Proposal: Anaheim and Montréal

[Notabaguette]

Habs trade
Ryan Poehling
2nd round pick

Anaheim trade
Max Comtois
3rd round pick

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[S.S. Giggy]

Pass on that from a Ducks' perspective.

 

[BLNY]

Can't see the Ducks doing this. Would be a sell low for the Ducks. Comtois has a lot more offense in his game.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Easy pass for Anaheim

 

[Barnaby]

I knew this would be bad before I clicked on it.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Why habs are giving a 2nd and Ducks a 3 . We are last in the league lmao.

Easy no

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Take out the 3rd from Anaheim and add another 2nd going to Anaheim

 

[Cenzo_]

Take out the 3rd from Anaheim and add another 2nd going to Anaheim

Wait a minute here… both players are 6’2, 210 pound 23 years olds, one is a center with 12 pts in 44 g while the other is a winger with 9 pts in 35 games and the value difference should be 2 2nd picks?

 

[Habsrule]

No way the Ducks do that.

 

[bsu]

Absolutely not.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Not thanks, the habs need centers and their 2nd is basically a late first.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Wait a minute here… both players are 6’2, 210 pound 23 years olds, one is a center with 12 pts in 44 g while the other is a winger with 9 pts in 35 games and the value difference should be 2 2nd picks?

We pretending Comtois didn't lead the ducks in scoring last year at 22 are we?

Comtois has 129GP with 60 points. Poehling 72GP with 17 points. Comtois is having a bad season but looked like a legit top 6 player last year. Poehling hasn't shown he's anything but a depth player.

Fine keep the Anaheim 3rd with Comtois, would still take 2-2nd to get them to sell him.

 

[TBF1972]

We pretending Comtois didn't lead the ducks in scoring last year at 22 are we?

Comtois has 129GP with 60 points. Poehling 72GP with 17 points. Comtois is having a bad season but looked like a legit top 6 player last year. Poehling hasn't shown he's anything but a depth player.

Fine keep the Anaheim 3rd with Comtois, would still take 2-2nd to get them to sell him.

just accept it and tell them petry, gallagher and all the other overpaid veterans are all negative value assets based on this seasons play, which means montral would have to pay to unload this contracts.

anaheim on the other hand would still not make that trade.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Wait a minute here… both players are 6’2, 210 pound 23 years olds, one is a center with 12 pts in 44 g while the other is a winger with 9 pts in 35 games and the value difference should be 2 2nd picks?

Yikes, keep your trash we good

 

[anezthes]

Non merci.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

Yikes, keep your trash we good

We good too.

Must be a good proposai if all fanbases hate it.

[MOD]

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Habs are not giving a 2nd (almost a 1st round pick) for Comtois.

 

[Number 57]

Poehling for Comtois is fair, no need to add picks.

As a Habs fan, I'm keeping Poehling. We have plenty of wingers, and centers are more valuable. Poehling still has 2C upside. He's big, physical with skills and can skate.

I'm still interested in Comtois if available though

 

[Baksfamous112]

We pretending Comtois didn't lead the ducks in scoring last year at 22 are we?

Comtois has 129GP with 60 points. Poehling 72GP with 17 points. Comtois is having a bad season but looked like a legit top 6 player last year. Poehling hasn't shown he's anything but a depth player.

Fine keep the Anaheim 3rd with Comtois, would still take 2-2nd to get them to sell him.

So a young player had an outlier season, pacing for 49 points and then revert back to his normal self and he’s supposed to keep his worth? I personally would be very hesitant to even give what is basically going to be a first round pick in our second, let alone add to get Comtois

 

[RationalExpectations]

This MTL pick is basically a late first (33-35 OA). Comtois has had one good season since he was drafted 5 years ago. I don't think he holds that much value. I think MTL does not do it because of the risk associated. I think ANA does not do it hoping Comtois performs similarly to what he did last year in the future.

By the way I am not saying Poehling has great value either. He has been also quite disappointing since being drafted.

 

[barrie colts]

Habs trade
Ryan Poehling
2nd round pick

Anaheim trade
Max Comtois
3rd round pick

Counter with

Ylonen + Armia +_2022 (3rd from Carolina) for Comtois + 2023 (4th)

 

[ManofSteel55]

Wait a minute here… both players are 6’2, 210 pound 23 years olds, one is a center with 12 pts in 44 g while the other is a winger with 9 pts in 35 games and the value difference should be 2 2nd picks?

One is going through a sophomore slump and likely just needs an offseason to clear his head, or at worst, a shakeup trade to a team willing to take him on as a reclamation project. The other is a guy who barely cracked the NHL due to injuries and a lack of team depth. Only one of these two players has much of a chance of being a top six option going forward. Potential top line forward, vs a probable 3rd line forward. There needs to be significant pieces added to even it up.

 

[Baksfamous112]

One is going through a sophomore slump and likely just needs an offseason to clear his head, or at worst, a shakeup trade to a team willing to take him on as a reclamation project. The other is a guy who barely cracked the NHL due to injuries and a lack of team depth. Only one of these two players has much of a chance of being a top six option going forward. Potential top line forward, vs a probable 3rd line forward. There needs to be significant pieces added to even it up.

Both the same age, one had an outlier season and went back to his normal self and is now a regular guest in the press box. The other one battled injuries for two years and is now healthy and showing he is at the very least a solid 3rd line center with possibilities to be a very good top 6 two way center if he continue to progress.

See how easy it is to write a narrative when you want to put player A on a pedestal and make player B look bad.

 

[Number 57]

/worlds smallest violin

No one is trading an early 2nd for Comtois, let alone adding Poehling. Give your head a shake

 

[WhatTheDuck]

This MTL pick is basically a late first (33-35 OA). Comtois has had one good season since he was drafted 5 years ago. I don't think he holds that much value. I think MTL does not do it because of the risk associated. I think ANA does not do it hoping Comtois performs similarly to what he did last year in the future.

By the way I am not saying Poehling has great value either. He has been also quite disappointing since being drafted.

"Comtois has had one good season since he was drafted 5 years ago" could really not be a more disingenuous choice of phrasing. The truth is in fact quite the opposite, Comtois is having his first bad season since being drafted.

Draft+1 - Breakout offensive year in the QMJHL registering 45 G 41 A in 54 games, also six points in seven WJC. Couldn't really have asked or expected a better 18 year old season.

D+2 - Earns a trial look in the Ducks lineup to start the year as a 19 year old and manages to put up 7 points in 10 games. Sent back down to the Q where he posts even more dominant numbers than the year prior, also captains Canada at the WJC. Overall, another excellent season to round out his junior career.

D+3 - Very good season split between the AHL and NHL as a 20 year old first year pro.

D+4 - Leads the Ducks in scoring with 33 points in 55 games, which would just under a 50 point pace for a full season. All but four of his points at 5on5 I might add.

D+5 - This year

The two are the same age and may be having similar struggles at the moment but Comtois has shown so much more at the NHL level, both in terms of total production and peak performance. Calling last year his only good season in five years, could not have been more of a false statement. For a player drafted late 2nd round, just how good would he have needed to be to as a prospect in order to have met your standards for having a "good season" ?