Speculation: Another year of this Bluc **** (The 2024-25 season thread)

[Statto]

Can we see Akil Thomas in some more games? All he does is win.

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[King'sPawn]

I am guessing part of the reason behind the Moverare waiving is it being a two-year contract, so teams may just look fordepth elsewhere.

Moverare is a good player, but there are plenty of "good" players.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

I just think, should a middle sixer go down, Studnicka is a more natural replacement than Helenius. Plus Helenius' time will come next year for certain if not sooner.

We all know the person that should be waived. Mr. Stone Hands himself. He is the weakest part of the top 12/13.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Coaches going with experience and CJ edged Movey.

Non two way contract is a big commitment for waiver wire.

We will see.

 

[kingsfan28]

Re Moverare I'll take his IQ/positioning over Englund's scrapping ability.. Also the guy deserves some time with the big club over Englund..but overall its not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

Yeah, it may just come down to team toughness over what Mo brings. Mo will never be more than a 6/7 , the league is full of these guys. He will most likely pass through waivers and we may see him a few times next year.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5800306/2024/10/02/los-angeles-kings-2024-25-season-preview-playoff-chances-projected-points-roster-rankings/

The strengths​

We already waxed poetic about Byfield’s upside — this season feels like the one in which the Kings could officially become his team. What makes that prospect especially tantalizing is how the team is setting him up for success — with Fiala riding shotgun on the left side. With Kopitar and Danault soaking up tough minutes, that duo has a real opportunity to feast this season.

They didn’t get much of an opportunity to do that together last season, playing only 63 minutes together, but that time was highly promising, with the pair earning 69 percent of the expected goals. Both players are growing into highly involved players with the puck and should feed off each other well. Foegele on the right side can handle all the dirty work and grades out well as a support second liner. . . .

That’s built from the middle out, a quartet that may lack a true franchise ace but looks quality from top to bottom. The Kings rank seventh in the league at the most important position, which may allow the team to squeeze out more value than projected for here. If the centers drive the bus, the Kings are on the right path.

What really helps is the defensive structure of the top three with Kopitar, Byfield and Danault all projected to have a Defensive Rating of plus-3 or higher. Only one other team — Vegas with Jack Eichel and William Karlsson — has more than one, and only 12 other centers grade out so well. The Kings are loaded with shutdown options down the middle.

The weaknesses​

The Kings have a lot of good players. What they’re missing — as made painfully obvious by three straight playoff defeats at the hands of the Oilers — are truly great players. And losing their best player obviously makes that fact hurt even more.

Franchise cornerstone pieces give a team championship upside. They’re the type of players that raise a team’s ceiling, and the Kings, at the moment anyway, are woefully short.

During the team’s previous championship window, those players included Kopitar and Doughty. In 2024, those players can’t still be Kopitar and Doughty, even if the latter was healthy. Neither has the offensive ability anymore to be leaders at their position, and that puts the Kings behind the best of the West.

It’s likely that Byfield will supplant Kopitar at some point, but the transition to it being his team hasn’t been quick enough to bridge the gap between eras. Clarke will get a massive opportunity this year to be the guy, but that’s a lot of pressure to put on a young player who has yet to prove he’s a full-time NHLer, let alone a difference-maker.

It’s helpful that Kopitar is still as good as he is, but part of the reason that the Kings have been good, but not great, is that no one has stepped up to take the mantle yet. The Kings are still his team, and that’s a problem for a 37-year-old. The clock is ticking on his utility and when it does, the Kings could take a dramatic step back. We’re going to see the risk of that play out on the defensive side over the first few months of the season without Doughty.

Kopitar still rocking out at his age is impressive, but on a contending team, he’s much better suited for a second-line shutdown role. He’s not as involved in the offensive zone or bringing the puck into it, and his ability to create chances ranks really low. He can still win his minutes, but his scoring ability has been steadily second-line caliber in four of the last five seasons. . . .

On top of all that, the other issue is offense. The Kings’ forwards have the fourth-best Defensive Rating in the league, but also the 21st-ranked Offensive Rating at minus-8. That’s made all the more problematic by a lack of offensive utility from the blue line — especially now with Doughty out of the picture. Neither Anderson nor Gavrikov grade out well for their roles, and the presence of both Edmundson and Kyle Burroughs now makes things look painfully dire. That has potential to be one of the league’s worst pairs, a huge black hole.

 

[CarlSneep]

Yeah that sounds about right

 

[Lt Dan]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5800306/2024/10/02/los-angeles-kings-2024-25-season-preview-playoff-chances-projected-points-roster-rankings/

Did they post a prediction about where the Kings would finish the season?

 

[BringTheReign]

Did they post a prediction about where the Kings would finish the season?

I think it's pretty reasonable given Doughty's absence. Him missing half the year could absolutely be the difference between low-90s and missing the playoffs versus high-90s and making it.

This team would've been better off if we'd made zero trades from the Danault signing onward.

