Analyzing the results of Sabres' 2016-2020 drafts

[Tatanka]

I also think the calculus should include equivalents, bith good and bad. For example jokers gp should be included as an equivalent for Nylander while we got bumpkus for Hagel.

 

[DJN21]

Id take all these drafts over the ones prior highlighted by the likes of Cornell and karabacek etc. We bled middle round picks for years on busts. Even guys like Bailey and Baptiste have nhl games but little to no impact.

 

[Chainshot]

Id take all these drafts over the ones prior highlighted by the likes of Cornell and karabacek etc. We bled middle round picks for years on busts. Even guys like Bailey and Baptiste have nhl games but little to no impact.

The issue with the Karabacek draft year is also something to consider - not every draft year is this same. Fifteen guys in the 2nd round of that 2014 draft didn’t play at least five NHL games. Twelve didn’t even play one NHL game.

 

[Tatanka]

The entire thread is illustrative of why draft and develop is not how good teams are built. You need acquisition and acquisition in important spots to have enough talent to compete and to ensure those homegrown hits are in a place to succeed while the value of other draft assets are determined. Jmho.

 

[DJN21]

The issue with the Karabacek draft year is also something to consider - not every draft year is this same. Fifteen guys in the 2nd round of that 2014 draft didn’t play at least five NHL games. Twelve didn’t even play one NHL game.

Trade your draft capital then lol. (Ik ik easy to say looking back haha)

 

[jc17]

Jarvis is the only player on that list that I'd even entertain the conversation for.

Lundell should be entertained


And back to the OP boldy would have been a slight reach but not absurd. Lot of people here wanted him. Cozens only beat him out by 3 votes in a draft poll thread that year

 

[Chainshot]

Trade your draft capital then lol. (Ik ik easy to say looking back haha)

As teams build their book, they start to assign value to those pics. It was part of the reason why Murray was willing to trade a couple of second round draft picks. He even said at the time if they use them all, where will people play? Which is the problem Adams is having now where he has legitimate prospects who can grow aren’t even seeing the ice in his primary minor-league team because he’s jammed at so full with all of his recent high drafts. There’s no opportunity for anybody to work their way up and into the lineup who isn’t one of those pics Because they straight up good preferential treatment. They’re not going to find a Hagel of their own simply because there’s no room to take a chance on anyone but their own top fortyish draft picks.

 

[joshjull]

Jack Quinn is not a B. For his spot id call him a D. The dude has barely played, barely had any impact and a handful of consistent and good players were picked after him: Mercer, Perfetti, Rossi, Askarov, Lundell, Jarvis

Quinn has played 108gms. One more than Rossi (107gms) and only 35 fewer than Perfetti (143gms). Thats not quite “barely playing” even if he has missed a decent amount of time.

His goals per game (.22) is on par with Rossi (.21), Perfetti (.20) and Lundell (.21). Mercer (.26) is better as is Jarvis (.28)

His points per game (.55) is on par with Mercer (.53), Lundell (.53), Perfetti (.52) and better than Rossi (.42). Jarvis is better than all of them (.63)



Seems pretty harsh to call that a D grade.

 

[Gras]

he was actually the top center from the end of 22-23 until his trade

Anytime Tage and Cozens were both healthy Mitts was deployed as the 3C on this time.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I don’t see why guys we traded for value should be Fs just because they wound up playing somewhere else. Heck, even guys who did nothing after being traded shouldn’t be Fs if we got value out of them (eg, Cliff Pu).

 

[Matt Ress]

It's probably my harshest grade. I frankly am not happy with trading Portillo for another pick 4 years later - I think that's bad asset management.

That's fair. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly but that was Portillo's choice to move and not the FO's

 

[CowbellConray]

That's fair. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly but that was Portillo's choice to move and not the FO's

Yea, Portillo wanted out because Levi came in and was crowned the future. I think Adams could have managed that relationship a bit better, but regardless, here we are, hoping that Mccarthey can develop into something valuable over the next 3-4 years.