Any cities you wish had a team (not in Canada)?

[Johnny Concussion]

You don’t understand, it’s ok

I don't. Care to explain?

 

[FlyguyOX]

I don't. Care to explain?

It’s been explained ad nauseam on this site so not really. Go check out the atlanta thread on business forum.

 

[Bourque]

Houston is the 4th largest US city.

 

[Johnny Concussion]

It’s been explained ad nauseam on this site so not really. Go check out the atlanta thread on business forum.

A'ight. Pretty lame response but I'll leave you be. I hope Atlanta never gets a team again. Have a good one.

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

Milwaukee. Most underappreciated city in America

 

[Harvey Birdman]

I don’t know, I just feel we have too many teams

While I agree with you. I think 32 is quite enough. There will be another expansion. The NHL wants to find a way to get a team in Atlanta with good ownership. They want an arena deal in Arizona. And reading the tea leaves Houston is on their list also. Another expansion is almost a guarantee before 2030. I’d be two expansions before 2035.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

I don’t know, I just feel we have too many teams

While I agree with you. I think 32 is quite enough. There will be another expansion. The NHL wants to find a way to get a team in Atlanta with good ownership. They want an arena deal in Arizona. And reading the tea leaves Houston is on their list also. Another expansion is almost a guarantee before 2030. I’d be two expansions before 2035. Assuming there are 4 teams before 3035 brought into. In no order. This would be my wild stab in the dark list. San Diego, Houston, Arizona, Atlanta. With say… Nashville moving to the Eastern Conference.

 

[Tawnos]

A'ight. Pretty lame response but I'll leave you be. I hope Atlanta never gets a team again. Have a good one.

Poster is probably frustrated that you won’t even do enough looking into it to it to understand that population within city limits has nothing to do with the size of a market. Atlanta proper is only a tiny portion of the Atlanta market. It’s the 8th biggest market in the US and has 6.5 million people. It’s bigger than Boston and Philadelphia.

The previous relocations really were independent of the market. Especially the last one, when you had a dedicated owner forced to sell because of a disastrous merger in his main business. The new ownership were a conglomerate who only bought the Thrashers because they wanted the arena and the Hawks, but it was a package deal. They drove the team into the ground, refused to sell to someone else who would still play in the arena, and were all around just slimy people.

A small amount of reading on the subject would’ve told you all of that.

While I agree with you. I think 32 is quite enough. There will be another expansion. The NHL wants to find a way to get a team in Atlanta with good ownership. They want an arena deal in Arizona. And reading the tea leaves Houston is on their list also. Another expansion is almost a guarantee before 2030. I’d be two expansions before 2035. Assuming there are 4 teams before 3035 brought into. In no order. This would be my wild stab in the dark list. San Diego, Houston, Arizona, Atlanta. With say… Nashville moving to the Eastern Conference.

The best part about getting 4 more teams by 3035 is that I’ll be dead long before then and won’t have to explain to posters like the above, yet again, how things went down in Atlanta.

 

[PistolPete]

Third time is the charm right? I'm not saying a city of 500,000ish people can't support a hockey team but how many times are we gonna try Atlanta? Go somewhere else please.

You think Atlanta is 500K people?

 

[Johnny Concussion]

You think Atlanta is 500K people?

I did, now I know I'm wrong. Happy trails Atlanta fans, I hope you cherish the 3rd team you get eventually.

 

[Johnny Concussion]

Poster is probably frustrated that you won’t even do enough looking into it to it to understand that population within city limits has nothing to do with the size of a market. Atlanta proper is only a tiny portion of the Atlanta market. It’s the 8th biggest market in the US and has 6.5 million people. It’s bigger than Boston and Philadelphia.

The previous relocations really were independent of the mark. Especially the last one, when you had a dedicated owner forced to sell because of a disastrous merger in his main business. The new ownership were a conglomerate who only bought the Thrashers because they wanted the arena and the Hawks, but it was a package deal. They drove the team into the ground, refused to sell to someone else who would still play in the arena, and were all around just slimy people.

A small amount of reading on the subject would’ve told you all of that.

I appreciate that you took the time to respond and inform me.

 

[PistolPete]

I did, now I know I'm wrong. Happy trails Atlanta fans, I hope you cherish the 3rd team you get eventually.

Now you see why the NHL wants to desperately have a team there?

