Are we in Canada paranoid about 2026 or should we not be worried?

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A buddy of mine and I did a mock list of the 2026 Canadian Olympic team. I will say one thing, when Canada had 50-60% of the NHLers instead of, say, 40-45% they do in 2024 the names rolled off of your tongue a little easier. But we still put together a pretty good team for Canada in 2026:

Hyman-McDavid-Marner
Byfield-MacKinnon-Point
Reinhart-Bedard-Stamkos
Marchand-Crosby-Stone
Suzuki/Barzal

Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Rielly-Bouchard
Dobson-Power

Hill
Jarry
Binnington/Skinner
(Hart, we'll see how things work out for him)


The names aren't really up for debate so much, we all do this on other threads, but it is just a bit of a base for you to see. Things can change, Lafreniere could really bust out, as could another draftee from 2020-'23 like Fantilli or so other names. To be honest there are a lot coming up the pipe right now where we are in a bit of a transition seeing some of the old guard leaving. It is hard to imagine some of them Olympians today, but in 2 years I think so.

But we both sort of felt that perhaps 10, 15, 20 years ago the names would have come easier for us to think about. You look at the defense of the 2002 team and it is incredible. 2010 had a wicked defense, 2014 did, 2016 did. Players like Letang never got on these teams. Even in net when Roy backed out in 2002 we had Brodeur, Joseph and Belfour. No problems there. Also there were legit guys like Burke, Potvin, Luongo, Theodore, Turco and even Osgood who could have easily been a legit 3rd stringer.

Now, with all of that being said, once we started comparing the Canadian roster to the ones of other countries there was a lot more optimism. Sweden, Czech and Finland all have plenty of holes in their rosters and don't have the star power or depth of Canada. Russia I personally hope is back to playing as it is not the same without them, but as usual their defense is suspect at best, and I was surprised that their forwards weren't as dangerous of a group as I thought they might be. As for goaltending, no contest for them. They beat any other country hands down with this. Vasi, Shesterkin and Bobrovsky are better than any of our best. But the team in front of them wouldn't be able to handle Canada's firepower.

That leaves the U.S. team, and a team that I will admit is closing the gap. The Americans' goalies trump ours. But our forwards are deeper and definitely have more high end to them. Imagine having McDavid, MacKinnon, Bedard and even Crosby as the lines you can roll down the middle. Imagine not finding room for Scheifele (although he could make it), Marchand (perhaps) and others. Marchand could be too old by then and not able to keep up, but there are plenty coming down the pipe that are replacing him. Even the defense, I think we have the best defense out of anyone, even the U.S. I think it relies heavily on Makar for instance and we don't have another guy like him, but who does? I like Quinn Hughes on the U.S. but I still take Makar.

Bottom line what I am saying is we as Canadians get this feeling that things are over for us. I don't know why, but we always do. And yet every other country would kill to have that roster and would freak out to be playing against that group of forwards and mobile defense on the back end. All of our goalies are good capable goalies, maybe not Vezina winners, but there won't be a shortage of at least good goalies to choose from. That's all we need.

The 2023 draft was Canadian-laden, the 2024 draft especially in the 1st round is at least half Canadians, and the 2020-'23 drafts have been loaded with talent that will be on these teams. Players we aren't thinking about yet too.

So do we get paranoid in Canada over this stuff too much? Not that we can't improve our program or anything but do we worry about it too much? I can already name for sure at least 10 players on that Canadian team destined for the Hall of Fame.

Suzuki, Marchand and Byfield are not Top-13 forwards on Canada. Even Stamkos seem to be on the verge of decline. Many other guys to consider

Robert Thomas
Mark Scheifele
Travis Konecny
Brandon Hagel
Dylan Strome
Carter Verhaeghe
Matt Duchene
Jared McCann
Seth Jarvis
Bo Horvat
Drake Batherson
Jordan Kyrou

Thomas definitely should be on the team and Strome is trending. Rest is up for discussion but I think Scheifele and Konecny are favorites

That said, wouldn't be surprising if they opt for experience in Marchand and Stamkos
 
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Suzuki, Marchand and Byfield are not Top-13 forwards on Canada. Even Stamkos seem to be on the verge of decline. Many other guys to consider

