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Andrew Brunette DUI video released

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How will those melting down over a not-uncommon golf cart DUI bust going to react when they find out you can also get arrested in most (perhaps every) States for DUI driving a lawn mower, ATV, snowmobile, or tractor? Fling themselves from buildings?

Self-immolation when they discover that boating under the influence is a crime under Federal law as well as illegal in every state? I mean, there's not even streets just, you know, water.


 
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NorthStar4Canes said:
How will those melting down over a not-uncommon golf cart DUI bust going to react when they find out you can also get arrested in most (perhaps every) States for DUI driving a lawn mower, ATV, snowmobile, or tractor? Fling themselves from buildings?

Self-immolation when they discover that boating under the influence is a crime under Federal law as well as illegal in every state? I mean, there's not even streets just, you know, water.
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Yes, people are certainly being dramatic...
 
Gliff said:
Cmon man it’s 2023. Get with the times.
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:laugh: What does that even mean? Any cop is going to bark an order at an inebriated, ID-less grown man who's suddenly gone non-compliant and begins resisting. They bark it to cut through whatever brain-fog creature is in the dope's head telling them they can control the situation.

And the answers and comments by the cop some here are labelling "passive-aggressive" or "sarcastic" are actually de-escalating and non-confrontational in the same way those comments and tone would be considered if dealing with a 4 year old, because at that point it's obvious to the cop that's the level of brain function he's dealing with in Brunette, that of a 4 year old.

Don't think so? The very first thing Brunette tried to do was deny to the cop he was driving, that his wife was. This, while the cop is pulled up right behind his golf cart...a vehicle with literally the clearest view of the seats in existence... with his wife still sitting on the passenger side.:laugh: That's the sort of lie a 4 year old would think clever and attempt when denying raiding the cookie jar with black Oreo crumbs on their face and goo stuck in their teeth.

Then Brunette mumbles something about not having his licence, but his wife did as if one can drive-by-proxy. By this point, anyone knows they're dealing with someone who's brain is so fogged you need to deal with him like a very young, reluctant child in order to coax info out of him while keeping in mind he could throw a tantrum/snap. A cop is not going to deal or talk to him like any of us would deal with our drunk buddy.

It's long been "the times", decades, that talking your way out of a DUI or getting a ride home instead is next to impossible. So what times are you referring to?
 
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NorthStar4Canes said:
:laugh: What does that even mean? Any cop is going to bark an order at an inebriated, ID-less grown man who's suddenly gone non-compliant and begins resisting. They bark it to cut through whatever brain-fog creature is in the dope's head telling them they can control the situation.

And the answers and comments by the cop some here are labelling "passive-aggressive" or "sarcastic" are actually de-escalating and non-confrontational in the same way those comments and tone would be considered if dealing with a 4 year old, because at that point it's obvious to the cop that's the level of brain function he's dealing with in Brunette, that of a 4 year old.

Don't think so? The very first thing Brunette tried to do was deny to the cop he was driving, that his wife was. This, while the cop is pulled up behind a golf cart with a clear view of the seats and his wife still sitting on the passenger side. That's the sort of lie a 4 year old would think clever and attempt denying raiding the cookie jar with black Oreo crumbs on their face and goo stuck in their teeth.

Then Brunette mumbles something about not having his licence, but his wife did as if one can drive-by-proxy. By this point, anyone knows they're dealing with someone who's brain is so fogged you need to deal with him like a very young, reluctant child in order to coax info out of him while keeping in mind he could throw a tantrum/snap. A cop is not going to deal or talk to him like any of us would deal with our drunk buddy.

It's long been "the times", decades, that talking your way out of a DUI or getting a ride home instead is next to impossible. So what times are you referring to?
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Not a big fan of the later part of the arrest where the police officer swears and threatens Brunette (let's be fair, the guy looked drunk but not agressive), but I have no problem him talking that "way" when the guy is clearly drunk and keeps lying... Not the perfect intervention, but not the end of the world.

I'd rather the cop being arrogant than full blown agressive and confrontational.
 
DJB said:
Until you work as an officer you should probably shut your mouth
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I feel the same for people who support the cops (otherwise people come off as wannabe's and fanboys)...I've been taught by police officers. Even they aren't afraid to tell you how stupid a lot of cops are or can be and mine (Canadian) who goes to lots of international law enforcement conferences quipped at that it is "a gong show" in the US comparatively.

This interaction though seems fairly benign. If he weren't a country club guy it probably would have gone a little worse when he tried to bolt.