There's a thread in the Business of Hockey that covers extensively the situation there. It's quite interesting, many claim the proposed arena in the northern area of the metropolitan area will be a huge difference in drawing fans since that is where most of the fsn base is located

 

[NorthStar4Canes]

Honestly probably Raleigh and Florida in 10 years or so. Non hockey markets that historically struggled. Nashville too but the NHLPA would never let that happen.

The Whaler//Hurricanes franchise has been in Raleigh longer where it has had more success than it was/ever did in Hartford, and is near the top in NHL attendance figures. Meanwhile, more transplants from "traditional" markets continue to move to the Raleigh by thousands every year as they have for decades, and more locals discover a love for the game as they're introduced to it. The future is bright.

Speaking of Hartford, I can name more than a few teams in "hockey markets" that have struggled, sometimes for years. Some still exist, yet many don't in their original form.

 

[PistolPete]

The Whaler//Hurricanes franchise has been in Raleigh longer where it has had more success than it was/ever did in Hartford, and is near the top in NHL attendance figures. Meanwhile, more transplants from "traditional" markets continue to move to the Raleigh by thousands every year as they have for decades, and more locals discover a love for the game as they're introduced to it. The future is bright.

Speaking of Hartford, I can name more than a few teams in "hockey markets" that have struggled, sometimes for years. Some still exist, yet many don't in their original form.

I'm intrigued by this last paragraph, especially the last line.

Up for naming names? I'm stumped as to what teams you may have in mind

 

[Tawnos]

I appreciate that you took the time to respond and inform me.

If you’re interested in it, read further both on BoH and Googling articles around. I barely scratched the surface of how screwed up the demise of the Thrashers was.

 

[Son of Nogatco]

Tegucigalpa

 

[Johnny Concussion]

If you’re interested in it, read further both on BoH and Googling articles around. I barely scratched the surface of how screwed up the demise of the Thrashers was.

Yeah I'm definitely gonna read about it on BoH. Thank you again chum!

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I go to Houston pretty frequently. It'd never replace Detroit for me, but I'd like to see a team there.

 

[ref19]

The Whaler//Hurricanes franchise has been in Raleigh longer where it has had more success than it was/ever did in Hartford, and is near the top in NHL attendance figures. Meanwhile, more transplants from "traditional" markets continue to move to the Raleigh by thousands every year as they have for decades, and more locals discover a love for the game as they're introduced to it. The future is bright.

Speaking of Hartford, I can name more than a few teams in "hockey markets" that have struggled, sometimes for years. Some still exist, yet many don't in their original form.

Agreed, it would be interesting if the Canes went back to Hartford. It’s honestly probably not that different knowledge wise in CT than it is in CAR.

 

[Sports2]

Milwaukee. Most underappreciated city in America View attachment 1039176

The metropolitan area of Milwaukee is half the size of the smallest metro with four major teams (Denver 3 mil v Milwaukee 1.5). I think you’re asking a lot of them to compete with the Packers, Bucks, Brewers- even Badgers. But I also don’t live there so I really don’t know how much of that holds true. Theres just only so much money to spread around.

 

[nucksflailtogether]

Pacific Northwest has been excellent for hockey with Vancouver and Seattle. I think Portland would do just as well.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Pacific Northwest has been excellent for hockey with Vancouver and Seattle. I think Portland would do just as well.

They draw really big crowds in the WHL too, even more than Seattle (the T-birds, that is).

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Milwaukee
Portland
San Diego
Kansas City

 

[PhysicalGraffiti]

Makes sense

Your mention of the Sooners reminded me when I was at a Nashville game I met a young woman who played hockey for the Auburn Tigers. Didn't even realize they have a hockey program- apparently my fiend who is an alum and a diehard football fan didn't either.

Yeah, it's definitely not at the level of their football programs, and like others have said it's club sports. But it's still wild to think that two large universities in Oklahoma would have enough interest to support it.

There's been quite a number of teams that didn't work at the state in various levels, the last one was the Oilers AHL franchise about 10 years ago. They were dreadful with attendance, so there would be a big risk since the sport isn't that popular there. But pro sports always outsell minor leagues, so I'd still like to see them try.

 

[SladeWilson23]

Phoenix, obviously for me.


Also, Hell, Michigan. We can relocate the Devils there.

Only if Miro Satan hired in some capacity with the team.