Raccoon Jesus
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And Sean Avery.
Speculation: Another year of this Bluc **** (The 2024-25 season thread)
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And Sean Avery.
The Butcher
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Herby
How could Blake have known?
Spot on about PLD and wrong about Fiala so far and its still an open case.
I want to see the Kings in the playoffs every season, no matter what.
We were not getting there without him and I feel Faber is over ranked and plus the seasons where he was in college or developing.
Just because the good old boys club here agrees, does not mean anything to me.
In fact it makes me skeptical.
I admire the independent thinkers who clearly evaluate the bad and the good.
Unfortunately I had to lift my ignore on you to read around the league post.
I rarely agree with you and don't respect your blow hard posts.
Not really much point in corresponding with me.
No one appointed you the JUdge for commenters here and you are totally biased about it.
It might take a couple more seasons and some luck to not have significant injury concerns but QB will eventually prove you wrong.
Have a nice day out there in Michigan!
Why don't you go on the main polling board here on HF and do a Fiala vs. Faber poll, lets see what the results show. Since apparently you think it's only "The Good Old Boys club" on this forum that is overrating Faber. But I'm sure when the results come back you will just tell everyone else they are wrong and you are right.
Faber who is a star in the league at 22 is overrated, but Byfield who is the same exact age is underrated and has all this untapped potential. Ok. Oh yeah and God forbid he stayed in a great environment at U of Minnesota and developed, rather than spending a season watching his development plateau like every single person under the tutelage of Muzz Murray. Yeah that was a real negative, excellent point!
I couldn't care less what your opinion of me is, you are a joke at this forum and everybody thinks so, you contribute next to nothing towards this community other than coming in and taking shots at people who disagree with you (everyone). You are the most useless poster I've seen in 20+ years posting here. Makes me wonder why someone who is so universally disliked spends so much time here, but hey to each his own. But please add me back to ignore so I'm not notified each time I get one of your stupid laughing reactions. Thanks
Omni Owl
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Yzerman reminds me of Blake as of late. His (now 7 or 8) year rebuild in Detroit looks like its going no where. But even Stevie had some success building Tampa's Cup winning roster, though I think some Bolts fans would dispute that considering he inherited a lot of key pieces, a bit like Lombardi with Dave Taylor. No discredit to Lombardi though, he absolutely took the franchise to that next championship level and knew when to make the right moves.
Surf Nutz
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I am not a project guy like you.
No one on here ever speaks for "everybody."
That's your we are the world attitude and its toxic.
You remind me of the judges we have seen that are purely political hacks against politicians they oppose.
Given my opinion of you, everything you said about me is a compliment and a badge of honor.
You are basically the pre retirement version of Jeremy Roenick, shaking your butt during pre game warm ups, thinking you are or ever were a superstar.
Faber was never gonna sign here either way!
Surf Nutz
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It seems more and more the lengthy rebuild model is just harder and harder to execute in the ever changing NHL.
The expansion team gifted roster perks has been a more successful model in more recent times.
Yzerman had Probert/Kocur/McCarty riding shotgun for him, yet he continues to assemble the softest team.
The Wings are just small, skilled and OLD except for the two towering young D.
The Wings are just small, skilled and OLD except for the two towering young D.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
The Red Wings have just never been able to overcome passing on Quinn Hughes in the 2018 draft, it was a perplexing decision at the time, and its just gotten worse and worse with each dominating season by Hughes, who right now looks like a combination of Brian Leetch and Ray Bourque.
You add Hughes to the Red Wings and it changes so much about their team. If you go Hughes, Seider, Raymond in consecutive years that is a pretty sick trio to build around, and then in 2021 you maybe go forward (Guenther) over another LH d-man, even though Edvinsson has been very good this season and that is a Stanley Cup core for the next decade.
The Kings win no Stanley Cups if they don't draft Doughty and take Bogosian, instead they won two and were the second best team in the NHL the sandwich year. That is how thin the margins of successful and unsuccessful rebuild can be, drafting or not drafting players the caliber of Doughty and Hughes.
You add Hughes to the Red Wings and it changes so much about their team. If you go Hughes, Seider, Raymond in consecutive years that is a pretty sick trio to build around, and then in 2021 you maybe go forward (Guenther) over another LH d-man, even though Edvinsson has been very good this season and that is a Stanley Cup core for the next decade.
The Kings win no Stanley Cups if they don't draft Doughty and take Bogosian, instead they won two and were the second best team in the NHL the sandwich year. That is how thin the margins of successful and unsuccessful rebuild can be, drafting or not drafting players the caliber of Doughty and Hughes.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I really like Kasper too, he's not big but he's tenacious, like a 6'1 Lizotte.
Don't ever mention Kopitar's name to Ottawa fans, on that note!
Herby
How could Blake have known?
Ottawa, Vancouver and San Jose probably all win cups if they draft Anze Kopitar in 2005 instead of Brian Lee, Luc Bourdon (RIP) and Devin Setoguchi.
Anaheim wins more than one and Chicago might go down as one the best teams in NHL history (assuming they were still bad enough in 07 to draft Kane).
Thin line
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Chicago...man. We were one series away from threepeating; they were one series away from 4 in 6 including a threepeat. Monster franchises for that era.
But yeah one pick in either direction and everything changes massively. Including 2004 with Cam Barker for them, imagine snagging Malkin instead!
AbsentMojo
F-ing get up and hunt! Cmon Todd!
Gav to me is basically Roy.. no way i spend that much on him unless forced to... re his phone celebration, he scores goals so infrequently he bought a flip phone and has a text only plan.The one I saw had a few names, including Blake, listed.