Also have a feeling those mocking his voice, don't sound all that different.
 
Love said:
I think the cop and brunette both look bad here. The cop because he’s absolutely loving every minute of it. He’s practically giggling that he gets to catch someone at their lowest point and use his authority over them. At the same time it’s obviously inexcusable behaviour by brunette and the “you know I coach the Florida panthers” line at the end made me want to puke.
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I think he’s supposed to use his authority, it’s how they control the situation. He asserted himself and I have no issue with that.

The only bad look here is the DUI. The whole ‘do you know who I am thing was pathetic’. He started off by being untruthful about driving and it went downhill from there. It’s hardly surprising he was laughing as his attempts to get out of it were tragic. Sometimes it’s impossible to suppress laugher.
 
NorthStar4Canes said:
:laugh: What does that even mean? Any cop is going to bark an order at an inebriated, ID-less grown man who's suddenly gone non-compliant and begins resisting. They bark it to cut through whatever brain-fog creature is in the dope's head telling them they can control the situation.

And the answers and comments by the cop some here are labelling "passive-aggressive" or "sarcastic" are actually de-escalating and non-confrontational in the same way those comments and tone would be considered if dealing with a 4 year old, because at that point it's obvious to the cop that's the level of brain function he's dealing with in Brunette, that of a 4 year old.

Don't think so? The very first thing Brunette tried to do was deny to the cop he was driving, that his wife was. This, while the cop is pulled up right behind his golf cart...a vehicle with literally the clearest view of the seats in existence... with his wife still sitting on the passenger side.:laugh: That's the sort of lie a 4 year old would think clever and attempt when denying raiding the cookie jar with black Oreo crumbs on their face and goo stuck in their teeth.

Then Brunette mumbles something about not having his licence, but his wife did as if one can drive-by-proxy. By this point, anyone knows they're dealing with someone who's brain is so fogged you need to deal with him like a very young, reluctant child in order to coax info out of him while keeping in mind he could throw a tantrum/snap. A cop is not going to deal or talk to him like any of us would deal with our drunk buddy.

It's long been "the times", decades, that talking your way out of a DUI or getting a ride home instead is next to impossible. So what times are you referring to?
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I was being sarcastic.
 
WhiskeyYerTheDevils said:
The whole encounter, and his attitude throughout. That was just one example.
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You mean he had a touch of contempt for the pathetic attempt to get out of a DUI. Probably, but it doesn’t make him unprofessional. Funny enough I have a lot of contempt for drunk drivers.
 
Statto said:
You mean he had a touch of contempt for the pathetic attempt to get out of a DUI. Probably, but it doesn’t make him unprofessional. Funny enough I have a lot of contempt for drunk drivers.
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The touch of contempt is 100% unprofessional. His job is to carry out the law not cast moral judgement, or shame or scold those that break the law. That's kind of the definition of being professional at your work.

Doesn't make him a bad cop.
 
Breakfast of Champs said:
Bad move by Brunette, definitely not allowed and you can/will be punished if caught.

However, I agree with the posts about the general attitude from the cop. "oh that's odd" and "you slowed down real good" etc, those comments don't do anything in that situation other than make you look like a prick who gets off on authority.

Not malpractice or a total lack of professionalism, but enough to show what kind of cop he is IMO
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I guess he could have said ‘you’re full of it’. Perhaps he wasn’t being directly aggressive to keep the situation non confrontational which he mostly did. I mean, was he supposed to agree. I’m not sure what people expect. He was obviously drunk, he needed dealing with, the situation needed to be kept in control. Remember he has no idea if the guy he just pulled over is armed, violent etc.

I see a lot of posts from people that just don’t like cops, which I understand from some of the track records. However the situation stayed largely calm and nobody got hurt, so job done.
 
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I guess he could have said ‘you’re full of it’. Perhaps he wasn’t being directly aggressive to keep the situation non confrontational which he mostly did. I mean, was he supposed to agree. I’m not sure what people expect. He was obviously drunk, he needed dealing with, the situation needed to be kept in control. Remember he has no idea if the guy he just pulled over is armed, violent etc.

I see a lot of posts from people that just don’t like cops, which I understand from some of the track records. However the situation stayed largely calm and nobody got hurt, so job done.
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I guess I'm just used to watching code blue cam, which is a bit of a propaganda machine for law enforcement, but it shows officers acting extremely patient and professional with difficult people.

For the record, I generally side with cops and understand how difficult their jobs can be.
 
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