Confirmed with Link: Anderson to Habs for Domi and a 3rd II

[ECWHSWI]

I’m not expecting 30 goals, I mean it might happen but a reliable 20-25 goals from him is what I’m expecting.

I’m excited to see who he will play with and what kind of chemistry he can develop with either Suzuki or Kotkaniemi.

why not ?

 

[Redux91]

One thing I noticed about Anderson in his goal scoring highlight pack is that he had a few empty net goals. That implies to me that he's a guy that Torts trusted in big situations.

He did play the PP of course, but was he also a regular PK guy for the Jackets, and is he good at it?

That was my #1 takeaway from those couple empty netters as well
Trusted late in games

Compared to domi which a big fat LOOOL

 

[1909]

so the guy is not really a steal, he's not a bargain either... he's projected, IF healthy, to be a 25 goal scorer (not 30, 35 or 40, but 25), - MAYBE 50 pts forward, play well on the PK, have a physical game...


so, we're extatic cause Bergevin acquired a differend breed of 40/50 pts player ?

Yes ! Habs needed badly this type of player. And we should be all happy to get him. Let's hope for the best. With Suzuki and Drouin or Tatar, and some PP time, he could easily brake that 30 goal barrier. And get around 60 points.

If by some miracle MB signs Hall (and deal Drouin or Tatar or Byron to get some $$$), Anderson could aim at 40 goals.

 

[Redux91]

so the guy is not really a steal, he's not a bargain either... he's projected, IF healthy, to be a 25 goal scorer (not 30, 35 or 40, but 25), - MAYBE 50 pts forward, play well on the PK, have a physical game...


so, we're extatic cause Bergevin acquired a differend breed of 40/50 pts player ?

It doesnt HAVE to be one or the other that's ridiculous to obsess over

You want a 5"9 player over a 6"3 220 player..? Who are making the same money? Is this what you want?
Do you..enjoy the team being called "smurfs" for as long as I can remember..?

I mean help us out here

 

[ECWHSWI]

Yes ! Habs needed badly this type of player. And we should be all happy to get him. Let's hope for the best. With Suzuki and Drouin or Tatar, and some PP time, he could easily brake that 30 goal barrier.

Habd need 100 pts players way more than a Anderson
Habs also need PPG players way more than a Anderson

the he's exactly what the team needs never work unless the C is Adam Oates and he's playing next to Brett. Case in point, the last time Bergevin acquired a player who was exactly what the Habs needed and BM was praised for acquiring such a player in a trade... well, the team did not get any better for it, it got worse actually.

So yeah, do the Habs miss players of Anderson play style, maybe... Will he be fun to watch, probably... Do the Habs as a whole have a better offense becasue of the trade ? sure, if you believe he's the missing piece or something...

 

[ECWHSWI]

It doesnt HAVE to be one or the other that's ridiculous to obsess over

You want a 5"9 player over a 6"3 220 player..? Who are making the same money? Is this what you want?
Do you..enjoy the team being called "smurfs" for as long as I can remember..?

I mean help us out here

wtf you're talking about ? do you read the posts you quote ?

 

[Be a Hab]

why not ?

Because expecting something a 26 year old NHLer to accomplish that he has never accomplished before is the perfect way to get frustrated.

I’m just saying if you’re expecting 30 goals, you might be disappointed. Hopefully I get pleasantly surprised and he exceeds my expectations!

 

[Redux91]

wtf you're talking about ? do you read the posts you quote ?

Do you read the shit you SAY lmao

 

[ECWHSWI]

Because expecting something a 26 year old NHLer to accomplish that he has never accomplished before is the perfect way to get frustrated.

I’m just saying if you’re expecting 30 goals, you might be disappointed. Hopefully I get pleasantly surprised and he exceeds my expectations!

but we can expect at least 50 pts right ?

 

[ECWHSWI]

Do you read the shit you SAY lmao

great post.

 

[1909]

Habd need 100 pts players way more than a Anderson
Habs also need PPG players way more than a Anderson

the he's exactly what the team needs never work unless the C is Adam Oates and he's playing next to Brett. Case in point, the last time Bergevin acquired a player who was exactly what the Habs needed and BM was praised for acquiring such a player in a trade... well, the team did not get any better for it, it got worse actually.

