Value of: Anthony Cirelli

[frontsfan67]

If Tampa is trading any forward. Cirelli would go on my do not trade list.

Guys 27 and keeps getting better and better. Got nominated for a selke. Good 2C on any team- just because he doesn’t put up 100 points people are going to devalue him from being one of the best defensive forwards in the league? Look at Patrice Bergeron and Jonathan Toews. That’s the kind of guys you want on your team.

Tampa lost to the likely soon to be back to back cup champs. No shame there. No need to trade one of your better players in the prime of their career.

 

[dgibb10]

You can have both my kidney's for him.

Literally whatever it takes tbh.

 

[kings11]

Danault and Clarke from the Kings seems like a fit.

Yeah that’s a f*** no from the Kings

 

[CowbellConray]

He is RoR level of two way talent. I dont think he has the top end offensive skill to be a 90 point center - but I do think he could be a 75 point Lindholm/RoR type player if given the usage.

That should be worth quite a haul if truly on the block

 

[Chainshot]

He is RoR level of two way talent. I dont think he has the top end offensive skill to be a 90 point center - but I do think he could be a 75 point Lindholm/RoR type player if given the usage.

That should be worth quite a haul if truly on the block

I don't know if he's at what peak O'Reilly is able of doing. By age 22 ROR had a 60-point season under his belt, something Cirelli hasn't yet done at age 27. Broadening that out, O'Reilly has 10 50-point or better seasons for his career, Cirelli only has 1 (this year). Maybe there is more to unlock in his scoring game if he plays as a 1C where he's covering for someone, but he was still playing with Hagel most of the year and this was his best season. A solid 40-50 point guy doing defensive lifting sure, not ready to put him in with the likes of O'Reilly or even the few years of peak Lindholm yet.

 

[Perratrooper]

Colorado would be happy to trade Colton+ for Cirelli, but I’m not sure Tampa would ever consider that sort of move

 

[Colezuki]

As others have said, I think Cirelli stays, I remember hearing from Friedmann once that Tampa keeps trading first rounders because they will ride this core until they can't get it done and once they do they'll blow it up and trade it all for futures (Hedman,Kuch,Vasi,Point and Cirelli). Given they just got bounced in the 1st round but finished as 3rd in the East I'd say it's more likely they look at someone like a Duchene to kind of build up the core then blow it up just yet.

 

[Beerz]

I think Tuch wants to stay in Buffalo, and that was part of the reason that JBB didn't acquire him at the TDL (that and the assets required, no doubt). If Tampa could get a top 4 RD that saved them reasonable cap space (like R. Andersson perhaps), and JBB felt good about acquiring a top 6 C in ufa, maybe. Those options are all 33/34+ though (Duchene, Nelson, Tavares) aside from Bennett (if he makes it to ufa). I'd still put the chances that he's moved at 5-10% tops.

Tuch may want to... We will see what the wife says.

 

[CowbellConray]

I don't know if he's at what peak O'Reilly is able of doing. By age 22 ROR had a 60-point season under his belt, something Cirelli hasn't yet done at age 27. Broadening that out, O'Reilly has 10 50-point or better seasons for his career, Cirelli only has 1 (this year). Maybe there is more to unlock in his scoring game if he plays as a 1C where he's covering for someone, but he was still playing with Hagel most of the year and this was his best season. A solid 40-50 point guy doing defensive lifting sure, not ready to put him in with the likes of O'Reilly or even the few years of peak Lindholm yet.

O'Reilly at his prime was a 60-75 point #1C avg. 21 minutes a game with roughly 49% ES O-zone deployment
Cirelli over the past 4 years:
Averages 45-50 points a year
Averages 18 minutes a game
44% O-zone start at ES
Roughly 35-40 ES points a season

If he were to get #1C Minutes and PP usage, I think he would be right up there with ROR when it comes to production as a 65-70 point two way monster.

I think ROR at the time of his trade to Buffalo and STL was worth more, but I'd give a haul for Cirelli and give him 52-52% O-zone starts and some actual power play time and see if I can unlock another level of production out of him

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I am not a fan of moving Cirelli, anything we get back would be a downgrade most likely. His value and production are good value. There is only really 1 or 2 players I would consider moving him for in a fairly lateral move, but would still be unrealistic in my opinion for both parties.

I would like Eriksson Ek or Matt Boldy. I don't see Minnesota ever considering that move. Although I do feel Eriksson Ek for Cirelli 1 for 1 is pretty close to fair value and benefits both teams in different ways.

Otherwise, I just don't see the value in moving Cirelli at all.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'd really like him from a Leafs perspective but we're awful trading partners along with being divisional rivals.

 

[Canovin]

You probably need good wingers or already have good wingers if you're bringing him in.

 

[tsujimoto74]

He is RoR level of two way talent. I dont think he has the top end offensive skill to be a 90 point center - but I do think he could be a 75 point Lindholm/RoR type player if given the usage.

That should be worth quite a haul if truly on the block

He just spent most of this past season stapled to a 90-point Hagel, had a career high sh%, and a high PDO and still didn’t get remotely close to sniffing 75 points. He’s simply not that level of talent. Great defensive player. Mid offensive player.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

O'Reilly at his prime was a 60-75 point #1C avg. 21 minutes a game with roughly 49% ES O-zone deployment
Cirelli over the past 4 years:
Averages 45-50 points a year
Averages 18 minutes a game
44% O-zone start at ES
Roughly 35-40 ES points a season

If he were to get #1C Minutes and PP usage, I think he would be right up there with ROR when it comes to production as a 65-70 point two way monster.

I think ROR at the time of his trade to Buffalo and STL was worth more, but I'd give a haul for Cirelli and give him 52-52% O-zone starts and some actual power play time and see if I can unlock another level of production out of him

Having watched him for years now, I don't think he does that. I think you might see a repeat of this seasons performance if not a slight bump of a few points, but for the most part he just doesn't have the offensive creativity that ROR does. I say this as someone who is very much against trading Cirelli, too.