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Anything intriguing enough to copy from the PWHL?

PistolPete said:
No substituting at atart of a PK?

First overall chooses it's first round opponent fir the playoffs?

A SHG negates the PK?

3-2-1 point system?

Golden Plan Draft format (first oick gies to team with most points after being mathematically eliminated)?
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I like the Golden Draft Pick, and down for a 3-2-1. Could even get behind no subs to start a PK.



Choosing your opponent... the trolling would be so flipping annoying, so as a mod, no :laugh:

Jailbreak, idk... You broke the rules. Take your lump, is how I see it. Your team scoring without you shouldn't negate you slashing or boarding someone.
 
Choosing your opponent is a juicy storyline that writes itself.

I don't think i would want that burden if I was a team making that choice, but I'm all for it as a fan.
 
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Rodgerwilco said:
Golden Plan Draft format (first pick goes to team with most points after being mathematically eliminated)?
- Easily the worst one. Can't state how bad this would be. Giving the 1st pick to the 17th best team in the league would be absurd. The worst teams having a higher chance to get good talent is the best system. Of course, this can sometimes reward bad ownership by squandering good talent, it's the most fair system IMO.
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How would the 17th best team win the 1st pick? They'd likely have very few points after being eliminated since they're likely eliminated on one of the last days of the season.

What I like about this format is that it gives fans a reason to cheer for their team to win after they've been eliminated. Cheering for your crappy team to lose because it's the best thing for the future sucks.

Everything else about the PWHL should be avoided. It's a league that needs gimmicks and being intrusively pushed on us during NHL coverage to exist.
 
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Masked said:
How would the 17th best team win the 1st pick? They'd like have very few points after being eliminated since they're likely eliminated on one of the last days of the season.

What I like about this format is that it gives fans a reason to cheer for their team to win after they've been eliminated. Cheering for your crappy team to lose because it's the best thing for the future sucks.

Everything else about the PWHL should be avoided. It's a league that needs gimmicks and being intrusively pushed on us during NHL coverage to exist.
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I guess I didn't get the wording right on the proposal here. I get what they meant now...

Either way, it seems like a rather convoluted and unnecessary system. As I said in a previous comment. My philosophy is that rule changes should be fixing a problem. I don't think that tanking is really a problem, as real tanking pretty much never happens. You're taking the worst team in the league and forcing them to try to get better literally immediately upon elimination, which just doesn't make sense. Most of the time bad teams just aren't that good. Punishing a bad team by not being able to accumulate points in seasons where they're just not good is counterintuitive.

I agree with what you said and I hate fans cheering for their team to lose in the current system, but that's just more of a mentality thing. As far as my favorite team has been from the playoffs at times, I watch them because I want them to win and always cheer for them to win.
 
Tasteless Beaver said:
I'm fine with SHG negating a PP. It will encourage riskier behavior, leading to more exciting hockey.
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Jailbreak on the PK is a great rule. It also encourages different personnel choices which might also increase goal scoring from the PP.

For instance, right now Stutzle rarely kills penalties for Ottawa. If this rule was implemented he’d be far more likely to be out there trying to score.
 
Bileur said:
Jailbreak on the PK is a great rule. It also encourages different personnel choices which might also increase goal scoring from the PP.

For instance, right now Stutzle rarely kills penalties for Ottawa. If this rule was implemented he’d be far more likely to be out there trying to score.
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It may at least encourage teams to put their fastest players on the PK.

Maybe do the same as the PP and give with 4 Fand 1 D?
 
Rodgerwilco said:
Golden Plan Draft format (first pick goes to team with most points after being mathematically eliminated)?
- Easily the worst one. Can't state how bad this would be. Giving the 1st pick to the 17th best team in the league would be absurd. The worst teams having a higher chance to get good talent is the best system. Of course, this can sometimes reward bad ownership by squandering good talent, it's the most fair system IMO.
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You don't understand this system.

The team who earns the most standings points after *they* are eliminated from playoff contention gets the first pick. Teams who are eliminated earlier have more games to earn points towards the draft, teams who are eliminated later have fewer games to do so. So worse teams will still usually end up picking earlier, simply because they had more time to accrue points towards their draft position.

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Let's move away from a system that rewards a team for losing their last 11 games of the season (*cough san jose cough*) and where the fans are actively rooting for their team to lose because there's no incentive to win.
 
Hivemind said:
You don't understand this system.

The team who earns the most standings points after *they* are eliminated from playoff contention gets the first pick. Teams who are eliminated earlier have more games to earn points towards the draft, teams who are eliminated later have fewer games to do so. So worse teams will still usually end up picking earlier, simply because they had more time to accrue points towards their draft position.

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Let's move away from a system that rewards a team for losing their last 11 games of the season (*cough san jose cough*) and where the fans are actively rooting for their team to lose because there's no incentive to win.
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Yes, I misunderstood it at first and acknowledged that in a later comment.

I still don't like the system. I don't think true tanking really happens anywhere near as much as people make it out to be to justify such an overhaul. Even though teams have time to accrue more points after elimination this system is asking bad teams to somehow get better in the middle of the season and start accruing points.

Worse teams should get higher draft picks, it's like this in every sport.
 
No way the NHL would level change the lottery to something where teams just lose to get eliminate sooner then win to get 1OA.

SHG ends PP dumb. player commits penalty shouldn't be let loose eariler cause his team gets a short handed.

Hivemind said:
You don't understand this system.

The team who earns the most standings points after *they* are eliminated from playoff contention gets the first pick. Teams who are eliminated earlier have more games to earn points towards the draft, teams who are eliminated later have fewer games to do so. So worse teams will still usually end up picking earlier, simply because they had more time to accrue points towards their draft position.

Gold Drafting

Visualizations and predictions for understanding hockey.
hockeyviz.com hockeyviz.com

Let's move away from a system that rewards a team for losing their last 11 games of the season (*cough san jose cough*) and where the fans are actively rooting for their team to lose because there's no incentive to win.
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Lets not reward a eliminated team 1OA for winning games.... if they can win then those teams can win sooner. This golden draft will encourage tanking just so teams can be eliminated the quickest.
 
The 3-2-1 point system is long overdue.

Having some games worth 3 points while other games are worth 2 points is ridiculous.
 
No substitution at the start of PK? No. Frankly, there's no reason to make PPs more impactful than they already are. It just gives the refs more influence over the game.

Jailbreak? No. It's a poorly thought-out gimmick that manages to both accomplish nothing, and undermine the league's own disciplinary system.

Choosing your PO opponent? Maybe. Another gimmick, but a better one. Doesn't really affect the game, but it would create a lot of media fodder. Might be an option if one day the league feels the need to keep the networks happy.

3-2-1 system? Yes, absolutely. Should have been implemented ages ago.

Golden plan draft? Maybe. On one hand it's a slightly convoluted system that's not really needed (I think the current lottery system is a sufficient disincentive for tanking). On the other hand, it would change the dynamics of NHL GMing in a way that I would find really fun. Imagine you're a bad team at the deadline in this scenario: do you sell at sky-high prices in a market where everyone's a buyer? Or do you stand pat hoping to make at run at the no1 pick? Hell you could even imagine a basement team buying at the deadline just to try and get some new phenom. Would be fun to watch.
 
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