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It also ignores that a few better teams, NJ and Detroit, would have also made the playoffs with average goaltending.
I would have killed for your below average goaltending last season.
It also ignores that a few better teams, NJ and Detroit, would have also made the playoffs with average goaltending.
That's a great point...and NJ improved their G position dramatically too.It also ignores that a few better teams, NJ and Detroit, would have also made the playoffs with average goaltending.
The arenas the teams play in have nothing to do with my argument.It sure is a bad comparison, considering the Coyotes were booted out of the league and spent 20 odd years being the leagues basement dweller and kicked out of their arena. Last I checked Ottawa still has their team, a full size arena to play in, and have at least done some shit worth a damn before this lmao
See my response above.There's no other situation like Arizona though. Ottawa may be struggling, but the agonizing Coyotes made the league look like a complete joke. It's been embarassing headline after headline for them for basically their entire existence.
When the Senators are planned to play a minimum of 3 seasons in a U of O facility, you can come back and cry injustice.
Another beautiful day forecasted here, almost the weekend, the boss is on vacation and Sens fans are in a death-match with reality.Can someone please do a health check on Shane Diesel. He hasn't posted in here for a while
I shouldn't have blocked. Was it fun?
Unfortunately, we can no longer retain the title. This team still has a good prospect pool, a solid roster, should be a solid head coach, and we know Adams at least has a brain. Maybe not the best for the job but the organization is at least being ran competently.As long as Pegula is meddling with the Sabres, I think he owns that title for now and into the future.
Of course it doesn't. One team has an arena and the other doesn't.The arenas the teams play in have nothing to do with my argument.
For 20 odd years like the poster you quoted mentioned? Or just the years that fir your narrative?Attendance, revenue generation and on-ice competitiveness are the crux. All of which are bottom of the barrel for the Sens organization in the NHL.
A lot of franchises have lacked attendance, revenue generation and on-ice competitiveness.The arenas the teams play in have nothing to do with my argument.
Attendance, revenue generation and on-ice competitiveness are the crux. All of which are bottom of the barrel for the Sens organization in the NHL.
See my response above.
You all are fixating on the arena thing when it hasn't once been a tenent of my argument.
Rebuilding is not the answerWhether their fans want to admit it or not...they're definitely up there. The team right now, while having star players, isn't good enough to win. They have a relatively weak prospect pool, and will be losing a 1st rounder in the next 2 years. And to top it off they are in a very strong division, with alot of the other teams currently not in the mix having better/more young players/prospects. What path do they have to follow that will lead to long-term playoff success, other than a rebuild?
They're clearly worse than FLA, TOR, TBL, and BOS.
DET, and BUF finished above them in the standings last year and have just as much if not more young star players, but much better prospect pools.
That leaves them at the bottom with MTL, who again has a much better prospect pool, and their own handful of young players also improving.
I've never made it a pillar of my argument. This is literally a strawman argument.Of course it doesn't. One team has an arena and the other doesn't.
The Sens have had bad revenue and attendance for years. Just because the Coyotes have been a poorly for longer doesn't absolve the Ottawa organization for their lack of success.For 20 odd years like the poster you quoted mentioned? Or just the years that fir your narrative?
A lot of franchises have lacked attendance, revenue generation and on-ice competitiveness.
Unfortunately, we can no longer retain the title. This team still has a good prospect pool, a solid roster, should be a solid head coach, and we know Adams at least has a brain. Maybe not the best for the job but the organization is at least being ran competently.
If it was the "past" for sure.
The whole point of this thread is present and future. Sabres are set up perfectly fine.Until they actually do something competent on the ice, this is Buffalo’s title. 13 years of evidence versus a couple of weeks of activity still slants this in favor of how they have been.
Yes we know, we've splained to you why. Lots of teams fit this category. Some teams fit have only ever fit this category and know nothing else; Ottawa is not one of them. Posters form other fanbases have called you out but you're only responding to Sens fans. Can you say agenda?The Sens have had bad revenue and attendance for years. Just because the Coyotes have been a poorly for longer doesn't absolve the Ottawa organization for their lack of success
Yes we know, we've splained to you why. Lots of teams fit this category. Some teams fit have only ever fit this category and know nothing else; Ottawa is not one of them. Posters form other fanbases have called you out but you're only responding to Sens fans. Can you say agenda?
Nobody's absolving the Sens from their lack of success. They just kind of belong to a tier with a few other shit franchises, with nothing too outrageous about them to make them stand out.I've never made it a pillar of my argument. This is literally a strawman argument.
The Sens have had bad revenue and attendance for years. Just because the Coyotes have been a poorly for longer doesn't absolve the Ottawa organization for their lack of success.
Ottawa Senators [NHL, 1992-2025] yearly attendance at hockeydb.com
A historical graph of the yearly attendance for the Ottawa Senators [NHL, 1992-2025] of the National Hockey League.www.hockeydb.com
And according to you none of that matters as long as the arena situation isn't an issue. You're really setting an incredibly low bar for success here.
I think Columbus is in pretty good shape in terms of prospects nowgood riddance their drafting has sucked for 20 years
They would have to demand a trade. There's no way in the world you trade someone like Tkachuk, Stutzle and especially Sanderson without them coming to you and saying I want out. No way in the world.They should be able to get solid returns on Tkachuk and Stutzle when they trade them. Some teams don't have assets with that kind of value so I would not call them the worst.
It's not out of the question they do unless they realize their mistake and hire a real coach.They would have to demand a trade. There's no way in the world you trade someone like Tkachuk, Stutzle and especially Sanderson without them coming to you and saying I want out. No way in the world.
It's never out of the question that someone asks to be traded, I'm just saying Ottawa would never actively look to trade those three unless they asked. Especially Sanderson.It's not out of the question they do unless they realize their mistake and hire a real coach.