Andrew Brunette DUI video released

[Brookbank]

He's an asshole the moment he celebrates a rolling stop in a golf cart as an excuse to ruin someone's day

Ruin someone's day ? Ruin someone's reputation and do permanent damage to someone's career. Over a couple drinks, in a golf cart less than 2 blocks from home in a gated community.

 

[tfwnogf]

very entertaining video all around

 

[Toby91ca]

Ruin someone's day ? Ruin someone's reputation and do permanent damage to someone's career. Over a couple drinks, in a golf cart less than 2 blocks from home in a gated community.

You should probably check your facts

 

[Brookbank]

It's not like he chose to ignore a shooting and take this on instead. All laws are policed....I suspect if a more urgent issue arose in their area, they probably would have gone there. I didn't realize the back story until now....but even without that, I have no problem pulling someone over for rolling a stop....I wish there was cop parked near my house pulling people over. I have a stop sign about 20 feet past my driveway (3-way stop), if I look out the window and watch 10 cars go by (assuming no other cars are around)...4-5 might slow down to 40km/hr and blow through (speed limit is 40km hr.....)....2-3 will roll the stop, which isn't a huge deal and maybe 1 will actually stop.

How many accidents have you seen at this stop sign by your house?

This looks like a case of not in my neighborhood. Everyone does rolling stops sometimes

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Nothing there intimates the opposite. He suspected a guy of DUI then followed him for SEVENTEEN minutes waiting for him to roll a stop sign? Come on lol.

And he rolled through the stop sign at like 1 mph. They were definitely looking for a reason to pull him over.

 

[Brookbank]

The funny part is anyone actually believing that cops back then called kids "Sir".

I'll be honest. Us millennials caught the tail end of this. It happened to friends in the early 2000's. "Pour that sh** out and go home!" But ppl also lost their license for a year+ too.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I expect them to be professionals and avoid escalating situations. There are plenty of cops who would have handled that situation much better.

People in service jobs deal with BS all the time, but if they decide to get snarky and escalate situations, they get fired. Why are police held to such a different standard?

He didn’t escalate the situation. Brunette did. It was a routine traffic stop, and they were having him perform a sobriety test when Brunette refused to participate and began to walk away from the officers. At that point, he’s considered a fleeing felon and the officers upped the force matrix from verbal communication to physically restraining him in order to perform their duties.

Again, you can try and paint the officer in a bad light all you like, but he did nothing wrong in this instance (at least, based on that video).

 

[Jeune Poulet]

I understand that's how it works, my point is that his reason for stopping him in the first place was dumb af. If he had stopped a car for speeding on a residential street or for ignoring a stop sign on a busy intersection or some other truly dangerous thing, ok. But a slow golf cart doing rolling stop on an empty road?

But how long did he follow him? What other signs did the police officer see? Just because the officer is not saying on camera what else he saw doesn't mean Brunette's driving didn't ring warning bells.

Do we really need the police spending time on that? Of course once he did, and found out he was impaired, he had no choice but to arrest.

Not "impaired". Completely shitfaced.

I know some people consider that .08 is too strict. But you have to be way, way over that limit to look, act and slur like Brunette in this video.

The events that followed proved the officer was right to stop him in the first place. It's asinine to blame the officers for taking action and being proven right.

If someone can barely formulate a coherent sentence and can't be bothered to carry their wallet and license like a grown adult, they should be nowehere near a steering wheel.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

He didn’t escalate the situation. Brunette did. It was a routine traffic stop, and they were having him perform a sobriety test when Brunette refused to participate and began to walk away from the officers. At that point, he’s considered a fleeing felon and the officers upped the force matrix from verbal communication to physically restraining him in order to perform their duties.

Again, you can try and paint the officer in a bad light all you like, but he did nothing wrong in this instance (at least, based on that video).

How do these two things co-exist for you?

This entire mentality is how everyone absolves cops for escalating police encounters into the physical and potentially officer-involved shootings. These guys don’t have the word “deescalate” in their vocabulary. Brunette was walking to the cart and gave zero indication of physically resisting anyone. There were a million ways the officer could have intervened without escalating both the verbal rhetoric and physical intervention. Yeah, that’s how these guys are trained, and that’s exactly the problem.

 

[Brookbank]

He didn’t escalate the situation. Brunette did. It was a routine traffic stop, and they were having him perform a sobriety test when Brunette refused to participate and began to walk away from the officers. At that point, he’s considered a fleeing felon and the officers upped the force matrix from verbal communication to physically restraining him in order to perform their duties.

Again, you can try and paint the officer in a bad light all you like, but he did nothing wrong in this instance (at least, based on that video).

Do you know the state laws about that? "Bruno" was polite the whole time. He just thought, wait... do i have to do this walk test? He wanted to phone and check with his lawyer first. The cops have all night. There's no hurry. If the lawyer said he had to do it , he would have done it.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

He didn’t escalate the situation. Brunette did. It was a routine traffic stop, and they were having him perform a sobriety test when Brunette refused to participate and began to walk away from the officers. At that point, he’s considered a fleeing felon and the officers upped the force matrix from verbal communication to physically restraining him in order to perform their duties.

