Waived: Andreas Athanasiou

[belfour30]

They are. He's getting every penny to play hockey.

In baseball if a player is released they get paid anyway. I thought it worked the same in hockey.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

In baseball if a player is released they get paid anyway. I thought it worked the same in hockey.

You can't just release somebody with a NHL contract. You can buy them out during the off-season window or both parties can agree to mutual termination but then the contract is ripped up and the player doesn't get any more money.

You can terminate a contract if you have cause but being bad isn't cause.

 

[TLEH]

One way vs Two way just determines their pay structure in the minors. Regardless, he either reports to Rockford if they send him there, or he agrees to termination like DHF said and tries to find an NHL deal at a different number.

 

[belfour30]

You can't just release somebody with a NHL contract. You can buy them out during the off-season window or both parties can agree to mutual termination but then the contract is ripped up and the player doesn't get any more money.

You can terminate a contract if you have cause but being bad isn't cause.

It's crazy that I have been following the league since the mid-90s and had no idea.

One way vs Two way just determines their pay structure in the minors. Regardless, he either reports to Rockford if they send him there, or he agrees to termination like DHF said and tries to find an NHL deal at a different number.

The money is too good for him not to go to Rockford then.

 

[TLEH]

The money is too good for him not to go to Rockford then.

Most likely yes, but never underestimate someones pride and ego.

 

[Blackhawks]

We should all be so lucky to have bosses let us light $8.5 million on fire.

Oh ya so lucky, that money should be spent on quality on the ice beside bedard to help him in his most important years of development, this management is ruining his development with this bs garbage around him, nvm we should feel lucky, positive and fortunate to have a clueless owner that throws 9 mill in the garbage.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Oh ya so lucky, that money should be spent on quality in the ice beside beard to help him in his most important years of his development, this team is ruining his development with this bs garbage around him, nvm we should feel lucky, positive and fortunate to have a clueless owner that throws 9 mill in the garbage.

Watch out. I've been saying this and now I'm considered a Wings fan......

 

[clydesdale line]

He cleared.

Good for the Icehogs, I guess.

Shows what the rest of the league thinks of him.

 

[WarriorofTime]

In baseball if a player is released they get paid anyway. I thought it worked the same in hockey.

If the Hawks say "Athanasiou, GTFOH, we don't want you anymore" he gets paid regardless and there's cap ramifications.

If Athanasiou says "please release me so I can sign somewhere else" and they mutually agree to terminate, then he does not get paid.

If the Hawks say "Athanasiou, you smuggled drugs over from Canada, we're terminating you for breach of contract" then potentially he is not paid, but it will get dealt with via the NHLPA and Grievance process.

 

[ello]

Wow he hasn't played in the AHL since he broke into the NHL like 9 years ago. Im honestly surprised

 

[WarriorofTime]

Wow he hasn't played in the AHL since he broke into the NHL like 9 years ago. Im honestly surprised

Once players get beyond Waiver Exempt years, they don't usually go to the AHL unless they're being jettisoned out of the League.

 

[belfour30]

If the Hawks say "Athanasiou, GTFOH, we don't want you anymore" he gets paid regardless and there's cap ramifications.

This is what I am expecting to happen.

 

[WarriorofTime]

This is what I am expecting to happen.

They’ll just have him in the minors which I guess is similar

 

[Wally1112pac]

Raw footage of AA's last practice with the 'Hawks.

 

[MHO]

Raw footage of AA's last practice with the 'Hawks.

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Raw footage of AA's first practice with the Icehogs.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I'm genuinely confused by how many people are talking about AA like all he can do is skate. He's got ++ hands and a + shot. He's just hockey brain dead.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

The man is an island unto himself. He won't make anyone better. He will score a bunch of points by himself in the AHL because he's so talented. You don't pot thirty in the NHL playing his style unless you're extremely gifted.

Pair him with Slaggert and Hayes, let them chip pucks in front of AA and AA will make AHL defenseman look like AHL defenseman. Put him on the half wall on the PP with time and space? Brett Seney will look Teuvo in comparison.

 

[statswatcher]

The man is an island unto himself. He won't make anyone better. He will score a bunch of points by himself in the AHL because he's so talented. You don't pot thirty in the NHL playing his style unless you're extremely gifted.

Pair him with Slaggert and Hayes, let them chip pucks in front of AA and AA will make AHL defenseman look like AHL defenseman. Put him on the half wall on the PP with time and space? Brett Seney will look Teuvo in comparison.

i think AA's game lends itself to being streaky at the nhl level. he has all the physical ability to put himself in high danger scoring positions off the rush, but he lacks the finish and playmaking ability to consistently make the most of his opportunities. the result is a consistently inconsistent and incredibly frustrating player. it's very easy to see how people can throw out the good with the bad.

 

[TLEH]

I don't think AA really lacks anything talent wise. He can fly, great hands, good shot. He just doesn't know when to do any of them.

 

[ploppsdman]

AA is completely useless as a team guy. Skate fast and shoot. That’s it. That’s all he is. I cannot think of a similar player.

Play him with 4 D and maybe you have something?

Otherwise, keep waiving him for my own personal enjoyment but he should NEVER play with the hawks again.

 

[WarriorofTime]

AA is completely useless as a team guy. Skate fast and shoot. That’s it. That’s all he is. I cannot think of a similar player.

Mason Raymond

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Mason Raymond

Raymond was a defensively sound middle six winger with nowhere near AA's raw talent.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Raymond was a defensively sound middle six winger with nowhere near AA's raw talent.

Can’t remember him defensively tbh I just felt like when they played the hawks all I remember is him being skate fast, shoot at an off angle every time he was out there.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Can’t remember him defensively tbh I just felt like when they played the hawks all I remember is him being skate fast, shoot at an off angle every time he was out there.

AA doesn't even do that. That's my point. There's been plenty of fast north south guys that could shoot. AA is so much more talented than them all. There's no good comp because the man is a unicorn.

 

[WarriorofTime]

AA doesn't even do that. That's my point. There's been plenty of fast north south guys that could shoot. AA is so much more talented than them all. There's no good comp because the man is a unicorn.

Not really sure I’m following based on chain to date. What do you mean he doesn’t even do that. I’d say he’s a really fast skater with good skill that doesn’t work linemates, cycle or system very well. Hence why he’s hung around league to this point with spurts of good production but never managed to secure any sort of longterm contract value. If he could be good defensively, it would have done immense value for his career.