Appraisal of Rangers' Salary Structure

[haveandare]

Tinordi will be our 3rd pair defenseman this season unless he's beaten out by Robertson. I dont see jones beating him out just yet defensively and I see lundkvist as the bigger prospect/upgrade.

Nils and nemeth will likely be the third pair imo

 

[IDvsEGO]

Nils and nemeth will likely be the third pair imo

Yeah sorry had that backwards.

 

[SickNice]

The average salary for a 23 man roster with an 81.5 million cap is 3.5 million

I doubt his deal is anything but solid for the next 4 years.

Yeah, and if two of those players are Panarin and Trouba, the average salary for the remaining 21 is only $2.9...

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

From the Athletic: (21st best salary structure)


21. New York Rangers

Last season: 28th

I just… I don’t get why the Rangers would do what they did this offseason. .

Bc Gorton managed salary cap like a headless chicken and he trained Drury to follow his footsteps. And Drury also has Dolan up his ass to make sure we don't get pushed around again by teams like the isles and the washington wilsons. Tbf I like some of the guys he brought in. I'm excited to see what the team does. I liked gallant but he's a risk. I like bringing in players gallant can use.

Unfortunately I dislike the actual contract terms and trades we've done under Drury. Getting the right guys at the wrong costs

Also funny to see you come around and offer some criticism after defending this organization for similar f*** ups for years

 

[aufheben]

Dolan's reaction was to Wilson, I'm guessing.

Tampa did something similar to win, but they were on the cusp of winning, and they brought in mostly guys who could take a regular shift. Reaves and Tinordi are not those kinds of players.

The Rangers, to me panicked and moved a year too soon in that direction

I can’t believe anyone would dispute this.

 

[NYSPORTS]

The solution was to not waste roster space and any money on Tinordi and Reaves. Neither is capable of contributing a thing other than slaking the thirst of Wilson-haters. Why do you think Vegas no longer would pay even a bare minimum to Reaves if he adds more than fighting??

Buch - if they were unhappy with his market value they should have kept him until the next trade deadline. They essentially gave awat a 1st or 2nd line forward in his prime for a banger who breaks down every year. That's poor asset management.

Now, the Rangers have two choices. They can sit with their current set of centers or give up some talented youth to get it. If the latter happens, it becomes Buch plus that youth for a center.

Of course the Rangers have to get more physical to be a Cup contender, but usually teams don't make those moves until they're close. The Rangers aren't.

they’re combined not even costing $3 million. Don’t worry about it lol. Com’on bro

Had the Rangers kept Buch then both Kakko and Krav get less time and they’re the future. The Rangers also wouldn’t have Goodie and that 2nd Round pick.

I think the roster is better today. You’ve seen the power from the playoff teams. The Rangers now have some. I don’t know where this theory about adding grit only when you are a contender comes from. Didn’t the Rangers have plenty of grit when the traded for finesse Nash? You add what you need long term and none of these contracts are bad as i see it.

There is time to figure out center. In the NHL, somebody always becomes available.

 

[chosen]

They didn’t really bail on him. A third for an older 4th liner isnt bad

If he's currently considered a valuable asset for a team trying to win next season, it makes no sense to trade him.

 

[chosen]

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There is time to figure out center. In the NHL, somebody always becomes available.

To me, that's backwards.

It's very difficult to get a top-2 center.

In the NHL, grit guys always become available.

 

[mas0764]

I am not sure I see how they do that without making trades or buyouts.

28M next year

Pending

Fox
Zibanejad (or #1C)

Strome
Georgiev (or backup)
Blais
Kakko
Kravtsov


Assuming Fox and Zbad (or replacement) are expensive
Even if they eliminate Strome
Turn Geo into a 1-2M goalie

It seems like just extending the others 3 at even the Chytil 2.3M would use up nearly all the 28M.

Hence why they should be trying to move Kreider or Trouba.

 

[Off Sides]

Hence why they should be trying to move Kreider or Trouba.

Sure, yet how does that work?

A contender can not likely fit them, or already has a player(s) for that position/role, a non contender is not likely somewhere they would waive to go.

The only players who carry any sort of cap hit (2M or more) beyond this up coming season, who do not have clauses are Lindgren, Chytil, Shesty, and entry level contracts do not really apply or save them any cap space by moving.

 

[NYSPORTS]

To me, that's backwards.

It's very difficult to get a top-2 center.

In the NHL, grit guys always become available.

one has nothing to do with the other. The Rangers acquired grit b/c they needed it. They don’t need a center right now. They do have Mika, Strome, Chytil, Goodie and who knows about others. Laf or Krav could make the change. The Rangers could move a Nils or others for that center.

 

[mas0764]

one has nothing to do with the other. The Rangers acquired grit b/c they needed it. They don’t need a center right now. They do have Mika, Strome, Chytil, Goodie and who knows about others. Laf or Krav could make the change. The Rangers could move a Nils or others for that center.

The Rangers absolutely need a center in their system with top 6 potential right now, literally.