So yeah, do the Habs miss players of Anderson play style, maybe... Will he be fun to watch, probably... Do the Habs as a whole have a better offense becasue of the trade ? sure, if you believe he's the missing piece or something...

100 points players don't grow on trees. Who was the last Habs player who did that ? Only a handful of players in the whole NHL can reach that. You're talking about Hall ? You cannot force a UFA to sign in MTL. The guy has 31 teams to chose from.

Every teams need a 100 points player. Very, very few got one.

And hockey is still a TEAM sport. Dallas, which had the second lowest offense in the whole NHL last season went to the SC Finals.

 

[majormajor]

One thing I noticed about Anderson in his goal scoring highlight pack is that he had a few empty net goals. That implies to me that he's a guy that Torts trusted in big situations.

He did play the PP of course, but was he also a regular PK guy for the Jackets, and is he good at it?

Anderson is an excellent PKer.

Yes ! Habs needed badly this type of player. And we should be all happy to get him. Let's hope for the best. With Suzuki and Drouin or Tatar, and some PP time, he could easily brake that 30 goal barrier. And get around 60 points.

If by some miracle MB signs Hall (and deal Drouin or Tatar or Byron to get some $$$), Anderson could aim at 40 goals.

I think that sort of rosy situation is all besides the point with Anderson. Yes he might score a ton in the perfect situation (as would about 100 wingers in the league) but he provides more value as the guy that can score a decent amount on any line. Let Suzuki elevate someone who needs more coddling, and let Anderson score 25 on the third line. Did anyone take note of the role Alex Tuch plays on Vegas? That's what Josh Anderson can do.

so the guy is not really a steal, he's not a bargain either... he's projected, IF healthy, to be a 25 goal scorer (not 30, 35 or 40, but 25), - MAYBE 50 pts forward, play well on the PK, have a physical game...


so, we're extatic cause Bergevin acquired a differend breed of 40/50 pts player ?

Pretty much, 25G, 45 points, except "have a physical game" is a slightly understated way of saying "send opponents fleeing in fear".

 

[1909]

Because expecting something a 26 year old NHLer to accomplish that he has never accomplished before is the perfect way to get frustrated.

I’m just saying if you’re expecting 30 goals, you might be disappointed. Hopefully I get pleasantly surprised and he exceeds my expectations!

The guy scored 27 two years ago with almost no PP time. He was not playing with Panarin either. Yes, the guy can reach 30 goals. he did not lose his talent overnite.

 

[1909]

Anderson is an excellent PKer.



I think that sort of rosy situation is all besides the point with Anderson. Yes he might score a ton in the perfect situation (as would about 100 wingers in the league) but he provides more value as the guy that can score a decent amount on any line. Let Suzuki elevate someone who needs more coddling, and let Anderson score 25 on the third line. Did anyone take note of the role Alex Tuch plays on Vegas? That's what Josh Anderson can do.



Pretty much, 25G, 45 points, except "have a physical game" is a slightly understated way of saying "send opponents fleeing in fear".

Putting Anderson on a third line is a waste of talent (and money). Suzuki and Drouin or Tatar will play way more confortably with a guy like Anderson on their RW. Look at Wilson in Washington.

I am not blind. habs don't have the typical 1st line that teams like Boston, TO , or Colorado have, but they have very good second line players who will split the production among them. Suzuki has the potential to become a #1 centerman. He's got all the skills to do so.

 

[ECWHSWI]

100 points players don't grow on trees. Who was the last Habs player who did that ? Only a handful of players in the whole NHL can reach that. You're talking about Hall ? You cannot force a UFA to sign in MTL. The guy has 31 teams to chose from.

Every teams need a 100 points player. Very, very few got one.

And hockey is still a TEAM sport. Dallas, which had the second lowest offense in the whole NHL last season went to the SC Finals.

so Habs at being the exception, not the norm and they should be praised for it ?

one team make it to the SCF with a shif offense, Habs try to emulate that, the year before the SCF winners were the biggest team in the league, Habs try to emulate that...

 

[ECWHSWI]

Pretty much, 25G, 45 points, except "have a physical game" is a slightly understated way of saying "send opponents fleeing in fear".

look, we're Habs fans... go easy on us!