Robert Thomas
Mark Scheifele
Travis Konecny
Brandon Hagel
Dylan Strome
Carter Verhaeghe
Matt Duchene
Jared McCann
Seth Jarvis
Bo Horvat
Drake Batherson
Jordan Kyrou

Thomas definitely should be on the team and Strome is trending. Rest is up for discussion but I think Scheifele and Konecny are favorites

That said, wouldn't be surprising if they opt for experience in Marchand and Stamkos
Unfortunately, Marchand is locked in. A month ago, Team Canada had to list a half dozen players who would be on the team and Marchand was one of them - so, unless he gets hurt, Marchand is playing. While I'm sure he'll will pull his weight, there are MUCH better options.

Just like with the World Juniors, go with who is HOT and Duchene, Scheifele, Stone, Marner, Konecny, Bennett, McCann, Strome and Hagel are HOT !!!! (* Okay, TBH, Hagel is just luke warm) :)
 
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I can't imagine the Argos winning, tomorrow, but I hope they keep it close - I don't want a blow out.
Argos keeping it close. In fact, they are winning 17-10. I did not see that coming.
Sloppy game!

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Argos Win. Winnipeg had a HORRIBLE game - they were a 10 point favourite. Congrats Toronto on the upset!
 
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ORRFF Stats Watch (November 17, 2024)

Positives :


* LAF with his 7th goal.
* Jake Neighbours with his 5th goal.
* Jakob Chychrun with his 5th goal.
* Steven Stamkos with his 5th and 6th goal.
* Zach L'Heureux with his FIRST NHL Goal !!!
* Dylan Strome with his 20th and 21st assist.
* Alex Pietrangelo with his 12th assist.
* Jordan Kyrou with his 11th assist.
* Will Cuylle with his 7th assist.

Goalies :

* Logan Thompson (Wash) gave up 2 goals on 41 shots vs Vegas for the win.
* Joel Hofer (St. L) gave up 4 goals on 24 shots in the loss to Carolina.

Negatives :

* Shane Wright !!!
 
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Looking like Thompson has the inside track so far to be the starter. 8-0-1 with Washington so far and is keeping up his play over from from Vegas.
 
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Suzuki, Marchand and Byfield are not Top-13 forwards on Canada. Even Stamkos seem to be on the verge of decline. Many other guys to consider

Robert Thomas
Mark Scheifele
Travis Konecny
Brandon Hagel
Dylan Strome
Carter Verhaeghe
Matt Duchene
Jared McCann
Seth Jarvis
Bo Horvat
Drake Batherson
Jordan Kyrou

Thomas definitely should be on the team and Strome is trending. Rest is up for discussion but I think Scheifele and Konecny are favorites

That said, wouldn't be surprising if they opt for experience in Marchand and Stamkos
High on Thomas. Just not sure if he’s healthy. Agree with you on Scheifele, Konecny, Hagel, Verhaege, McCann, and Jarvis. All very good players that can fill in roles.

Dylan Strome I’m not high on. He’s just a lesser version of a Bedard, Stamkos or Verhaege to fill in that shooting role.

Drake Batherson needs to prove himself more as a two-way player. He brings that power forward role and scoring touch, but if he was able to kill penalties, I think he would make the roster over some of the other aging wingers. Surprised no mention of Lafreinere. He’s Top 10 in Even Strength Scoring for Canadians and gets little-to-no PP time. He’s better than Batherson from watching the 2 of them play

Same can be said for Jordan Kyrou. Fantastic offensive player, but I don’t see him making Team Canada.

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Stamkos seems to be heating up just in time for the tournament but I'm not sure what to think...

1) I'd prefer someone younger - he'll be 35;
2) I've never been impressed with him at Best on Best tournaments.

Having said that...

1) He brings leadership and experience.
2) He can score.
3) He's terrific in the faceoff circle - although, this year he's been average.
4) He's capable of a strong 200 foot game.

My guess : If he continues to heat up, he'll get an invite.
 
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High on Thomas. Just not sure if he’s healthy. Agree with you on Scheifele, Konecny, Hagel, Verhaege, McCann, and Jarvis. All very good players that can fill in roles.

