Confirmed with Link: Andlauer reaches deal for Ottawa Senators ownership

[Senovision]

"Like the Tkachuks, they want to win": Elliotte Friedman floats possibility of Brady Tkachuk mirroring brother Matthew's exit from Calgary Flames amid NY Rangers rumors

NHL insider Elliotte Friedman addressed Brady Tkachuk trade rumors on the latest episode of the 32 Thoughts podcast with co-host Kyle Bukauskas.

www.sportskeeda.com

Andlauer gets ticked off and then the little media pukes back each other and keep stoking the fires of Tkachuk trade rumours.
The media nowadays more than ever like to make up fake news and keep sending it out there.

 

[Icelevel]

"Like the Tkachuks, they want to win": Elliotte Friedman floats possibility of Brady Tkachuk mirroring brother Matthew's exit from Calgary Flames amid NY Rangers rumors

NHL insider Elliotte Friedman addressed Brady Tkachuk trade rumors on the latest episode of the 32 Thoughts podcast with co-host Kyle Bukauskas.

www.sportskeeda.com

Andlauer gets ticked off and then the little media pukes back each other and keep stoking the fires of Tkachuk trade rumours.
The media nowadays more than ever like to make up fake news and keep sending it out there.

Can’t argue with this though. No matter what kind of conversations have happened or not happened.

“Like the Tkachuks, they want to win. They're competitive as any family out there. They can say all they want about how confident they are or how good their relationship is, but if the team doesn't start making the playoffs, a Tkachuk is not going to want to be there."

 

[jbeck5]

Nah, Andlaur is a smart guy. He knows Ottawa is a small market and he needs to be present and vocal so the league doesn't walk all over the team. Big market destination teams like the Rangers will try to use their advantages where they can (one of the few franchises that can get away with treating their captain like how they treated Trouba). Andlaur has to show that while Ottawa is small, they're not going to be pushed around.

Being good is an easy way out of the small market issue you talk about.

I don't see teams like Tampa or Pittsburgh getting pushed around...they didn't have big fanbase until they became winners.

Just win, and you lose that small market reputation. If you win, you're one of the big dogs regardless of how many hockey fans in the city.

 

[jbeck5]

My big concern with Brady going forward is two-fold:

1. He plays hard, physical hockey and, although he is very strong and durable, guys like that tend to fall off hard when they get to 30. There's almost no examples of power forwards who age gracefully past 30 and his next deal will start when he's 29.
2. His NMC kicks in on July 1st and that's a very difficult hurdle if we decide to shake things up. It gives him all the power and as much as fans love Brady, our true allegiance should be to the logo on the jersey. This team needs to have as much leeway to improve itself as possible and the guy who could command a huge haul in a trade can't be dictating where he can and can't go. It might be that we simply can't allow ourselves to be handcuffed by one of the most valuable trade assets we have. Can you imagine what a disaster it would be if we get past July 1st and he all of a sudden demands a trade to 1 or 2 teams? It could literally set us back years. We need to have all the power in any potential trade negotiations involving him.

It honestly sucks that we're here but it could be one of those trades that changes the makeup of the team for the better. We could get a high-quality forward and defenseman plus some draft capital and/or quality prospect(s).

Though I generally agree with you, there are countless examples of big "power forward" types being good in their 30s.

Getzlaf put up 61 points in 56 games at age 32.
Perry put up 34 goals at age 30.
Benn put up 78 points at age 33.
Tom Wilson is on pace for 33 goals at age 30.
Ovechkin....


Obviously they won't keep it up forever, but Brady could be a good second line 20+ goal scorer from age 30-35.

 

[Golden_Jet]

My big concern with Brady going forward is two-fold:

1. He plays hard, physical hockey and, although he is very strong and durable, guys like that tend to fall off hard when they get to 30. There's almost no examples of power forwards who age gracefully past 30 and his next deal will start when he's 29.
2. His NMC kicks in on July 1st and that's a very difficult hurdle if we decide to shake things up. It gives him all the power and as much as fans love Brady, our true allegiance should be to the logo on the jersey. This team needs to have as much leeway to improve itself as possible and the guy who could command a huge haul in a trade can't be dictating where he can and can't go. It might be that we simply can't allow ourselves to be handcuffed by one of the most valuable trade assets we have. Can you imagine what a disaster it would be if we get past July 1st and he all of a sudden demands a trade to 1 or 2 teams? It could literally set us back years. We need to have all the power in any potential trade negotiations involving him.

It honestly sucks that we're here but it could be one of those trades that changes the makeup of the team for the better. We could get a high-quality forward and defenseman plus some draft capital and/or quality prospect(s).

Jamie Benn has done well as a PF, OV as well, Jerome Iginla aged well, Wilson doing OK, along with as others
There just aren’t a lot of true PF’s anymore.

I’m sure you have some examples that didn’t age well as well, but there is no pattern to that.

 

[Senovision]

Can’t argue with this though. No matter what kind of conversations have happened or not happened.

“Like the Tkachuks, they want to win. They're competitive as any family out there. They can say all they want about how confident they are or how good their relationship is, but if the team doesn't start making the playoffs, a Tkachuk is not going to want to be there."

Another media myth perpetuated by the media that we buy into is this idea that the Tkachuks and only the Tkachuk family wants to win. This is the media putting out this idea that the Tkachuks are hockey royalty.Keith Tkachuk never won a cup. He played many seasons in Winnipeg and Phoenix. Out of a combined 32 years in the league the Tkachuk family has won only one Stanley Cup. Keith was pretty loyal. He stayed with Winnipeg through the move to Phoenix for 10 years. Then went to St.Louis for 8 seasons. He didn't end up chasing a Stanley Cup winning team.
All players and their families in the NHL want their families to win there's no difference Stutzle and his family want to win. Batherson and his family want to win. Sanderson and his family want to win. You could keep the list going.
In other words if we don't start winning Stutzle, Sanderson etc...will want to be traded as well because we can all agree that they too are competitive players and want to win and if they don't start winning they will be gone too.

 

[Tuna99]

Another media myth perpetuated by the media that we buy into is this idea that the Tkachuks and only the Tkachuk family wants to win. This is the media putting out this idea that the Tkachuks are hockey royalty.Keith Tkachuk never won a cup. He played many seasons in Winnipeg and Phoenix. Out of a combined 32 years in the league the Tkachuk family has won only one Stanley Cup. Keith was pretty loyal. He stayed with Winnipeg through the move to Phoenix for 10 years. Then went to St.Louis for 8 seasons. He didn't end up chasing a Stanley Cup winning team.
All players and their families in the NHL want their families to win there's no difference Stutzle and his family want to win. Batherson and his family want to win. Sanderson and his family want to win. You could keep the list going.
In other words if we don't start winning Stutzle, Sanderson etc...will want to be traded as well because we can all agree that they too are competitive players and want to win and if they don't start winning they will be gone too.

I would say Keith Takchuk main objective in his career was maximizing money and his roll on the team in an open market - and not being part of a winner.

Keith never was talked about as having a burning desire to win, ever. He played hard, but he was just an NHL player making his cash and there was never an aura of competition around him you saw in his peers like Pronger or Roenick. He was more in the Pierre Turgeon camp

Brady and Matthew seem to be obsessed with changing that family history. they’ll make crazy money like their Dad but what will set their careers apart is that CUP and maybe a HOF call for the boys (or all of them as a group together one year where I think this thing is HOF is headed)