Value of: Anthony Cirelli

[Guitpik]

Clarke was an elite prospect and will probably be a top-pairing RHD. Regardless of what other teams are willing to pay for Clarke, the Kings shouldn't trade him for Cirelli straight up, let alone adding Danault.

This, not that Cirelli isn’t worth a look, but Kings need to be building around the young core that Clarke is part of.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

Really good player in his prime on a sweetheart deal on one the the sharpest teams in the league? Good luck.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Tampa are not trading Cirelli. Dumb to think they would.

 

[DFC]

Tampa are not trading Cirelli. Dumb to think they would.

I think we will explore it. We pretty clearly need an upgrade and he's our most valuable piece that doesn't have trade protection.

Nobody thought we would trade Sergachev either, but it was the right move.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Hear me out:

To Montreal:
Cirelli
5th

To Tampa:
Dach
Newhook
Laine(50% retained)
6th

Who says no? This ragtag group of all-stars includes a 2nd, 3rd, and 16th overall pick, your guy was a 3rd rounder!

Tampa says no. Quite quickly.

 

[Doublechin]

From the Habs

2025 first
2025 second
Owen Beck/Oliver Kapanen
Logan Mailloux

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I think we will explore it. We pretty clearly need an upgrade and he's our most valuable piece that doesn't have trade protection.

Nobody thought we would trade Sergachev either, but it was the right move.

I think it would be a huge, HUGE mistake.

It would be one thing if he was 34 like Stamkos and exiting his prime.

But he's 27 and was just nominated for the Selke.

That feels like a player you keep.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Hear me out:

To Montreal:
Cirelli
5th

To Tampa:
Dach
Newhook
Laine(50% retained)
6th

Who says no? This ragtag group of all-stars includes a 2nd, 3rd, and 16th overall pick, your guy was a 3rd rounder!

lol, throws in all the crap Habs don’t want, for Cirelli. Funny one.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Hear me out:

To Montreal:
Cirelli
5th

To Tampa:
Dach
Newhook
Laine(50% retained)
6th

Who says no? This ragtag group of all-stars includes a 2nd, 3rd, and 16th overall pick, your guy was a 3rd rounder!

That’s awful and you know it

 

[DFC]

I think it would be a huge, HUGE mistake.

It would be one thing if he was 34 like Stamkos and exiting his prime.

But he's 27 and was just nominated for the Selke.

That feels like a player you keep.

They're all either players we should keep or players we have to keep. But we need changes, and we need a big piece coming back. Can't get that with scraps.

 

[JTBF81]

I think we will explore it. We pretty clearly need an upgrade and he's our most valuable piece that doesn't have trade protection.

Nobody thought we would trade Sergachev either, but it was the right move.

Some thought Serg would be moved last summer, because they had brought back McD and with the cap situation, he was most expendable and valuable. Tampa has no one to replace Cirelli, so unless JBB gets some incredible offer that he can't pass up and still has the cap space after to address 2C via ufa, I highly doubt Cirelli is getting shopped.

 

[DFC]

Some thought Serg would be moved last summer, because they had brought back McD and with the cap situation, he was most expendable and valuable. Tampa has no one to replace Cirelli, so unless JBB gets some incredible offer that he can't pass up and still has the cap space after to address 2C via ufa, I highly doubt Cirelli is getting shopped.

I thought the Serg move was inevitable.

Cirelli I think will be explored. I think we are gonna circle back on Buffalo about Tuch. Which will save us a few bucks to go toward a center.

Not saying it's probable by any means, but if we tried to land Tuch that hard at the TDL, I don't see us not looking back into it with a bit more cap space to help replace the losses.

 

[Zman5778]

Cirelli I think will be explored. I think we are gonna circle back on Buffalo about Tuch.

The ONLY way Tuch goes anywhere is if he tells Kevyn that he's not re-signing with us.

 

[JTBF81]

I thought the Serg move was inevitable.

Cirelli I think will be explored. I think we are gonna circle back on Buffalo about Tuch. Which will save us a few bucks to go toward a center.

Not saying it's probable by any means, but if we tried to land Tuch that hard at the TDL, I don't see us not looking back into it with a bit more cap space to help replace the losses.

I think Tuch wants to stay in Buffalo, and that was part of the reason that JBB didn't acquire him at the TDL (that and the assets required, no doubt). If Tampa could get a top 4 RD that saved them reasonable cap space (like R. Andersson perhaps), and JBB felt good about acquiring a top 6 C in ufa, maybe. Those options are all 33/34+ though (Duchene, Nelson, Tavares) aside from Bennett (if he makes it to ufa). I'd still put the chances that he's moved at 5-10% tops.

