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ARI 3 - LAK 2: Nick Nickson >>>>> Dick Dickson

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Trolfoli said:
Don't worry, I'm sure the Kings have plenty buffer built up in the standings by the time playoffs come around.

Solid strategy to pull your goalie with the 4th line out.
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No need to be condescending, I watched last year with you.

Losses are going to happen, even ugly ones. Still sitting pretty near the top of the Pacific and we'll even get some loser points at some point, too.
 
Brad Doty said:
No need to be condescending, I watched last year with you.

Losses are going to happen, even ugly ones. Still sitting pretty near the top of the Pacific and we'll even get some loser points at some point, too.
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Gotta think that 3on3 will be kinder to us then the shootout.
 
scryan said:
Meh, I'd like Quick to get that one that McNabb setup... Though I guess you could argue he knew we had it and was a little to relaxed. The others weren't overly bad on him.
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i didn't mean it that way, Quick was ok tonight

but given the way he played the first time around vs ARZ

and given that we're assuming ARZ isn't a playoff team

and given that the coach wants 2 wins out of ARZ and NYI

and given that our backup has played only 2 games so far

and given that last game Quick wasn't the sharpest on the ice

it seems that all logic would have dictated that Enroth gets the start tonight and Quick on thursday vs a non-divisional team, without any added pressure and slowly build Quick's confidence back up

the only argument for starting Quick tonight is that ARZ is a divisional game, if that's the case, i'm seriously hoping Enroth plays the Islanders on thursday

but even then...ARZ is familiar with Quick just like how NYI is familiar with Enroth

why not shake things up and peg Enroth vs ARZ and Quick vs NYI

it seems so logical
 
I don't think anyone is saying the sky is falling, but the Kings have some issues on the back end. We are getting great play from Doughty, Martinez, Muzzin and McBain but the other guys just can't go a game without messing up. Forbort has been ok in limited time, but it should scare the crap out of anyone knowing we are an injury away from having two of McNabb, Greene or Errorhoff in the lineup. And while McBain has been fantastic, he could easily return to the defensive disaster from last year.
 
KingPuckChoo said:
i didn't mean it that way, Quick was ok tonight

but given the way he played the first time around vs ARZ

and given that we're assuming ARZ isn't a playoff team

and given that the coach wants 2 wins out of ARZ and NYI

and given that our backup has played only 2 games so far

and given that last game Quick wasn't the sharpest on the ice

it seems that all logic would have dictated that Enroth gets the start tonight and Quick on thursday vs a non-divisional team, without any added pressure and slowly build Quick's confidence back up

the only argument for starting Quick tonight is that ARZ is a divisional game, if that's the case, i'm seriously hoping Enroth plays the Islanders on thursday

but even then...ARZ is familiar with Quick just like how NYI is familiar with Enroth

why not shake things up and peg Enroth vs ARZ and Quick vs NYI

it seems so logical
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Because we were 8-2 in our last 10 so why rock the boat? Not that playing Enroth is rocking the boat per se, your reasoning is fine, but start your starter, I can understand why. No need to "shake things up."

Herby said:
I don't think anyone is saying the sky is falling, but the Kings have some issues on the back end. We are getting great play from Doughty, Martinez, Muzzin and McBain but the other guys just can't go a game without messing up. Forbort has been ok in limited time, but it should scare the crap out of anyone knowing we are an injury away from having two of McNabb, Greene or Errorhoff in the lineup. And while McBain has been fantastic, he could easily return to the defensive disaster from last year.
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McNabb has been great until tonight, too, playing hard minutes with Doughty every night, but we're collectively forgetting that because of his Muzzin special night.

I agree that we need another top 4 guy but 1. it's not super urgent yet and 2. my bigger point is that we're collectively overreacting to one (albeit ugly) loss.
 
Yuck, caught the 3rd, wish i'd missed it. I thought we were supposed to win the next four games:help:
 
KingPuckChoo said:
i didn't mean it that way, Quick was ok tonight

but given the way he played the first time around vs ARZ

and given that we're assuming ARZ isn't a playoff team

and given that the coach wants 2 wins out of ARZ and NYI

and given that our backup has played only 2 games so far

and given that last game Quick wasn't the sharpest on the ice

it seems that all logic would have dictated that Enroth gets the start tonight and Quick on thursday vs a non-divisional team, without any added pressure and slowly build Quick's confidence back up

the only argument for starting Quick tonight is that ARZ is a divisional game, if that's the case, i'm seriously hoping Enroth plays the Islanders on thursday

but even then...ARZ is familiar with Quick just like how NYI is familiar with Enroth

why not shake things up and peg Enroth vs ARZ and Quick vs NYI

it seems so logical
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We play our starter, and will again on Thursday.
I'm not recalling specifics... But don't think there were issues with him last time either.

