Anyone else feel you cant just analyze secondary assists at face value?

[WarriorofTime]

It definitely is not.

Probably the first thing scouts look at and that fans get wrong.

 

[kerrabria]

Probably the first thing scouts look at and that fans get wrong.

Probably why half the dmen drafted high nowadays are busts.

And look at the top pair Dmen on Stanley Cup champs over the past few years. How many have been defensive liabilities but great puck movers (bonus points if they aren’t goal scorers).

 

[Fitzy]

I've been arguing second assists should often be awarded on good intentional screens, as those often impact a goal more than secondar yassists and sometimes even primary ones.

Kreider would have like 15 more a season.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Some secondary assists make the play. Some primary assists are a player bobbling a puck. Some goals just bounce off a players ass. Context matters.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Some secondary assists make the play. Some primary assists are a player bobbling a puck. Some goals just bounce off a players ass. Context matters.

Sometimes a dude stops a goal from happening at one end, and then he makes the key 3rd pass that leads to his team scoring. That’s a 2 point swing, but it might not get any points.

I think you could have some fun with statistics there, but I think the system mostly sums up the players who contribute the most to the offense.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Sometimes a dude stops a goal from happening at one end, and then he makes the key 3rd pass that leads to his team scoring. That’s a 2 point swing, but it might not get any points.

I think you could have some fun with statistics there, but I think the system mostly sums up the players who contribute the most to the offense.

Yeah,I think downplaying this or that point is for nerds. And I'm good at maths.

 

[crazy8888]

The argument many people make is secondary assists are a lot less meaningful and showcase less skill than primary points. But imho, I think you have to specifically watch every goal to determine whether or not the secondary assist was the weaker point.

If a player briefly touched the puck while the primary point producers did everything else, then yeah the secondary assist was irrelevant. However, if the secondary assist happened due to one player keeping the puck in the zone along with excellent shielding and drawing players toward him, then dishing off an excellent pass, which results into a shot, and finally a rebound tip/deflection for a goal, then the secondary assist producer clearly did the bulk work and was the most important player in that sequence.

I do think for wingers secondary assists are more likely to not be as impactful. But for centres and especially defenseman, secondary assists can be just as important if not more than primary once you watch and analyze how the goal was created.

Not that your wrong or anything but secondary assists are really only brought up by fans in arguments about players they do not like. Their pettiness will always outweigh your logic.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Yes but it is 90% of the time harder to score a goal than getting a secondary assist. There may be some outliner secondary assist where this person beat a whole team and do a spinorama to someone who pass to someone who score. But 90% of the cases it isnt that.

Is it? A goal still needs to be scored.