 

[DFC]

I think Tuch wants to stay in Buffalo, and that was part of the reason that JBB didn't acquire him at the TDL (that and the assets required, no doubt). If Tampa could get a top 4 RD that saved them reasonable cap space (like R. Andersson perhaps), and JBB felt good about acquiring a top 6 C in ufa, maybe. Those options are all 33/34+ though (Duchene, Nelson, Tavares) aside from Bennett (if he makes it to ufa). I'd still put the chances that he's moved at 5-10% tops.

I'd put it at 20%. It seemed like we weren't willing to deal roster pieces, but that could change in the off-season.

It seems clear that we need more physicality in the top6, or at least someone who can fight through physicality. That probably will require a hockey trade.

I don't think JBB will, or should, bet big on Geekie taking a step.

 

[majormajor]

If you're trying to contend for a Cup, is Cirelli a true 2C or is he more of a high end 3C? I get the Selke part, but his 59 points this year were the highest total of his career - for context, who is he playing with on TBL? He's making $6.25M for 6 more years. IDK.

59 pts is definitely cup winning 2C level, you could come up with a much longer list of cup winning 2Cs with closer to 50 or even less (see William Karlsson or Sam Bennett).

I get the impression that Cirelli's inconsistency and durability are more of an issue in Tampa? Perhaps Tampa fans can correct me on that. But his normal level at his contract and 2C role is excellent.

 

[JTBF81]

I'd put it at 20%. It seemed like we weren't willing to deal roster pieces, but that could change in the off-season.

It seems clear that we need more physicality in the top6, or at least someone who can fight through physicality. That probably will require a hockey trade.

I don't think JBB will, or should, bet big on Geekie taking a step.

Tampa gets worse almost anyway they go if they trade Cirelli. As long as JBB sees them as a contender, a player like Cirelli shouldn't be moved I unless a comparable replacement is available in the system or via ufa. I really don't see it from either area, and with JBB talking about not making major changes this summer, I don't see Cirelli being realistically shopped.

 

[SensontheRush]

Cirelli has got to be the most overrated guy in the league.

 

[DFC]

59 pts is definitely cup winning 2C level, you could come up with a much longer list of cup winning 2Cs with closer to 50 or even less (see William Karlsson or Sam Bennett).

I get the impression that Cirelli's inconsistency and durability are more of an issue in Tampa? Perhaps Tampa fans can correct me on that. But his normal level at his contract and 2C role is excellent.

I don't think anyone believes he performed below expectations. This was his best year. It's more that he doesn't have trade protection, and we seem to need a major piece.

 

[DFC]

Tampa gets worse almost anyway they go if they trade Cirelli. As long as JBB sees them as a contender, a player like Cirelli shouldn't be moved I unless a comparable replacement is available in the system or via ufa. I really don't see it from either area, and with JBB talking about not making major changes this summer, I don't see Cirelli being realistically shopped.

Jbb also said we weren't going to move Sergachev about 48 hours before we moved him.

It would need to make sense, of course. We would have to have a C coming in from UFA or another trade.

 

[HanTykje]

Itsn any Fabrizio Romano of NHL rumours?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

They're all either players we should keep or players we have to keep. But we need changes, and we need a big piece coming back. Can't get that with scraps.

I agree you need changes, I just think trading a Selke nominated center is the wrong change.

I'm not sure what your cap space looks like but I think you need to add a top 6 forward.

And a legitimate backup goalie.

 

[DFC]

I agree you need changes, I just think trading a Selke nominated center is the wrong change.

I'm not sure what your cap space looks like but I think you need to add a top 6 forward.

And a legitimate backup goalie.

We do, and we need a top6 W who can play through physicality. But we don't have a lot of guys without trade protection to acquire that.

 

[JTBF81]

Jbb also said we weren't going to move Sergachev about 48 hours before we moved him.

It would need to make sense, of course. We would have to have a C coming in from UFA or another trade.

Again, no team is trading Tampa a comparable 2C, as Tampa doesn't have the trade assets to make that happen. Unless Bennett makes it to ufa, and JBB thinks he's a better fit than Cirelli ( despite being worse in most areas, and likely more expensive to boot), any of the ufa 2C's that may be available shorten the window even further and don't likely save Tampa any cap. JBB will have over 9 million in cap space, or at least he should. Therr will be some options available to address depth, but moving Cirelli doesn't seem like one of them.

 

[majormajor]

We do, and we need a top6 W who can play through physicality. But we don't have a lot of guys without trade protection to acquire that.

It seems to me that Tampa up front is capable of doing a better job with that. You should have Bjorkstrand next year too, he's not big but he's adept at winning puck battles on the forecheck. Hagel is built for it but he was injured too. Geekie will get better. At what pace, no one knows, but he could make a difference. I would think that the problem on the backend is more serious.