Proposal: Anthony Mantha to MTL

[Pigskin]

Mantha is available for a 7th if I were GM, but I'm not paying to get rid of him

1 year left, new coach, we will take a punt on him bouncing back and riding it out

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

The only way that Mantha is in Montreal next season is if Washington's 1st or possibly 2nd is coming back as payment for taking him. Even then I doubt HuGo want such a notorious bum in the lineup.

 

[samsagat]

Mantha for Armia would be fair

Armia is paid 3,4 mil vs 5,7 mil for Mantha, but has one year more on his contract.
So 2,3 less on the cap but 1,1 more total.

Armia is better defensively, Mantha has the better offensive upside.

Seems like a win-win to me

 

[raymond23]

I think you are mistaken on his contract. He has one year left at $5.7M then he’s a UFA after next season. He may be slightly overpaid but you could do a lot worse than Mantha for a year with that cap hit.

Mantha is a sad case to me. He was a good two-way middle six forward this season for Washington on pace for 20+ goals and 50 points through December and doing it all at even strength and then his game just fell off a cliff the second half. He has no confidence right now as Laviolette has handled him terribly and he’s overthinking everything. They’re also not utilizing his shot properly or deploying him on the PP. He’s been remarkably unlucky when it comes to finishing during his time in DC but he’s generally had strong underlying metrics.

My hope is that a new coach can rebuild his confidence and use him properly. He’s still a good player albeit a bit underwhelming given his combination of size and skill. I don’t think he’ll ever be a dominant top line winger like his size and skill set would allow him to be but that doesn’t mean he’s a bad player either.

New team, new coach, new season... same story

It's never going to change for Mantha unfortunately

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Mantha is available for a 7th if I were GM, but I'm not paying to get rid of him

1 year left, new coach, we will take a punt on him bouncing back and riding it out

No one is giving up any value for a capdump.

 

[NyQuil]

It would be funny to ship out a guy like Mike Hoffman and bring in a guy like Anthony Mantha.

 

[McJedi]

A team getting Mantha for cheap for one year is much less risky than needing to get involved in what’s going to be a terrible UFA class this summer. Also, if, as you said he’s going to have value in February and you can acquire him for cheap this summer, that seems like smart asset management.

If Washington retains this summer, fully agree he’d have some solid trade value. If they don’t retain, he won’t.

I don’t think you’d even get a 6th round pick for him without retention.

 

[MXD]

It would be funny to ship out a guy like Mike Hoffman and bring in a guy like Anthony Mantha.

I'd do this move everyday from Montreal's perspective.

(Barring requiring the capspace of course)

 

[NyQuil]

I'd do this move everyday from Montreal's perspective.

(Barring requiring the capspace of course)

I’m not sure Mantha is the guy you want around a young team developing an identity.

Maybe I’ve got him pegged wrong.

 

[MXD]

I’m not sure Mantha is the guy you want around a young team developing an identity.

Maybe I’ve got him pegged wrong.

Well, you don't want Hoffman either...

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Just what we need, another heartless overpaid winger, it's not like we have many of these already...

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Mantha for Armia would be fair

Armia is paid 3,4 mil vs 5,7 mil for Mantha, but has one year more on his contract.
So 2,3 less on the cap but 1,1 more total.

Armia is better defensively, Mantha has the better offensive upside.

Seems like a win-win to me

I would do that, just to get rid of Armia sooner.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Habs board : Bless 2 games until Drouin is gone
Also habs fans : let's Get Mantha.

I find Mantha lazy and unmotivated. Not a player i would want in my top6

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

I’m so glad Detroit traded him when we did

 

[dirtydanglez]

I’m so glad Detroit traded him when we did

why? detroit has nothing to show for it but $2m in dead cap.

 

[ole ole]

Mantha for Armia would be fair

Armia is paid 3,4 mil vs 5,7 mil for Mantha, but has one year more on his contract.
So 2,3 less on the cap but 1,1 more total.

Armia is better defensively, Mantha has the better offensive upside.

Seems like a win-win to me

ya this is about the only way i would trade for Mantha.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Mantha vs Armia

That's the only thing in the whole thread trade wise that makes any sense outside the poster that mentioned Carolina. Even still Carolina would need an incentive.

 

[1909]

For Hoffman ? Anytime.

 

[Mersss]

Mantha is available for a 7th if I were GM, but I'm not paying to get rid of him

1 year left, new coach, we will take a punt on him bouncing back and riding it

Mantha is in a similar position to Monahan last year...

 

[Drake1588]

Washington would certainly give him away, and bank the cap savings. If the idea is here's Montreal's overpaid crap for the Caps' overpaid crap, the Capitals will probably just keep the player they know.

I'm not convinced a buyout isn't the way this goes, though I'm sure they'll plumb the depths of the trade market for a taker first. Maybe someone wants him for a player making half as much, somewhere.

Proposals for guys with any more than one year left are likely dead on arrival. The idea is to get out from under bad contracts as early as possible, not to deal one mistake for a mistake with more long-term consequences. There would be zero interest in Armia and his extra year, I suspect. Keep Mantha, and it's over in 2024. Armia is a problem through 2025.

My expectation is that Mantha plays out his final year for the Caps, and continues to be rather disappointing.

 

[Monsterrain]

He sucks. We’ll take a bag of pucks for him.

 

[deca guard]

most have said thru the years that mantha is lazy . ive always said ok maybe , but it pisses me off because not enough fans have taken into account motor / energy level . he may not have been born with elite athlete level heart strength or lung size which would be enabling him to keep nhl pace , and no matter how hard he trains he cant improve that aspect of his game . and if you dont have that elite nhl energy level it dont matter how big n talented you are your not going to be able to generate alot of high percentage chances .

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Eller just went for a 2nd at the deadline. We arent giving picks back to take Mantha. As show by last trade deadline we dont have problems retaining salary to make a trade work. I think his value would be less before the draft/free agents but after we pay for most his contract teams will want him.

 

[Tanknomore]

Habs offer a 7th for
Martha, and a 2nd in 2024

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

I think you are mistaken on his contract. He has one year left at $5.7M then he’s a UFA after next season. He may be slightly overpaid but you could do a lot worse than Mantha for a year with that cap hit.

Mantha is a sad case to me. He was a good two-way middle six forward this season for Washington on pace for 20+ goals and 50 points through December and doing it all at even strength and then his game just fell off a cliff the second half. He has no confidence right now as Laviolette has handled him terribly and he’s overthinking everything. They’re also not utilizing his shot properly or deploying him on the PP. He’s been remarkably unlucky when it comes to finishing during his time in DC but he’s generally had strong underlying metrics.

My hope is that a new coach can rebuild his confidence and use him properly. He’s still a good player albeit a bit underwhelming given his combination of size and skill. I don’t think he’ll ever be a dominant top line winger like his size and skill set would allow him to be but that doesn’t mean he’s a bad player either.

No, that's on Mantha. He did the same stuff in Detroit. He's an exceptionally skilled player with an exceptionally low drive for being great.

It's not coaching with Mantha. And if you do believe it's coaching... he needs a red ass coach, not a player's coach. When he had great stretches in Detroit, it's beacuse they rode him and pointed out how lazy he was.