Again, you can try and paint the officer in a bad light all you like, but he did nothing wrong in this instance (at least, based on that video).

Brunette said he didn't have his wallet and the officer responds condescendingly "oooh that's odd".

His whole tone throughout was incredibly snarky.

Also, what made Brunette a "fleeing felon"? DUI is not a felony in FLA, and he was walking to his cart to call his lawyer.

I hope you're not a cop.

 

[bl02]

You should probably check your facts

People seem to neglecting them or glossing over them over and over.

 

[Steddy33]

Burnette is an idiot for driving drunk. And deserves what he gets. That said, driving a golf cart cart drunk is not the same thing as driving a full size vehicle drunk. The chances of killing someone else while driving a golf cart drunk are slim. Maybe his wife, but that's also her own fault for riding with him while knowingly drunk.

COPS- I have been pulled over numerous times for traffic offenses late at night. (I.E. -license plate lights that the cop said weren't working but when I got home miraculously were) Every single time it was obvious the cop was looking to hand out a DWI. I don't have a DWI because in every single instance I was sober. Point is cops just make up bullshit to pull people over all the time. It is pure scumbaggery in the name of some righteous bullshit of saving lives. It's glorified tax collection by guys with guns. Cops aren't always bad guys. But this is an example of cops doing what cops do. It's definitely not "protect and serve"

 

[bl02]

Brunette said he didn't have his wallet and the officer responds condescendingly "oooh that's odd".

His whole tone throughout was incredibly snarky.

Also, what made Brunette a "fleeing felon"? DUI is not a felony in FLA, and he was walking to his cart to call his lawyer.

I hope you're not a cop.

and every cop is supposed to believe exactly what he says? How do you know he doesn't have a weapon in his cart? At that point why is it so hard to follow directions? Don't keep walking to your vehicle/Cart when you're told not to. Probably him being shitfaced is the reason but doesn't excuse it.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

and every cop is supposed to believe exactly what he says? How do you know he doesn't have a weapon in his cart? At that point why is it so hard to follow directions? Don't keep walking to your vehicle/Cart when you're told not to. Probably him being shitfaced is the reason but doesn't excuse it.

So you think he was a fleeing felon?

 

[bl02]

So you think he was a fleeing felon?

I have no idea. I was responding to "he was walking to his cart to call his lawyer" and I suppose you think the cop should believe that he didn't have a weapon in his vehicle?

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Burnette is an idiot for driving drunk. And deserves what he gets. That said, driving a golf cart cart drunk is not the same thing as driving a full size vehicle drunk.

That's true, but there are also various degrees of intoxication and impairment. I often see people refusing to drive and they are nowhere near as inebriated as Brunette.

The chances of killing someone else while driving a golf cart drunk are slim. Maybe his wife, but that's also her own fault for riding with him while knowingly drunk.

I disagree but let's say you are right and follow the rest of your reasonment:

this is an example of cops doing what cops do. It's definitely not "protect and serve"

... you think "protect and serve" is letting people run the risk of killing themselves or their passengers? That's the kind of policing you are wanting in your community?

This makes no sense at all.

Again, this cop was right. He pulled over a severely intoxicated guy who had no ID on him. They gave him the chance to explain himself, and were met with a barrage of insulting lies and refusal to cooperate. They did what was needed and, as you admitted yourself, at least prevented Brunette from being a danger to himself and his passenger.

Your negative experiences with police officers change nothing about this particular incident, BTW.

 

[NorthStar4Canes]

Brunette said he didn't have his wallet and the officer responds condescendingly "oooh that's odd".

It seems lost on you that the cop already knows he's talking to a guy so drunk he's already tried to lie to his face about who was driving the cart (even tho he has been in plain view), saying his wife was, then stumbled over trying to invent some reason he was driving using her licence (as if that's a thing) until, in desperation, abruptly played the "I live right there" card.

All the above happened before the "ooooh that's odd" comment.

Of course his tone would seem condescending if the person being addressed were sober, but Brunette was clearly, obviously, not. On the contrary, Brunette was ineptly trying to lie like a child, was behaving like a child, and reaching for a way out like a child with no self-awareness re the situation he was in. The cop is de-escalating confrontation by talking to him on Brunette's childlike state of mind-level while he's gathering information.

While the tone may annoy you, it worked. The situation never escalated until the penny dropped when Brunette was about to try the roadside sobriety test and tried walking away, but that had nothing to do with anyone's tone up to that point.

Again, at the very start Brunette was so out of it he actually tried to deny he was driving an open-air golf cart while in full view of the cop. The same cop he'd interacted with before driving away from the restaurant. This is a pretty sure sign that his brain was in 4 year-old mode. When you were 4 years old your parents probably spoke to you the same way but you never noticed. Nobody does.

 

[12ozPapa]

Not a cop’s job to be nice…

Brunette was a dipshit and treated as such.

