coleman (50%) for Bourque and Dumba with additions on either side to make everyone happy makes a lot of sense for both clubs. Gets Dallas out of a contract they don't need, gets Calgary a 23 year old with some upside (maybe a good linemate for Huberdeau?) and gives Dallas a legit player and cap they could use to re-sign Granlund or the Duche.
Ledge And Dairy
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Unfortunately Calgary is not the only team that will be looking to offer sheet him. Also offer sheets are a completely empty threat, the player has to want to sign it.
As for your trade value, the add from Dallas better be good. Coleman at 50% for 2 years is worth a lot more than a 2nd
I think that's the idea. Probably half a dozen team would consider Bourque for $4 million/2nd, so Coleman @50% could potentially be a top offer.
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If I was Conroy, I’d be absolutely pissed. Did his job and got two good middle 6ers for pennies to support the playoff push. Meanwhile, his head coach was only able to get 5 goals out of them combined.
One guy goes from 0.5 ppg to 0.33 ppg, and the other guy only notches 1 assist every 10 games. As a GM, why would I trust a guy to use Parekh when he can’t even manage new depth players
One guy goes from 0.5 ppg to 0.33 ppg, and the other guy only notches 1 assist every 10 games. As a GM, why would I trust a guy to use Parekh when he can’t even manage new depth players
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Volica
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Throwback to the shade I ate last summer from this board when I said Huska is a mediocre, stop-gap coach.
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Stoke me a clipper.
He's only keeping Iggy's seat warm.
He's done well to get this roster this far, all things considered.
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I’ve long thought this too. If Iggy was so passionate about management, he would have found a way to get involved in a way without Conroy. All of his post-retirement work until now has been in coaching and I think he’ll be behind the bench in about 2 years
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Seeing this fanbase turn on Iggy as coach would break my heart.
We already have Conroy as GM and Iggy as his special advisor. Would be some real OBC shit to give Iggy an NHL coaching job just because he’s a franchise legend.
We already have Conroy as GM and Iggy as his special advisor. Would be some real OBC shit to give Iggy an NHL coaching job just because he’s a franchise legend.
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I don't want to see Iggy run a different path than Gelinas. Behind the bench in 2 years as AC? Sure. Kinda like Savard. But HC? Hell no.
Conroy paid his dues for like a decade before becoming GM. Huska as well.
Nothing about huska has ever said hes a good long term coach. Sutters last year was so awful where everything that couldve gone wrong went wrong, yet that was the closest they ever got to the playoffs. Next yr, markstrom plays better, kadri plays better, and the vibes were "sooo great".....team perform much worse on the ice. Fast forward to this year where the team has blew numerous 3 period leads by turtling, and is the worst goal scoring team in the league, these are coaching issues. id be fine if hes gone next yr, we simply cant not bring back the same fwd core and coaching staff that finished last in GF, and i dont think conroy wants to move any fwds.
On the flip side, this roster has 7 players who potted 20 goals in their previous 2-3 seasons, and 9 if you lower that number to 19 to include Backlund and Frost. Only 2 of those 9 names are likely hitting 15 goals this season, or in Frost or Farabee case on pace for 15.
I think we are one additional top 4 defenseman away from having a solid group again with Weegar, Andersson, and Bahl. If we go out and get one which I think is relatively likely, and with Wolf as our goalie, there isn’t much excuse to keep sacrificing offense in our playstyle. I think we are due for some heavy positive regression anyways, but if Huska can’t figure out to get the offense even just as far as most of the players have proven capable before, I don’t think he should last much longer than next season. I also think that if a big name becomes available you think about making the switch regardless.
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Now that playoffs are a long shot I do think Conroys gotta expect the trajectory to be downward going into next year, even if they get a FO specialist RHC and top 4 LD in Free agency.
Scoring was putrid even with strong years from Kadri/Huberdeau. I’ve been on the sign Andersson train but I am now thinking otherwise.
I’d keep husksa for another season
Scoring was putrid even with strong years from Kadri/Huberdeau. I’ve been on the sign Andersson train but I am now thinking otherwise.
I’d keep husksa for another season
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Re Andersson folks...
It's obvious we need to ship before TDL, let's dress him as our top PP guy with the hope this will boost his numbers and confidence.
Weegar can take a season off from the top PP duty. He will understand we are trying to improve our team.
It's obvious we need to ship before TDL, let's dress him as our top PP guy with the hope this will boost his numbers and confidence.
Weegar can take a season off from the top PP duty. He will understand we are trying to improve our team.
He should be gone before the TDL. We want to finish bottom 3 next year because the drop-off after Roobroeck at center is massive. Shipping Andersson at the draft should weaken our team enough to ensure a solid draft position and maximize the value we get from the deal. It would be an organizational blunder to not dish him asap, imo.
Priority 1 is obviously McKenna, #2 is Roobroeck
Priority 1 is obviously McKenna, #2 is Roobroeck
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We’re gonna get McKenna next year
Cuz when the Flames do get a generational player it’ll be a LW
Cuz when the Flames do get a generational player it’ll be a LW
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Say what you will about the other issues, but worst goal scoring team in the league, is his fault? Have you seen our roster? Seriously?
I like Wolf a lot and think he is going to be a top 5 goalie BUT it really wouldn't take much and through no fault of his to shift his win loss record to generate a bottom 3 finish especially if:
Goals against go up due to a weakening of the defensive depth due to
- Andersson or the Flames decide its time for him to move on
- Backlund loses yet another step.
Goals for goes from worst to even worse due to
- Kadri/Huberdeau/Backlund/Coleman start to really show their age or in Huberdeau's case prove this season was an illusion.
- Sharangovich/Frost/Farabee/Zary prove to be closer to 3rd line than top 6 forwards
have you seen how he coaches when the score is tied or when the Flames have a 1 goal lead? The only time the Flames show any sort of offensive flair and freedom is when they are down by 2 going into the 3rd.
Ledge And Dairy
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Bjorck is in the same tier as Roobroeck.
Also worth noting McKenna has played primarily on the wing all season. Hopefully he switches to center for his draft year.
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Look, I agree to an extent. But you look at this roster, and tell me we're supposed to be better than bottom 5 for scoring? I'm going to disagree with you. On top of a defense that is probably on paper worst in the league too.