 

[Lt Dan]

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I think it's pretty reasonable given Doughty's absence. Him missing half the year could absolutely be the difference between low-90s and missing the playoffs versus high-90s and making it.

This team would've been better off if we'd made zero trades from the Danault signing onward.

Thank you

As someone who is trying to be more optimistic. I am hoping that Doughty missing time has the same effect on Drew that missing time did on Gretzky in '93. A fresh hungry Drew could really change things in the final months of the season

 

[Schrute farms]

Coin flip 50/50 playoff chances seems about right for the Kings. Likely comes down to:
1) if they can get consistent decent goaltending throughout the year; and
2) other mid teams like Winn, St. L, Minn and Utah taking a step up and getting ahead of the Kings

Probably #2 is the most important. I think the best chance for the Kings getting a WC spot is simply the other teams fighting for #7-8 won't be that good.....not so much that the Kings are a good team that truly earns the spot with a near 100 point season.

 

[Sol]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5800306/2024/10/02/los-angeles-kings-2024-25-season-preview-playoff-chances-projected-points-roster-rankings/

They write
“No one stepped up to take the mantle from Kopitar”

Really?

Tell me when they allowed Byfield or anyone take a shot at Kopitars position when Byfield was barely allowed on the ice if ever 3v3. You have a much faster big center riding pine on the bench while Kopitar is “rushing” down the ice on life support.


I do think the Kings lack great players but it’s also a f***ing joke when urinalists act like anyone was ever given the chance.

I think Byfield might really break out this year IF they limit that old dogs ice time at some f***ing point.

Nevertheless, in regards to the playoffs, I think the Kings might make it if Jeannot continues this trajectory. Foegele and Jeannot have been producing despite the fact none of us were all too happy to have them, but their different playstyle is definitely showing and producing. It is adding a different dimension to the Kings compared to last year so I am unsure how big of a difference this will be. Also shedding that cancer PLD is a big deal.

I’m not saying the Kings will be better necessarily but the changes in the offseason might end up making the team better. And with Doughty out right now I think it will be better for the Kings since many younger dmen now will be fighting for ice time.


It’s hard to say, this season is much more unpredictable than the previous ones so I think it’s impossible to have a firm opinion. Either they might seriously suck massive balls or they might take up the challenge these younger newer players.

Also dropping the 1-3-1 itself should produce more points in the standings.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

Moverare cleared.

 

[King'sPawn]

Moverare cleared.

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Since when is Vancouver VCR? Have I been living under a rock?

 

[tny760]

feel kinda bad for moverare at this point but i guess 26 with a few million bucks in your bank account in southern california isn't all bad

 

[KingsFan7824]

Since when is Vancouver VCR? Have I been living under a rock?

Boston should be BSN.

 

[tbrown33]

feel kinda bad for moverare at this point but i guess 26 with a few million bucks in your bank account in southern california isn't all bad

Yeah, at least he is on a one way deal.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

They write
“No one stepped up to take the mantle from Kopitar”

Really?

Tell me when they allowed Byfield or anyone take a shot at Kopitars position when Byfield was barely allowed on the ice if ever 3v3. You have a much faster big center riding pine on the bench while Kopitar is “rushing” down the ice on life support.


I do think the Kings lack great players but it’s also a f***ing joke when urinalists act like anyone was ever given the chance.

I think Byfield might really break out this year IF they limit that old dogs ice time at some f***ing point.

Nevertheless, in regards to the playoffs, I think the Kings might make it if Jeannot continues this trajectory. Foegele and Jeannot have been producing despite the fact none of us were all too happy to have them, but their different playstyle is definitely showing and producing. It is adding a different dimension to the Kings compared to last year so I am unsure how big of a difference this will be. Also shedding that cancer PLD is a big deal.

I’m not saying the Kings will be better necessarily but the changes in the offseason might end up making the team better. And with Doughty out right now I think it will be better for the Kings since many younger dmen now will be fighting for ice time.


It’s hard to say, this season is much more unpredictable than the previous ones so I think it’s impossible to have a firm opinion. Either they might seriously suck massive balls or they might take up the challenge these younger newer players.

Also dropping the 1-3-1 itself should produce more points in the standings.

I'm as hard on the Kings as anyone and i agree there are a lot of wild cards for the Kings

I do think Kopitar starts to slow down but Byfield starts to ramp up

Hiller has a greater pulse on this team than I think he's been able to show as of yet, I actually really like him right now

The team transformed their identity overnight with some toughness and a new system, they look aggressive and they play aggressive and that makes all the difference

trading PLD is HUGE addition by subtraction

at the very least they will be more fun to watch and the system is finally appropriate for the personnel so we will see

Since when is Vancouver VCR? Have I been living under a rock?

