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Are there any enforcers/goons left in the NHL?

Kristo

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Hi. This is the first time I'm posting on Hfboards. But I have been following this forum for many years as a viewer, especially General Hockey Discussion.

In the 1990s and 2000s the enforcer was a common player role in the NHL. A player who deterred and often fought with other players. Sometimes they are called goons. Even during the first years after the 2004-05 lockout almost every NHL team had one or two fighters in their rosters. But since then the numbers of fights have decreased in the league. Nowadays there are rarely any players in the league as a whole with even 5-6 or more fights in a season (many people say that it's good though).

As the thread says, are there any enforcers/goons left in the NHL? I'm especially refering to fourth liners who usually play a maximum of 10 minutes per game (often less), have a clear purpose to play tough and fight (or at least be prepared to do it) and who usually pose a minimum offensive threat. But I guess there have existed traditional enforcers with some respectable offensive numbers too.

A player like Cody McLeod fits the criteria of a traditional enforcer/goon. But he plays in the AHL nowadays (and is the PIM leader). Micheal Haley also fits the criteria but he retired after the 2020-21 season (he only played in four NHL games that season). I guess Zac Rinaldo fits the citeria, but it looks like he won't play in the NHL anymore.

Ryan Reaves and Ross Johnston maybe?

Will the tradional enforcer/goon role die out? Can wee soon talk about the last goons in the NHL, almost like the last helmetless players or the last stand up goalies?
 
rinaldo was the closest thing to a goon but i doubt he ever plays again. most guys you'd call enforcers these days can actually skate and contribute offensively unlike the goons of the 80s and 90s who couldn't even skate

johnston and geertsen are the closest thing to goons still playing i'd say
 
Someone mentioned MacDermid. I don't know much about the quality of his game. I note that he's several games this season with only 5-8 minutes of playing time though. Not very usual for a defenceman.
 
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Reaves is a possible free agent next year and a Winnipeg boy. Imo, this team hasn't been the same since Buff left. I hope they consider signing him.
 
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Ryan Reaves is the only guy that comes to mind, there’s probably a few more.

he had some more hockey skill (nothing drastic) in the past but he’s seemed slowing down last year, was getting scratched off the Knights roster. Probably hard for him to get scratched off the Rangers bottom six but he’s getting older.
But yea plays hard hits hard, fights, shittalks. Lots and lots and lots of slashes and cross checks
 
Lol no he's not. Reaves has 1 goal and 11 points in his last 63 games with awful analytics.


I saw his and another post but I didn’t want to engage :laugh:

maybe it’s been a while since he saw Reaves. The “good skater” thing caught me


He has a very specific role and that’s to hop on the ice when his team is for sure going to lose the game and “intimidate” (slash and crosscheck), at least in Vegas the last few years. Once in a Blue moon if you have to play against Tom Wilson you give him some
more minutes. I’d have to check out some Rangers games if he’s massively improved
 
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Clifford is one of the few enforcers left. Surprisingly though, he's recently had a short stretch of his best play i've seen in the last two years. Passable 4th liner right now.

Simmonds assumes that role in TOR but he's still more skilled than your typical Reaves/Clifford/Geertson/etc. and can actually play higher in the lineup at times.

Gabriel and Sabourin are more AHL caliber but dress from time to time. Pure goons with no measurable impact.

Dying breed.
 
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