Speculation: Armchair GM 2024-25 Season, Craig Conroy's Can Do Calgary Flames

[Ledge And Dairy]

i feel like we need to trade a fwd or 2, we have sooooo many middle 6 guys and it blocks the AHL guys as well. only rooney is a ufa from the current fwd group, and we should prob sign a 4th line c to replace him. i think we should prob look in to moving one of farabee, sharangovich (pain) or coleman, of those 3 coleman is the only one i think would garner much interests.
offersheeting mavrik bouque to the max 2nd round pick comp should be something else we look into as well, but that would create more log jams.

I brought it up here but I have a feeling there will be more than a few teams that look into signing him to an OS. Philly seems like an obvious one. Chicago I could see too

 

[Lunatik]

I brought it up here but I have a feeling there will be more than a few teams that look into signing him to an OS. Philly seems like an obvious one. Chicago I could see too

That's why we should trade for him before he can be given an offer sheet. Ras @ 50% probably gets it done because of the risk of an OS

 

[crackdown44]

It might just be a new team bump but it appears I may have been wrong about Cozens and he might just be that stereotypical Buffalo guy that becomes good once he leaves

Only been 3 games but he’s been great in Ottawa so far

 

[Volica]

It might just be a new team bump but it appears I may have been wrong about Cozens and he might just be that stereotypical Buffalo guy that becomes good once he leaves

Only been 3 games but he’s been great in Ottawa so far

I think it's become pretty obvious you can't judge anyone on teams like Buffalo.
Where I personally think Calgary gets guys to overperform (minus the guy we apparently threw 10M+ at), teams like Buffalo rarely get guys performing at their level.

Like, if Dahlin legit leaves, he's going to viewed completely differently than he currently is. He'll be in the mix for Norris trophies the second he leaves.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

That's why we should trade for him before he can be given an offer sheet. Ras @ 50% probably gets it done because of the risk of an OS

An OS cost a 2nd. Ras at 50% is worth a lot more than that.

 

[Lunatik]

An OS cost a 2nd. Ras at 50% is worth a lot more than that.

Yes, but we'd have competition for the OS. It's better to pay more than the OS cost to be the team to own is rights and be able to match an OS (although we're not prime targets with all our space) and guarantee we actually get him

 

[crazyfisherman]

Farabee you don’t move until you see if you can re-discover his offense, he’s young enough to be part of the retool and I still think he can rebuild his game after not meshing with torts. Sharangovich you just straight up don’t move unless he bounces back. I agree he’s expendable but rebuild his value before sending him off.

Coleman and/or Backlund you retain 50% on and get a not bad haul. Easy to move/retain contracts who still have value and are extremely easy to add for contenders.

Either way, we are in no rush to move out players. Our forwards slot well enough when Pospisil gets swapped with Zary for the 4th line, and we don’t really have any high impact forwards banging on the door yet. I’m in the minority who still isn’t Kerins biggest fan and think he only has a chance at maybe ending up a vanilla 3rd liner (a downgrade on anyone we would trade to make room), and Stromgren’s probably next up trying to win a middle 6 spot but he hasn’t forced any hands yet. No one else is currently ready pending big off season development. We have time, still only the first year of the retool. Any trades we’d make would hopefully be offset by adding impact forwards on the market honestly.

Huberdeau-Kadri-Coronato
Sharangovich-Zary-Farabee
X-Frost-Pospisil

With X being Kerins, Stromgren, maybe Gridin? It’s already relatively barebones after just moving 2 names. Most of our impact forwards are still atleast a year+ away in Suniev, Gridin, Honzek, Basha, and Battaglia.

This offseason I think you move Backlund so we can simultaneously develop Frost and Zary at centre to see if we have a future top 6 C in either of them. Other than that, our prospect pool is kind’ve too young to accommodate much more, without the blue chippers at forward who could make the jump early.

Its more so that they cannot run back the same fwds that are literally scoring the fewest GF per game, you can live with it if they are young, but not when they are mostly 25+ yrs old. Backlund should stay unless he requests it, hes earned it, and thinking about it backs on the 4th line next yr works too. I want to see space where stromgren or kerins can at least compete for a spot next yr but i just dont see a ton of space because everyones signed.

Yes, but we'd have competition for the OS. It's better to pay more than the OS cost to be the team to own is rights and be able to match an OS (although we're not prime targets with all our space) and guarantee we actually get him

Teams just seem to shy away from offersheets, there was no competition for broberg and holloway. A trade would be something like bourque+dumba for a 2nd or something. Dumba cost a pick to dump, bourque gets a bit more value than the 2nd from the offersheet.

 

[rockymtnoyster]

 

[Lunatik]

Teams just seem to shy away from offersheets, there was no competition for broberg and holloway. A trade would be something like bourque+dumba for a 2nd or something. Dumba cost a pick to dump, bourque gets a bit more value than the 2nd from the offersheet.

I honestly don't believe that to be true. I think they are rare because teams will match unless they can't, it more or less limits the contract to 5 years (longer than 5 years sees the total still divided by 5 when calculating compensation)... and most importantly, the player has to want to sign it and join your team. It's not worth it for older RFAs because an offer sheet would take them to UFA, so it needs to be the perfect storm of a young RFA willing to go elsewhere for more of an opportunity.

 

[Volica]

I brought it up here but I have a feeling there will be more than a few teams that look into signing him to an OS. Philly seems like an obvious one. Chicago I could see too

If I were Conroy and was interested in this kid (which I assume he would be given the handedness and position), I'd just get ahead of the lineup once the season concludes.

Dumba + Bourque for Coleman (50%) + Mid round pick.
For a team in a competitive window a guy, like Coleman would have a lot of value, you dump Dumba's contract which will be desperately needed, you add a legit middle 6 winger for 2.45M. Checks boxes for both clubs; and being in the position of 'we might lose this guy for a second round pick' or 'we'll be in a cap nightmare and will likely have to dump guys we don't want to for nothing' isn't advantageous for Dallas when you're in win-now.

There's no way they want to walk away from Granlund and Duchene, but they might have to pick one. Having Coleman backfill eases the burden, and gives you more wiggle room when he comes off the books with Harley and Robertson needing new ink.

 

[Zirakzigil]

How dare they treat Vladar like that!