Yeah I think they started doing this at the beginning of last year but it's inconsistent per telecast so hard to get used to it

feel kinda bad for moverare at this point but i guess 26 with a few million bucks in your bank account in southern california isn't all bad

this poor guy has been with the org 8 years and seen so many LHD luminaries come and go while he stays buried

He MUST be happy enough but man

 

[Sol]

Petersen got waived by the Flyers. Honestly Blake is such a dumb ass lol. Petersen and PLD. He should be sending Beckerman flowers every day for keeping him in the organization. What a joke Gm

 

[AbsentMojo]

I'm as hard on the Kings as anyone and i agree there are a lot of wild cards for the Kings

I do think Kopitar starts to slow down but Byfield starts to ramp up

Hiller has a greater pulse on this team than I think he's been able to show as of yet, I actually really like him right now

[..]

Like most of the lineup and system changes too. If you grade on a curve Hiller is doing great as compared to Koala..they went from the stone age to the middle ages. One litmus for me is what he does with the primary OT pairs.. is it going to be 9/11, 24/12 again... telling that QB has not 1 OT goal in his career. I still think he will overuse Kopi - i saw he's pencilled in as top PK guy again. time to retire him from the PK to save his legs and replace with the tenacious QB. If there are injuries and he promotes Lewis up the lineup like he did last season over guys like Thomas Turcotte, and Kaliyev, thats another negative for me. Laf on top line and PP1 - sure try that as an experiment I guess but its sus. To me he still smells like a Koala a bit... he def gets some rope to start the season.. will reserve further judgment til later down the road.

 

[Surf Nutz]

They write
“No one stepped up to take the mantle from Kopitar”

Really?

Tell me when they allowed Byfield or anyone take a shot at Kopitars position when Byfield was barely allowed on the ice if ever 3v3. You have a much faster big center riding pine on the bench while Kopitar is “rushing” down the ice on life support.


I do think the Kings lack great players but it’s also a f***ing joke when urinalists act like anyone was ever given the chance.

I think Byfield might really break out this year IF they limit that old dogs ice time at some f***ing point.

Nevertheless, in regards to the playoffs, I think the Kings might make it if Jeannot continues this trajectory. Foegele and Jeannot have been producing despite the fact none of us were all too happy to have them, but their different playstyle is definitely showing and producing. It is adding a different dimension to the Kings compared to last year so I am unsure how big of a difference this will be. Also shedding that cancer PLD is a big deal.

I’m not saying the Kings will be better necessarily but the changes in the offseason might end up making the team better. And with Doughty out right now I think it will be better for the Kings since many younger dmen now will be fighting for ice time.


It’s hard to say, this season is much more unpredictable than the previous ones so I think it’s impossible to have a firm opinion. Either they might seriously suck massive balls or they might take up the challenge these younger newer players.

Also dropping the 1-3-1 itself should produce more points in the standings.

So you are switching your whipping boy from Byf to a naturally aging but still above par HoF Kopi?

Sheesh, why you gotta always have someone in the dog house?

Meow!

I was happy to see what happens with Foegs and TJ and legends like what's his face had been calling for something like that here repeatedly.

Your views are never really middle of the road, so I would caution you about trying to be any type of campaign manager.

Otherwise your change in slant is welcome growth and shows better processing in your frontal lobe likely less clouded with the anger generated

from the trials and tribulations you have faced starting at an early age.

 

[Sol]

So you are switching your whipping boy from Byf to a naturally aging but still above par HoF Kopi?

Sheesh, why you gotta always have someone in the dog house?

Meow!

I was happy to see what happens with Foegs and TJ and legends like what's his face had been calling for something like that here repeatedly.

Your views are never really middle of the road, so I would caution you about trying to be any type of campaign manager.

Otherwise your change in slant is welcome growth and shows better processing in your frontal lobe likely less clouded with the anger generated

from the trials and tribulations you have faced starting at an early age.

are you sponsored by Jack Daniels?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Like most of the lineup and system changes too. If you grade on a curve Hiller is doing great as compared to Koala..they went from the stone age to the middle ages. One litmus for me is what he does with the primary OT pairs.. is it going to be 9/11, 24/12 again... telling that QB has not 1 OT goal in his career. I still think he will overuse Kopi - i saw he's pencilled in as top PK guy again. time to retire him from the PK to save his legs and replace with the tenacious QB. If there are injuries and he promotes Lewis up the lineup like he did last season over guys like Thomas Turcotte, and Kaliyev, thats another negative for me. Laf on top line and PP1 - sure try that as an experiment I guess but its sus. To me he still smells like a Koala a bit... he def gets some rope to start the season.. will reserve further judgment til later down the road.

Yeah, last season Hiller got the continuity excuse, which I think is fair to a degree.

This season it's all his.

 

[YP44]

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I think it's pretty reasonable given Doughty's absence. Him missing half the year could absolutely be the difference between low-90s and missing the playoffs versus high-90s and making it.

This team would've been better off if we'd made zero trades from the Danault signing onward.

this team could play like the late 90s

 

[DoktorJeep]

I think we once again lose to the Oilers in the first round, but this time it’s a sweep. I’m pinning my hopes on the kids taking over by the final buzzer. What else is there really to root for that is remotely realistic?