Edit: I'd welcome Gavrikov back at 8.5 if Doughty is traded. There! I said it!!
If Kings don’t plan on re-signing Gav they need to move him.
We lost Grans, Walker, Durzi and Roy for little or nothing.
We lost Grans, Walker, Durzi and Roy for little or nothing.
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And now we get to be on the losing side of those thin margins, because it looks like Blake traded away the only young players that were panning out (Vilardi, Faber, Durzi to name a few) and kept those that are stagnating (Byfield, Turcotte, Spence). Although Spence and Byfield still have some time. At least Clarke looks to be the most promising young gun that we still kept.
Peter James Bond III
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The best off season move was signing Foegele.
He’s been pretty consistent, works hard and capable of making plays and popping in some goals. Can play on any line. PK too. Hell, I bet if they gave him a shot on the abysmal pp, he may produce there.
I wish they had not signed Edmundson. 4 years and will block one or more of: Kirsanov, Dvorak, Booth. None of these players are good enough to play on top 4, unless they are miscast as a top 4 like MacDermid and Forbort were. Maybe Kirsanov has the ability to, but not out of the gate. Booth honestly looks like he has a good feel for the game and I like him a lot. I’m glad Dvorak is with the Reign and playing. If he went back to Europe or another yr in WHL, may end up taking years. At least Greene and O’Donnell do a decent job w D development. Murray and Donnelly? Not so much. If they’re going to hire only former Kings for development, hire Nicholls. Lol
It’s not like Moverare couldn’t have done an adequate job as 3 LHD.
QB has been so disappointing; especially after seeing him play so well in preseason. He had 2 goals in 20 seconds that one game (hat trick empty net, I think at the end) and now has 2 goals in 20 games?
Not much to be elated about, except that Laferriere is a legit top winger and Turcotte can play well at this level…when he’s healthy. And every time he comes back after an injury, seems he’s about 80% of how he was playing at the time of said injury. Sucks.
Oh, elated that Clarke can play well. But they screw him out of pp1. Sux, as he’s the only one that has a box of tricks and moves - up top. You never know if he’s going to get a sneaky shot thru, make an option 2 or 3 pass, or move around a defender and create option 4. Wtf they remove him?
Oh. Elated that PLD is forever gone. Can you imagine if he was out there, in this mess?
He’s been pretty consistent, works hard and capable of making plays and popping in some goals. Can play on any line. PK too. Hell, I bet if they gave him a shot on the abysmal pp, he may produce there.
I wish they had not signed Edmundson. 4 years and will block one or more of: Kirsanov, Dvorak, Booth. None of these players are good enough to play on top 4, unless they are miscast as a top 4 like MacDermid and Forbort were. Maybe Kirsanov has the ability to, but not out of the gate. Booth honestly looks like he has a good feel for the game and I like him a lot. I’m glad Dvorak is with the Reign and playing. If he went back to Europe or another yr in WHL, may end up taking years. At least Greene and O’Donnell do a decent job w D development. Murray and Donnelly? Not so much. If they’re going to hire only former Kings for development, hire Nicholls. Lol
It’s not like Moverare couldn’t have done an adequate job as 3 LHD.
QB has been so disappointing; especially after seeing him play so well in preseason. He had 2 goals in 20 seconds that one game (hat trick empty net, I think at the end) and now has 2 goals in 20 games?
Not much to be elated about, except that Laferriere is a legit top winger and Turcotte can play well at this level…when he’s healthy. And every time he comes back after an injury, seems he’s about 80% of how he was playing at the time of said injury. Sucks.
Oh, elated that Clarke can play well. But they screw him out of pp1. Sux, as he’s the only one that has a box of tricks and moves - up top. You never know if he’s going to get a sneaky shot thru, make an option 2 or 3 pass, or move around a defender and create option 4. Wtf they remove him?
Oh. Elated that PLD is forever gone. Can you imagine if he was out there, in this mess?
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Peter James Bond III
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Agree! I was hoping they would have used the Edmundson $ on a forward, for sure.
If they can’t sign Gavrikov, trade him at the deadline. And keep the #1 pick as you say, especially with the draft in LA. What fan would want to attend, without seeing 1 King drafted in round 1? Are they going w same format, for that matter? Friday night rd 1, followed by Saturday 2-7. I think I heard Yannetti say on a Mayor pod they are changing format, or something different about it.
Hell, be sellers at deadline and get more picks.
Dealing 2 firsts has hurt, and the big whiff on Hughes rd 2. He hasn’t even scored a goal this yr in BU. His Snr yr, I think. At least Conmy is killing it . Kenny Connors 10 assists (no goals) lol had better start putting some in the net. Denver Freshman James Reeder out scoring Jared Wright there. Wright’s in his 3rd yr. Was hoping he would be scoring more. I know he has top end speed. Yay, Austin Wagner 2.0
I hope Conmy hits 50 pts and signs. Kings badly need skilled forwards that can score. Thankfully, Greentree and Ziemmer are progressing well.
Ziemmer has 19 goals in 15 games in Prince George. Hopefully, he’s not neutered into a 200 foot eunuch by the dev staff next yr. His best hope is to bypass the AHL, ala Laferriere, so they don’t F with him on line 3 in Ontario.
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I haven't been posting much this season. I was diagnosed with ADD at 46 this year. Been grappling a bit with that and also having a difficult work year. Hockey has taking a bit of a back seat this season for me. I just wanted to say the few games I have seem are pretty meh. This team is a bit hard to get excited for. I'm glad Turcotte has come around, I didn't think he was gonna make it. Clarke is a bright spot, he sees plays that others can't. Never thought I'd say it but feeling pretty apathetic about the team this year.