Dylan Strome I’m not high on. He’s just a lesser version of a Bedard, Stamkos or Verhaege to fill in that shooting role.

Why shooting role for Strome? He has focused more on his playmaking and is now a top line center on a good team. Only MacKinnon has a better PPG among Canadian centers so far this season. Obviously it won't stay like that but he is finally living up to his draft status.

Bedard is still a bit too young, Stamkos is getting too old but Verhaeghe is a good option, very underrated player. None of them would play C on TC so I guess it would also depends on who plays best on the W.

Drake Batherson needs to prove himself more as a two-way player. He brings that power forward role and scoring touch, but if he was able to kill penalties, I think he would make the roster over some of the other aging wingers. Surprised no mention of Lafreinere. He’s Top 10 in Even Strength Scoring for Canadians and gets little-to-no PP time. He’s better than Batherson from watching the 2 of them play

Same can be said for Jordan Kyrou. Fantastic offensive player, but I don’t see him making Team Canada.

Agreed, Batherson and Kyrou can be offensive dynamos, particularly playing with uber talented players but TC would be prioritizing better 2-way players first.

And yeah, did I forgot Lafreniere? I thought of him when making my post, he's 100% there for me. He brings more elements than Batherson and Kyrou.

There would be Giroux too who is still a top line 2-way forward but a bit like Stamkos and Marchand, is it time to turn to younger players? Crosby is the exception though
 
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Why shooting role for Strome? He has focused more on his playmaking and is now a top line center on a good team. Only MacKinnon has a better PPG among Canadian centers so far this season. Obviously it won't stay like that but he is finally living up to his draft status.

Bedard is still a bit too young, Stamkos is getting too old but Verhaeghe is a good option, very underrated player. None of them would play C on TC so I guess it would also depends on who plays best on the W.



Agreed, Batherson and Kyrou can be offensive dynamos, particularly playing with uber talented players but TC would be prioritizing better 2-way players first.

And yeah, did I forgot Lafreniere? I thought of him when making my post, he's 100% there for me. He brings more elements than Batherson and Kyrou.

There would be Giroux too who is still a top line 2-way forward but a bit like Stamkos and Marchand, is it time to turn to younger players? Crosby is the exception though
A lot of knowledgeable posters have a strong dislike for Strome - so I bowed to them and kept Dylan off my team.

McDavid is a terrific playmaker so it would be best to have some goal scorers on his wings. Unfortunately, his buddy Hyman has been awful this year.
 

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Could Canada convince Daccord to play for them? He's American born, dad is Canadian mom is Swiss. As far as I know he's never played internationally before for any of the 3.

He's probably the 4th or 5th best American goalie but he'd be far and away Canada's best.
 
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Why shooting role for Strome? He has focused more on his playmaking and is now a top line center on a good team. Only MacKinnon has a better PPG among Canadian centers so far this season. Obviously it won't stay like that but he is finally living up to his draft status.

Bedard is still a bit too young, Stamkos is getting too old but Verhaeghe is a good option, very underrated player. None of them would play C on TC so I guess it would also depends on who plays best on the W.



Agreed, Batherson and Kyrou can be offensive dynamos, particularly playing with uber talented players but TC would be prioritizing better 2-way players first.

And yeah, did I forgot Lafreniere? I thought of him when making my post, he's 100% there for me. He brings more elements than Batherson and Kyrou.

There would be Giroux too who is still a top line 2-way forward but a bit like Stamkos and Marchand, is it time to turn to younger players? Crosby is the exception though
You kind of answered your own question about Strome. He wouldn’t play center on this team and that’s where he’s felt most comfortable this season. He’s likely play wing and Canada would rely on him to fill that shooting role, not to make plays. This team likely adds Scheifele, Bedard Marner to a crop of elite playmakers. You don’t need or want Dylan Strome to be running line. There’s better winger options such as Verhaege or McCann.

I HATE even mentioning Stamkos, but Canada lacks shooters. He’s still our deadliest One-T threat and I have no problems with him being on PP1 or PP2 with someone like a Scheifele, Point, Marner or Stone. I would love for Kyrou to fill Stamkos role as a shooting winger, but he doesn’t bring the versatility that Stamkos does yet. I would have no problems if Kyrou were named over Stamkos though.
 

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