Proposal: Andersson to Buffalo

[Ledge And Dairy]

I mean I like the guy but he was the worst Dman for +- and overall on the flames. I know that's not a be all end all on evaluating a player but it's certainly a stat that can't be ignored, given anyone he played with was better away from him.
He was great last year but wasn't great this year.
Byram for him sounds more realistic.

If you scroll up I've explained why his +/- does not match his play at all in 2 different ways. A large chunk has to do with him being on the ice for a bunch of OT goals, empty net goals, and goals against on the power play. As for 5v5, his actual goals for per 60 was bottom 10 in the league whereas his analytics ranked him top 50. He tied his career high in goals, it's his assists that dropped off, meaning his teammates couldn't score. Scoring was a problem all year in Calgary. It's the same reason why Huberdeau had the same amount of primary points as guys like Eichel and Keller, yet finished with 30 less points.

 

[Satanphonehome]

I mean, the Flames got Bahl + first for Markstrom. They got Brustewicz + first + for Lindholm. Nelson just got a first + Ritchie +

I don’t see why Andersson returns any less than those guys.

I think this is a lot closer to where I'd peg an unsigned Andersson's return: a mid- to late first and a similar prospect.

Nowhere in these packages do I see a top 10 pick, a 23-year-old defenceman who was +11 playing 1st-pairing minutes on a bad team and 15th in ES scoring among NHL blueliners, or a 23-year-old winger who put up nearly 70 points in his 3rd year.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Perhaps because Calgary's overall defensive quality has eroded, Rasmus Andersson just had a season where his analytical value is closer to zero. Not a good season. And he's one year from UFA.

Given that, the asks are kind of over the top. There's surprisingly not many U24 players who have been more productive than JJ Peterka.

And Ostlund and Kulich are high end prospects. You'd think Calgary might be the one to add if they want a piece of that caliber.

Last year Buffalo traded a "high end prospect" for a 3rd line center and have appeared to win that trade by a landslide so far.

Sabres can keep collecting all the "high end" prospects they want but if they aren't actively helping a desperate team get closer to the playoffs, they are simply just prospects.

You have to basically force a winning culture into the organization and taking some "projected value losses" to do that is worth it in the long run because your core guys will want to be there and other players will want to come there.

 

[Satanphonehome]

Last year Buffalo traded a "high end prospect" for a 3rd line center and have appeared to win that trade by a landslide so far.

Sabres can keep collecting all the "high end" prospects they want but if they aren't actively helping a desperate team get closer to the playoffs, they are simply just prospects.

You have to basically force a winning culture into the organization and taking some "projected value losses" to do that is worth it in the long run because your core guys will want to be there and other players will want to come there.

This might be true, but it's not relevant to the discussion at hand.

The Sabres aren't being asked to trade Ostlund or Kulich for a 24-year-centre with 3 years team control and possible upside who will be there for the long run, they're trading him for one year of a very good defenceman.