Proposal: Another Pick In The Hull: OTT + DET + BUF

Perennial

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I'm not sure any of the teams involved would or should be interested, but at least it's another trade idea to discuss...


Ottawa out: #3, #21
Ottawa in: #4, #8

Detroit out: #4
Detroit in: #3, Okposo

Buffalo out: #8, Okposo
Buffalo in: #21


Sens move down 1 spot, but gain the 8th pick

Red Wings move up 1 spot to ensure they land Byfield or Stutzle

Sabres dump Okposo's contract while still having a pick in the 1st round
 

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I don't think Buffalo is in that dire of straits with their cap that they consider dropping from 8 to 21 just to get rid of Okposo. There surely is another way, or they just suffer it and keep the 8th overall, who should help contribute on a cheap contract.
 

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Buffalo isn't trying to dump Okposo, since he's a useful player.
Overpaid? Sure. But also an important part of one of the best shut down lines in hockey.
 

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I don't think Buffalo is in that dire of straits with their cap that they consider dropping from 8 to 21 just to get rid of Okposo. There surely is another way, or they just suffer it and keep the 8th overall, who should help contribute on a cheap contract.

Reinhart and Montour are both RFA... half of Buffalo's forward group are UFA... and Dahlin only has 1 year left on his ELC before he likely starts making 10+ million...

I just can't see Buffalo taking that next step to becoming a serious contender so long as 6 million in cap space is being wasted on Okposo...
 

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I'm not sure any of the teams involved would or should be interested, but at least it's another trade idea to discuss...


Ottawa out: #3, #21
Ottawa in: #4, #8

Detroit out: #4
Detroit in: #3, Okposo

Buffalo out: #8, Okposo
Buffalo in: #21


Sens move down 1 spot, but gain the 8th pick

Red Wings move up 1 spot to ensure they land Byfield or Stutzle

Sabres dump Okposo's contract while still having a pick in the 1st round
Detroit better figure out who they want at 4th overall. Won’t be one of the top two Cs.
 

Perennial

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Sens need for a #1 centre is too big for us leave the draft without Byfield/Stutzle.

Remember a few years ago when Nolan Patrick and Nico Hischier were considered future #1 centers worth building around?

Heiskanen, Makar, and Pettersson went 3, 4, and 5 that year...

Just sayin'... sometimes it pays to play the field
 
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I'm not sure any of the teams involved would or should be interested, but at least it's another trade idea to discuss...


Ottawa out: #3, #21
Ottawa in: #4, #8

Detroit out: #4
Detroit in: #3, Okposo

Buffalo out: #8, Okposo
Buffalo in: #21


Sens move down 1 spot, but gain the 8th pick

Red Wings move up 1 spot to ensure they land Byfield or Stutzle

Sabres dump Okposo's contract while still having a pick in the 1st round


Okposo isn’t a problem, buffalo isn’t in cap trouble.
 

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If Ottawa had 3/4 and dropped from 4 to 5 sure. Or even 5 to 6 is not a big deal for Ottawa, but the Sens need either Byfield or Stutzle.
 

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I don't think Buffalo is in that dire of straits with their cap that they consider dropping from 8 to 21 just to get rid of Okposo. There surely is another way, or they just suffer it and keep the 8th overall, who should help contribute on a cheap contract.

Buffalo isn't in any cap trouble whatsoever, and Okposo is still a useful player in our lineup (albeit one who's paid about twice as much as he's worth).
 

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Sens don't need to have 3 in the top 10. What sens need to do is make sure they hit with 3 and 5. They have a ton of picks and prospects. They need to make sure they land #3 and get the guy they want.
 

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Remember a few years ago when Nolan Patrick and Nico Hischier were considered future #1 centers worth building around?

Heiskanen, Makar, and Pettersson went 3, 4, and 5 that year...

Just sayin'... sometimes it pays to play the field

Good thing Ottawa has a higher pick that gives them more flexibility in who they draft.
 

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I'm not sure any of the teams involved would or should be interested, but at least it's another trade idea to discuss...


Ottawa out: #3, #21
Ottawa in: #4, #8

Detroit out: #4
Detroit in: #3, Okposo

Buffalo out: #8, Okposo
Buffalo in: #21


Sens move down 1 spot, but gain the 8th pick

Red Wings move up 1 spot to ensure they land Byfield or Stutzle

Sabres dump Okposo's contract while still having a pick in the 1st round
- regardless of players available at the respective spots, value favors sens
- if detroit gets THEIR player at #3, they might be willing to swallow okposo. but three year of 6m cap dump should be more valuable than moving up that one spot. they might pick the same player at #3, as they would at #4. if i was yzerman i would rather get the #8 from buffalo by offering det 2nd and edm 2nd. no need to include the sens.
 

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I'm not so sure Yzerman & co. love this. $18M in cap/3yrs to move up ONE spot that's not to the #1OA. Chris Illitch scrutinizes this heavily I'd bet.

"I don't think Stutzle is that much better than X" is one thing, but "OMG the team can't lose irrelevant cap space!" is something else entirely. If Byfield were somehow still there, I can't imagine the FO incompetence it would take to pass on this.

And really, if ownership is going to start monitoring trades for dollars, the team is sunk until sold and it's time to find someone else to root for.
 

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btw looking like OTT's (NYI's) late first rounder more likely to be ~29 than 21

i don't see Buff moving 8OA except for a young, maybe emerging, star
who can complement Eichel, Skinner, Sandin and help Buff get much better
 

TBF1972

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"I don't think Stutzle is that much better than X" is one thing, but "OMG the team can't lose irrelevant cap space!" is something else entirely. If Byfield were somehow still there, I can't imagine the FO incompetence it would take to pass on this.

And really, if ownership is going to start monitoring trades for dollars, the team is sunk until sold and it's time to find someone else to root for.
the cap space might be irrelevant for the 2020/21. is it also irrelevant for the next two seasons as well? instead of renting out the cap space for 3 years, they could rent out the same cap space for 1 year three times. the return would be much better, than just to move up from 4 to 3 in this years draft.
 

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