 

[mas0764]

To me, that's backwards.

It's very difficult to get a top-2 center.

In the NHL, grit guys always become available.

The guy you are talking to is a simple apologist for this offseason’s nonsense, don’t pay him much mind.

 

[NYSPORTS]

The Rangers absolutely need a center in their system with top 6 potential right now, literally.

wrong, they do not need one today to start the season and a lot can happen between now and next season.

 

[NYSPORTS]

The guy you are talking to is a simple apologist for this offseason’s nonsense, don’t pay him much mind.

and what moves would you have made?

 

[mas0764]

wrong, they do not need one today to start the season and a lot can happen between now and next season.

Wrong, Strome is a goner and the Zibanejad situation may get untenable at any time.

What, just do nothing because you are good for 82 more games and then hope a solution crops up? The height of idiocy.

They know this is a looming problem and the center position is the most important in the sport. They need to be addressing all avenues to get long term solutions NOW.

 

[mas0764]

and what moves would you have made?

Would have added to Buchnevich in order to get Edmonton to part with 8OA in 2019, would have dealt Kreider for Robertson and a first, would have pushed harder to move Buch for a center or the assets to get a center, would have traded assets to try to get up for Lundell instead of Schneider, would have drafted Svechkov or Lucius instead of a third line grinder, etc etc etc.

At this point would probably be targeting a center from the Kings. Bye Bye Schneider

 

[NYSPORTS]

Wrong, Strome is a goner and the Zibanejad situation may get untenable at any time.

What, just do nothing because you are good for 82 more games and then hope a solution crops up? The height of idiocy.

They know this is a looming problem and the center position is the most important in the sport. They need to be addressing all avenues to get long term solutions NOW.

Give us your solution. You’ve spent the day complaining about everything so how about something useful?

 

[mas0764]

Give us your solution. You’ve spent the day complaining about everything so how about something useful?

I have told you many times the smart things they should be doing, you bury your head in the sand.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Would have added to Buchnevich in order to get Edmonton to part with 8OA in 2019, would have dealt Kreider for Robertson and a first, would have pushed harder to move Buch for a center or the assets to get a center, would have traded assets to try to get up for Lundell instead of Schneider, would have drafted Svechkov or Lucius instead of a third line grinder, etc etc etc.

lol, newsflash it’s 2021 not 2019.
Where is Kreider and Robertson going for a 1st
How do you know Buch for a center wasn’t out there and how come that #2 pick can’t be part of a package?

lol, again with Lundell.

How about a solution for today rather than complaining about years ago?

 

[NYSPORTS]

I have told you many times the smart things they should be doing, you bury your head in the sand.

what move do you want to make today? You’ve made it clear the Rangers need a center today. You can’t wait. What is the move? Never mind yesteryear, today. Let’s hear it

 

[mas0764]

lol, newsflash it’s 2021 not 2019.
Where is Kreider and Robertson going for a 1st
How do you know Buch for a center was out there and how come that #2 pick can’t be part of a package?

lol, again with Lundell.

How about a solution for today rather than complaining about years ago?

You asked what I would have done, ie, the past. There are a ton of things I would have done that would have fixed this issue long ago, the Rangers have ignored it at their peril. They are now desperate for a much needed center, now.

At this stage the best option seems to be either getting Eichel on the cheap if possible then flipping Zibanejad for a package to replenish, or targeting a center who has yet to play in the league yet with a package of defense for offense, maybe the Kings.

They dug this hole though so it is gonna be harder to find a solution.

What they are most likely to do though based on this relatively lousy offseason is pay Mika too much money for too long and then struggle when he declines in 2 years despite getting crippling money.

 

[NYSPORTS]

You asked what I would have done, ie, the past. There are a ton of things I would have done that would have fixed this issue long ago, the Rangers have ignored it at their peril. They are now desperate for a much needed center, now.

At this stage the best option seems to be either getting Eichel on the cheap if possible then flipping Zibanejad for a package to replenish, or targeting a center who has yet to play in the league yet with a package of defense for offense, maybe the Kings.

They dug this hole though so it is gonna be harder to find a solution.

What they are most likely to do though based on this relatively lousy offseason is pay Mika too much money for too long and then struggle when he declines in 2 years despite getting crippling money.

lol, so despite all the drama and ridicule you still have no solution. I say wait b/c the Rangers have centers and could make moves, etc, etc and you shoot them all down b/c you need somebody today yet you have no idea who? Just Eichel’s broken neck and moving Zibby for an unknow return and an unknown center. Great, glad my head is buried in the sand lol.

 

[Off Sides]

Joe Thornton is the obvious answer here.

Old, people have probably heard of him, slow, called the Rangers soft. Maybe can sign for one year. Tutelage or whatever.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Joe Thornton is the obvious answer here.

Old, people have probably heard of him, slow, called the Rangers soft. Maybe can sign for one year. Tutelage or whatever.

at least you have an answer. Stunned he wasn’t a Rangers earlier in his career.