 

[Steddy33]

... you think "protect and serve" is letting people run the risk of killing themselves or their passengers? That's the kind of policing you are wanting in your community?

These cops aren't trying to "protect and serve" by pulling people over for rolling a stop sign. We don't have enough context to know how poorly he was actually driving. Like I said he deserves what he gets. Driving around trashed on the streets is and should be illegal. But if you think these cops are try to protect the community by following around golf carts and waiting for an excuse to pull them over we are going to have to disagree. In this example they did some good. But that doesn't excuse following people around and wait for them to mess up. Like I said we don't have the full context just the police narrative.

And yeah, my life experience does matter. Because that is how "policing" works in general. Try to entrap people is the 100% norm for modern policing

 

[LTIR Trickery]

It's a golf cart in a gated suburb.

What's next, no beers on the golf course?

Listen bro you're not necessarily wrong but as someone who has lived in Florida his entire life and seen some shit on golf carts, i'm not surprised. People are f***ing psycho with them, and more often than not they're thrilled to get shithoused and drive them around. Combine that with also-drunk clowns with gigantic trucks and its a recipe for disaster. I kinda understand the crackdown.

I'll also say its an affluent, gated suburb. The cops aren't usually f***ing around in there, and if they are, it is extremely likely because they had multiple calls/complaints about people being stupid on the roads.

 

[SimpleJack]

I think the cop and brunette both look bad here. The cop because he’s absolutely loving every minute of it. He’s practically giggling that he gets to catch someone at their lowest point and use his authority over them. At the same time it’s obviously inexcusable behaviour by brunette and the “you know I coach the Florida panthers” line at the end made me want to puke.

Dude trust me I hate cops….but I don’t see any cops basking in their authority here. The suspect straight up tried to walk away from a DUI field sobriety test and was clearly drunk/being a fool. Brunette comes off like the moron here. And that cringe worthy “You know I coach the Panthers…right?” line at the end. Man that was brutal.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

So you think he was a fleeing felon?

You are right. I was mistaken. While resisting arrest is a felony in Florida, it’s only a felony if violence is involved or if the person is fleeing in a vehicle.

Nonetheless, even resisting arrest ups the force matrix required to control the situation.

You have a suspect that is clearly inebriated, refusing to follow orders, and is heading to his vehicle. Suspect claims to be going for his cellphone (despite claiming earlier that he had “nothing on him”). At that point, it could easily be argued that physical force was necessary to keep everyone involved at the scene (police, the passenger and the suspect himself) safe.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

You are right. I was mistaken. While resisting arrest is a felony in Florida, it’s only a felony if violence is involved or if the person is fleeing in a vehicle.

Nonetheless, even resisting arrest ups the force matrix required to control the situation.

You have a suspect that is clearly inebriated, refusing to follow orders, and is heading to his vehicle. Suspect claims to be going for his cellphone (despite claiming earlier that he had “nothing on him”). At that point, it could easily be argued that physical force was necessary to keep everyone involved at the scene (police, the passenger and the suspect himself) safe.

I’m sorry, but this is straight up delusional copaganda. This kind of absurdity is: A) exactly why this country doesn’t trust its police force, and B) why cops feel empowered to escalate encounters to over the top physical violence with complete impunity as long as they and their buddies write “for safety reasons” in the report.

Only this example is even more looney tunes, because you just watched the same video we did and *still* came to the conclusion that somehow physical violence would be justified. It’s a wonder that anywhere else in the world manages to safely police it’s populace to a point this country could even dream of with that kind of sensitivity.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

It seems lost on you that the cop already knows he's talking to a guy so drunk he's already tried to lie to his face about who was driving the cart (even tho he has been in plain view), saying his wife was, then stumbled over trying to invent some reason he was driving using her licence (as if that's a thing) until, in desperation, abruptly played the "I live right there" card.

Of course his tone would seem condescending if the person being addressed were sober, but Brunette was clearly, obviously, not. On the contrary, Brunette was ineptly trying to lie like a child, was behaving like a child, and reaching for a way out like a child with no self-awareness re the situation he was in. The cop is de-escalating confrontation by talking to him on Brunette's childlike state of mind-level while he's gathering information.

While the tone may annoy you, it worked. The situation never escalated until the penny dropped when Brunette was about to try the roadside sobriety test and tried walking away, but that had nothing to do with anyone's tone up to that point.

Again, at the very start Brunette was so out of it he actually tried to deny he was driving an open-air golf cart while in full view of the cop. The same cop he'd interacted with before driving away from the restaurant. This is a pretty sure sign that his brain was in 4 year-old mode. When you were 4 years old your parents probably spoke to you the same way but you never noticed. Nobody does.

Yeah I'm sure you've never had a drink before if you think being drunk means you don't pick up on that sort of tone. It was unnecessary and unprofessional.

Like I said earlier, there are plenty of people in the service industry that deal terrible customers who are often way more disrespectful than Brunette and they are expected to do so while treating the customer with respect.

For some reason we grant police significantly more authority but hold them to lower standards of behavior.