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Proposal: Anthony Mantha to MTL

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Not sure whats his value but he seems to be struggling in Washington. Not quite the right fit. What would it take from Montreal to get him?
 
They would probably just be happy to dump him. Some on caps board would even buy him out but I think there would be some takers for one year of Mantha
 
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Better off hoping he catches fire next year deal him at deadline....Right now you would be selling low imo...
 
Montreal shouldn’t even offer a 7th round pick for that contract.

When are some of you going to figure out that overpaid wingers with term have no trade value in the flat cap world? Cut this player and he’d sail right thru waivers unclaimed.
 
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FerrisRox said:
It would probably require a fairly serious head injury to Kent Hughes.
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only 1 year left, I wonder what the add would be to make Montreal interested in him.
I dont think Montreal will be contending next season, to gain some decent extra assets for 1 season might not be that bad of an idea.
then if he has a good season MTL can possibly retain 50% to get even more.
might not be that bad of an idea to acquire Mantha. but I wouldnt give up anything other than future considerations for him or like a 7th
 
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If we're not keeping Gurianov and can figure out a way to dump Hoffman/Armia, there would definitely be a spot in the line-up for 1 year of Mantha, especially if the Caps are dumping him cheap.

Dare I even say, a Hoffman-Mantha swap (both have 1 year left) change of scenary style for both. Caps actually save some cap space here.
 
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McJedi said:
Montreal shouldn’t even offer a 7th round pick for that contract.

When are some of you going to figure out that overpaid wingers with term have no trade value in the flat cap world? Cut this player and he’d sail right thru waivers unclaimed.
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I think you are mistaken on his contract. He has one year left at $5.7M then he’s a UFA after next season. He may be slightly overpaid but you could do a lot worse than Mantha for a year with that cap hit.

Mantha is a sad case to me. He was a good two-way middle six forward this season for Washington on pace for 20+ goals and 50 points through December and doing it all at even strength and then his game just fell off a cliff the second half. He has no confidence right now as Laviolette has handled him terribly and he’s overthinking everything. They’re also not utilizing his shot properly or deploying him on the PP. He’s been remarkably unlucky when it comes to finishing during his time in DC but he’s generally had strong underlying metrics.

My hope is that a new coach can rebuild his confidence and use him properly. He’s still a good player albeit a bit underwhelming given his combination of size and skill. I don’t think he’ll ever be a dominant top line winger like his size and skill set would allow him to be but that doesn’t mean he’s a bad player either.
 
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Number 57 said:
If we're not keeping Gurianov and can figure out a way to dump Hoffman/Armia, there would definitely be a spot in the line-up for 1 year of Mantha, especially if the Caps are dumping him cheap.

Dare I even say, a Hoffman-Mantha swap (both have 1 year left) change of scenary style for both. Caps actually save some cap space here.
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Hard pass on a Mantha-Hoffman swap for me. Hoffman has slightly better production overall but Mantha has produced more this year at even strength and has much better defensive metrics. Plus, Hoffman wouldn’t get any PP time in Washington.

Also Washington has already hit its threshold for 30+ year old wingers with declining production so he’s disqualified from joining the Caps.
 
Mantha has really fallen off a cliff. Remember when trade ideas sending him to Montreal were laughed at because there was no way the Canadiens could come up with a suitable return?
 
I think Mantha is the type of guy Montreal would take a gamble on, but it would have to be money in/out or close too it, and Washington would have to take a winger (or two back).

Guys like: Hoffman, Gurianov (rights), Armia, or potentially Edmondson would have to go back the other way. I could see Montreal adding a low pick and/or average prospect as well, since they have a boatload.
 
McJedi said:
Montreal shouldn’t even offer a 7th round pick for that contract.

When are some of you going to figure out that overpaid wingers with term have no trade value in the flat cap world? Cut this player and he’d sail right thru waivers unclaimed.
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Agree but for the record its (again) not Wsh offering, its Mtl asking.
 
Mantha at this point isn't worth his contract. Nobody in their right mind should consider him at full cap hit without a bad contract heading the other way.

I don't even understand why the OP would have any interest unless Washington is adding a 1st to move the contract and use the freed up cap elsewhere.

A Mantha trade should be resembling the Monahan trade or it shouldn't be happening.
 
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He'd be a good one year pickup for just about any team that can afford him and has space in the lineup, hf as usual has no clue about player-coach-team dynamics and just looks at the stat sheet. Carolina probably gets him a la Pacioretty with their bottomless cap space next yeaer

malcb33 said:
I think Mantha is the type of guy Montreal would take a gamble on, but it would have to be money in/out or close too it, and Washington would have to take a winger (or two back).

Guys like: Hoffman, Gurianov (rights), Armia, or potentially Edmondson would have to go back the other way. I could see Montreal adding a low pick and/or average prospect as well, since they have a boatload.
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Mantha + something small for Gurianov and Edmundson would be a win win imo
 
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It definitely could make sense as Mantha's player profile is definitely something we would need and our left side is pretty weak. I could see a few scenarios working. None of these offers are super great for Washington and I get that but the benefit would be cap space for next year though depending on which scenario they may have a hit the following year though.

Armia - Washington saves 2.3 million in cap but they take on an extra year. Their right side is strong but I've also seen questions as to whether or not Wilson gets moved so maybe that opens a spot.

Dvorak - Saves 1.25 million but gets an extra year in a similar way to Armia. With Backstrom being all but done and Kuznetsov wanting out, they might be interested in a center.

Hoffman (retention?) (least likely to happen) - Washington would save at least 1 million (or 3 with full retention) on cap and the deal ends same time as Mantha.
 
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Ovi895 said:
He'd be a good one year pickup for just about any team that can afford him and has space in the lineup, hf as usual has no clue about player-coach-team dynamics and just looks at the stat sheet. Carolina probably gets him a la Pacioretty with their bottomless cap space next yeaer



Mantha + something small for Gurianov and Edmundson would be a win win imo
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I don't think that's a win for Montreal. Edmundson makes 2.5 million less and could probably fetch a couple of 2nds, maybe 2nd and 3rd at the next trade deadline or maybe a prospect.
Gurianov is irrelevant; habs don't even need to qualify him
 
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