Speculation: Any chance Dubas tries to re-coop draft picks this week?
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I would assume we trade down
Watch for us to have a very Russia heavy draft if we get a bunch of midrounders. as it appears that half the teams are not going to touch that place with a 10 foot pole
Watch for us to have a very Russia heavy draft if we get a bunch of midrounders. as it appears that half the teams are not going to touch that place with a 10 foot pole
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Hopefully they can get a conditional pick by trading Mik's rights (4th or 5th). Same if they can't sign Campbell.
The only other hope is dealing those bubble guys (Holl, Kerfoot) for potential 2nds or 3rds, or maybe packaging Sandin and our 1st for something between 15 and 20.
The only other hope is dealing those bubble guys (Holl, Kerfoot) for potential 2nds or 3rds, or maybe packaging Sandin and our 1st for something between 15 and 20.
DarkKnight
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It’s starting to feel like some of our past failures are catching up with us.
And watch what the return is for Holl, people here pumping his tires with certain stats, watch how the paltry return doesn’t quite jive with it all.
And watch what the return is for Holl, people here pumping his tires with certain stats, watch how the paltry return doesn’t quite jive with it all.
Kerfoot as well...
If we get a 5 for mik we're extremely lucky. Rights are not worth very much especially for someone expecting a large pay raise
DarkKnight
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Kerfoot should be an okay return, he’s a useful player at times.
Our prospect pool is thin, the cheap influx of young players is waning…
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I feel like that will be one of the more entertaining days of the summer.
Well good news is da 3 Russian scouts are no longer with team .. contracted by Florida now .. my guess is leafs decided da strategy was not working out as planned .. i highly doubt we even take one Russian .. if Beck lasts to 25 I think he will be our pick but there are 3 other teams before us in draft interested in him
Our prospect pool is the opposite of thin. Just outside of LW we don't have many top-end prospects, we have lots of guys with NHL potential.
We also have a lot of younger players on the team and are contenders, it is not surprising we don't have a top 5 prospect pool.
The issue has been the Hunter drafts were terrible, the Dubas drafts look better so far, but time will tell, this year we should start seeing if that is true.
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Hunter drafts? it will be six drafts ago. Isn’t that outdated now? We are bottom third prospect pool.
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“This list of prospects isn’t going to bring people out of their seats anytime soon”
NHL Scout's Analysis: Breaking down the Maple Leafs' prospect pool
After assessing the pro roster and next steps the Maple Leafs could take, former NHL scout Jason Bukala looks at Toronto's prospect pipeline and analyzes the key players.
Every organization has a couple prospects, and btw the Hunter excuse is lame, this is Dubas’s fifth draft.
If we move on from sandin we will have 0 Dubas picks on the roster.
Our younger players are
Lily(5/6 D) a "Lou" pick
The 3 forwards 24-24-25
Bunting who we brought in and is 27 next year
Engval (25)
Our back up goalie
What young players are pushing every player from 2018 to now from being on the team.
Knies is the one prospect that looks NHL ready and we can't convince him to leave college.
Our prospect pool is at best middle of the pack in every ranking. Saying we have no real stud prospects but a lot of "NHL potential" is the definition of a mid to low tier pool if they're not surefire NHL dudes it's a crap shoot.
Add that to the fact that graduates are usually not on the list and we should be way higher because we haven't graduated anyone.
“This list of prospects isn’t going to bring people out of their seats anytime soon”
NHL Scout's Analysis: Breaking down the Maple Leafs' prospect pool
After assessing the pro roster and next steps the Maple Leafs could take, former NHL scout Jason Bukala looks at Toronto's prospect pipeline and analyzes the key players.www.sportsnet.ca
Every organization has a couple prospects, and btw the Hunter excuse is lame, this is Dubas’s fifth draft.
Quickly skimmed, mind pointing to the part where they rank the pool against other teams? I couldn't find that.
DarkKnight
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I’m factoring in the paltry three picks we have this year as well, look at the lists after the draft.
Who has the time, you’re still blaming Hunter lol.
Robertson, Knies, Kral, Douglas, Steeves, Abruzzese, and Holmberg could all push for a spot this year (not sure Kral is a Dubas pick and some are signings)
In the coming years Amirov, Hirvonen, Niemela, Kokkenen, and Voit all look like they have decent shots to me.
We will start to see if any of these guys make it, but I think at least 6-7 of these guys get games in the next 2-3 years, if not more.
Who has the time, you’re still blaming Hunter lol.
Was just asking genuinely since you posted an article claiming it said we had a bottom-third prospect pool and I couldn't see where it said that. The three articles I just looked at had us 15, 15, 6.
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I mean we always have some prospects, recall people used to pump up our prospect pool when Johnny Mitchell was coming up, doesn’t mean anything.
Bottom third after this draft, I’ll stand by it. That said, still some intrigue, but the fact you’re trading away picks eventually costs you, seems common sense.
Bottom third after this draft, I’ll stand by it. That said, still some intrigue, but the fact you’re trading away picks eventually costs you, seems common sense.
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“This list of prospects isn’t going to bring people out of their seats anytime soon”
NHL Scout's Analysis: Breaking down the Maple Leafs' prospect pool
After assessing the pro roster and next steps the Maple Leafs could take, former NHL scout Jason Bukala looks at Toronto's prospect pipeline and analyzes the key players.
Every organization has a couple prospects, and btw the Hunter excuse is lame, this is Dubas’s fifth draft.
one sportsnet article doesn't really prove your point lmao
I'd say Robertson, Amirov, Knies, and Niemela are all blue-chip or close to it.
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No you’re right, we have a top end prospect pool.
Last week the Fan Marlies guy was saying there isn’t much there compared to other teams, I’ll forward your laughter on to him.
This place….
kerk
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quick google search
preseason:
EP Rinkside 2021-22 Prospect Pool Rankings: No. 15-ranked Toronto Maple Leafs - EP Rinkside - 15th
The Journey: 2021 NHL Prospect Pool Rankings - 16th
midseason:
The NHL’s Best Farm Systems Ranked - 2021-22 Midseason Update - 15th
Wheeler: 2022 NHL prospect pool rankings - paywall, but 15th
but show me bottom 3rd
Not to mention, the idea that we should be using picks that won't be ready for a few years on our weaknesses NOW...
Your claim was that we had a lot of younger players on the team currently that is keeping our list from being more highly ranked that's incorrect. We have also had a 4th line that has been made of vet min dudes a lot of guys like Nick A and Anderson would be on that line if they were ready to be.
As for the players above which of them have showed you anything in the past
The marlies have looked pretty bad in call ups Holmberg has rarely played on NA ice and even the dude that runs the marlies thinks that Douglas is 3/4 more years away
The ones in later drafts could make it who knows that's why they're prospects expecting Amirov to do anything after a brain tumor is unrealistic.
If we had a good pool wed have more then the "possibly" of maybe one player being on the roster this year.
Knies seems like the one that can be considered a bonified nhl readyprospect but we have seem to have pissed him off for whatever reason. Hopefully he can be basically free trade deadline add for us After the NCAA season