But really, if its not back to backs... It just will be Quick. We could probably make a sticky posts about that for the fantasy kids that drop in throughout the week to find out if Quick is starting.

I wouldn't be against Enroth starting, he has proven to be very good... But I don't think there has been a need to not play Quick since the beginning of the season.

And we are not, and wont be a 1A, 1B team...



I'll throw in, McNabb playing big minutes is more then we should expect. What is his contract now?
He has held it the **** down in all honesty, more then should be expected and **** happens.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Like Shore with an open look right in the middle of the ice in the 2nd right after Toffoli's goal.
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Yeah the replay showed he shot it right where Smith was, not were he wasn't. He picks any 3/4 part of the net it's a goal.

Also I'm glad he called out Kopitars soft board play tonight, especially on the last goal. He should not get beat by a guy that's 5-10" 150lbs along the boards...EVER! One of the few times he's called the team soft, which they were.
 
Brad Doty said:
No need to be condescending, I watched last year with you.

Losses are going to happen, even ugly ones. Still sitting pretty near the top of the Pacific and we'll even get some loser points at some point, too.
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:laugh: I'm just grumpy... Trolled by Sutter after watching the Kings blow that.

I don't think people are over reacting. The Kings have been playing very well with the holes they have. Pretty much 1 line producing, Shaky defense. Shore/Andy as the 3C. Winning or losing a game doesn't change that the lineup has some needs.
 
Half of the Cryotes points have come against the Kings and Ducks.First time in their history they've swept both teams away. At least the Ducks got the loser point.
 
Thank you, McNabb, for single-handedly handing that POS team the victory tonight.

Goal numbers 1 and 3 were totally on him. Total brain fart both times. **** me.

Another wasted trip out to Staples. That sucked.

Oh, also Kings: games last 60 minutes, not 30.
 
In games at home against Pacific teams:

0-4
4 GF, 1 gpg
15 GA, 3.75 gpg

In games anywhere else against anyone else:

9-2
33 GF, 3 gpg
17 GA, 1.55 gpg

Outshot Arizona 76-47 in 2 home games, but outscored 7-3. Toffoli, of course, has 2 of the goals, one on the PP, and one SH. The Coyotes have outscored them 7-1, while the Kings have outshot them 63-38, at ES. That's a .984sv% for Smith, and a .816sv% for Quick. A lot of turnovers and deflections in those 7 goals.
 
Quick question: is there a specific reason why Ehrhoff is not playing? Is he hurt?
 
I didnt see the game and went to bed.

I was thinking it would not surprise me the Kings would lose with 3-2.

Your typical outcome in a Coyotes game and look what happened.
 
So uhhhh about that penalty shot?

67.4 Penalty Shot - If a defending player, except a goalkeeper, while play is in progress, falls on the puck, holds the puck, picks up the puck, or gathers the puck into his body or hands from the ice in the goal crease area, the play shall be stopped immediately and a penalty shot shall be awarded to the non-offending team.

:sarcasm:

TheHoff said:
Quick question: is there a specific reason why Ehrhoff is not playing? Is he hurt?
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Did you see how bad he was the last game he played?
 
Nose of Sutter said:
I think he got shaken up on the Ribero hit from last weekend if I remember correctly, but he's also just flat out sucked as well
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Thanks. Couldn't be any worse than the pass to the slot (aka Martin Hanzal) from behind the net by McNabb though... :laugh:
 
MynameisKing said:
How many of these "Just one of those games" the Kings are gonna have this year?
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Starting to feel like years past, at least. They're straight up molesting teams in terms of possession.

Unfortunately, like last year, too many lapses become too many losses and the playoffs drift away.
 
Brad Doty said:
Am I the only one that thought Clifford going out was Sutter's way of telling the rest of the forwards they sucked tonight? :dunno:

It's a loss, they're going to happen. It's only our 6th of the season. I don't know why the sky is falling in here.
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Clifford was the only guy that was really retrieving the puck in the offensive zone after it had been lost. I imagine Sutter's thinking was that the Kings weren't going to score if they lost the puck and couldn't retrieve it.

Plus, Clifford does go to the front of the net. I was fine with this decision for last night's game.

The Pacific Division is really bad this season, which may be giving us a false sense of security.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
In games at home against Pacific teams:

0-4
4 GF, 1 gpg
15 GA, 3.75 gpg

In games anywhere else against anyone else:

9-2
33 GF, 3 gpg
17 GA, 1.55 gpg

Outshot Arizona 76-47 in 2 home games, but outscored 7-3. Toffoli, of course, has 2 of the goals, one on the PP, and one SH. The Coyotes have outscored them 7-1, while the Kings have outshot them 63-38, at ES. That's a .984sv% for Smith, and a .816sv% for Quick. A lot of turnovers and deflections in those 7 goals.
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This trends needs to end
 
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