 

[1909]

so Habs at being the exception, not the norm and they should be praised for it ?

one team make it to the SCF with a shif offense, Habs try to emulate that, the year before the SCF winners were the biggest team in the league, Habs try to emulate that...

I am just saying that you need different types of players to make a TEAM. And that Anderson was one piece of the puzzle which was badly missing. If the Habs can draft or trade r sign for a superstar forward. The better it is. But stop under evaluate the acquisition of Anderson. Habs are better, more solid than they were last March or at the end of these Playoffs. Lots of work to do, but they are on the right path.

 

[ECWHSWI]

I am just saying that you need different types of players to make a TEAM. And that Anderson was one piece of the puzzle which was badly missing. If the Habs can draft or trade r sign for a superstar forward. The better it is. But stop under evaluate the acquisition of Anderson. Habs are better, more solid than they were last March or at the end of these Playoffs. Lots of work to do, but they are on the right path.

I'm not, I'm just reading comments by people (who barelys saw him play btw) and try to understand how amazing he is.

 

[Ezpz]

As long as he's not as unengaged as Rene Bourque it'll be fine.

 

[1909]

I'm not, I'm just reading comments by people (who barelys saw him play btw) and try to understand how amazing he is.

We saw him quite often over the years. Anderson is bringing something to this team that it did not have since years: size, meanness, scoring and hitting skills, defensive awareness in the same package. But if you prefer Domi, it's allright.

 

[ECWHSWI]

We saw him quite often over the years. Anderson is bringing something to this team that it did not have since years: size, meanness, scoring and hitting skills, defensive awareness in the same package. But if you prefer Domi, it's allright.

Dont care one bit for Domi.

 

[Habs Icing]

but we can expect at least 50 pts right ?

Never did it in the NHL.

 

[JianYang]

Because expecting something a 26 year old NHLer to accomplish that he has never accomplished before is the perfect way to get frustrated.

I’m just saying if you’re expecting 30 goals, you might be disappointed. Hopefully I get pleasantly surprised and he exceeds my expectations!

With Anderson, I think part of the value is going to be defined in other ways. Of course, he still has to show that he belongs in the top 6, so there will a certain degree of competency expected from the point production standpoint, but that bar does not have to be set at 30 goals.

Other measures to consider are not as easily defined, such as whether he can create more offensive zone time through successful forechecks, and getting pucks loose..... less "one and done" types of shifts for Montreal. Retrieving pucks off forechecks, and winning pucks in board battles or loose pucks in the trenches has definitely been an issue for most of Montreal's forwards IMO.

Can he create more chaos in the tough areas, and liberate the smaller skilled guys a bit more to have better looks, and not to have them pre-occupied spending so much time in trying to regain puck possession themselves.

Part of the measure for me is not so much about how many goals Anderson scores, but whether his teammates are able to get more scoring opportunities as a result of what he brings. This may not reflect in his goals and assists, but it could have a positive impact on his linemates production.

With the number they arrived at contract wise, it seems to me that the anderson party looked at Tom Wilson as the comparable, and that is probably what Bergevin thinks he is paying for. As with Wilson, his entire value won't be wrapped up solely in goals and assists.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Habd need 100 pts players way more than a Anderson
Habs also need PPG players way more than a Anderson

the he's exactly what the team needs never work unless the C is Adam Oates and he's playing next to Brett. Case in point, the last time Bergevin acquired a player who was exactly what the Habs needed and BM was praised for acquiring such a player in a trade... well, the team did not get any better for it, it got worse actually.

So yeah, do the Habs miss players of Anderson play style, maybe... Will he be fun to watch, probably... Do the Habs as a whole have a better offense becasue of the trade ? sure, if you believe he's the missing piece or something...

The fact that the habs need a Crosby more than an Anderson is a logical fallacy. That is absolutely absurd logic.

The rest of your points come off as contradictory, Anderson is a missing piece for sure. He's not the Mcdavid literally every team could use that's for sure. Neither is Domi.

 

[Be a Hab]

but we can expect at least 50 pts right ?

You can expect a guy that can skate, hit win battles along the boards and has a scoring touch. We had to many players that resembled Max Domi so we traded him for a player that we had none of, A power forward. If you like the player Tom Wilson is that you like Anderson.