Confirmed with Link: [ANA/STL] Cam Fowler and 2027 4th round pick for 2027 2nd round and Jeremie Biakabutuka

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Fowler rejuvenated is just one check mark on the “Cronin needs to go” list , the bigger issue are the kids regressing or not progressing much.

Ya the highlight of the young players is zegras is competes in all 3 zones now at the expense of like 40 points.

The biggest issue with fowler is that maybe if we had a capable coach we coulda got more trade value on fowler.

 

[Terry Yake]

fowler was probably also mailing it in at the end too knowing his days with the ducks were limited

glad he's doing well with the blues, but there was no reason to keep him when he was going to be blocking the young d-men

 

[duckpuck]

fowler was probably also mailing it in at the end too knowing his days with the ducks were limited

glad he's doing well with the blues, but there was no reason to keep him when he was going to be blocking the young d-men

It sure seemed he was mailing it in. I think he was also upset about not being named captain.

I don't think anyone - even Fowler's biggest critics - are surprised to see him thriving on a better team where he plays with another top d-man with a profile that perfectly covers Fowler's flaws. It wasn't going to happen with the ducks and personally I'd rather see Minty/Helleson play for the ducks than Fowler (the version we had in Anaheim) at this point.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I mean he sucked when he was here and that wasn’t going to change.

He was also blocking the young guys that are the future of the team, it was time.

He’s not our problem anymore, so ya no one is really going to bring him up much anymore, other than the team has looked fine without him.

Maybe we won’t hear the “you don’t want to see the team without Fowler crowd”


I think everyone agrees here…. Idk what pv is waiting for.

You and others were making the obligatory “I was right about Fowler” “record without Fowler posts”.

It’s bait, you’re the prime offender, and stop playing the innocent card.

 

[Ducks DVM]

It should be another argument for why the biggest issue with this team is coaching. How can we even effectively evaluate the players in this environment because of Fowler. How many other players would feel rejuvenated and this play better with him gone?

Rhymes with “all”.

Very closely.

 

[Ducks DVM]

fowler was probably also mailing it in at the end too knowing his days with the ducks were limited

glad he's doing well with the blues, but there was no reason to keep him when he was going to be blocking the young d-men

Counterpoint - he was mailing it in because he had a GM who didn’t want him, a coach that misused him, and the young players have been a mixed bag since. Every single one of them would likely have benefitted from a change in coaching.

 

[Leonardo87]

Counterpoint - he was mailing it in because he had a GM who didn’t want him, a coach that misused him, and the young players have been a mixed bag since. Every single one of them would likely have benefitted from a change in coaching.

Need to change the scenery around our players without having to trade them. Starts with new coach , system, and just a better culture.

Can see the looks on their faces, Terry ties game looks like someone stole his Teddy Bear, and I know Cronin stole Leo’s. lol

 

[ScarTroy]

I think it’s fair to think Cam was still a good player, but also to think the team is better off without him. Whether it was coaching, or him mailing it in, or both, he just wasn’t working here anymore. Still doesn’t change the way I feel about him, loved his tenure here.

 

[DavidBL]

I think it’s fair to think Cam was still a good player, but also to think the team is better off without him. Whether it was coaching, or him mailing it in, or both, he just wasn’t working here anymore. Still doesn’t change the way I feel about him, loved his tenure here.

It does beg the question though, how do we get to the point where a good top 4 d man returns a 2nd 2 years into the future with 2.5 mill retained? I think it likely frustrated everyone involved. Screems poor management IMO. Then again, I haven't really been a PV fan since his first TDL.

 

[ScarTroy]

It does beg the question though, how do we get to the point where a good top 4 d man returns a 2nd 2 years into the future with 2.5 mill retained? I think it likely frustrated everyone involved. Screens poor management IMO. Then again, I haven't really been a PV fan since his first TDL.

Oh trust me I have had plenty concerns over returns for these trades but I was told that taking on Trouba at full contract and paying to do so, while using unused cap space from the summer was actually weaponizing cap space.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

It does beg the question though, how do we get to the point where a good top 4 d man returns a 2nd 2 years into the future with 2.5 mill retained? I think it likely frustrated everyone involved. Screems poor management IMO. Then again, I haven't really been a PV fan since his first TDL.

Simple. You have a coaching staff so bad that they make all their players look worse than they are. Then you trade them cheap and blame all poor performance on the players.

If this team trades a Z or Mac before firing Cronin they will hasten their own demise.

 

[la patineuse]

Delete: wrong thread.

 

[mightyquack]

Fowler playing well is the least surprising thing ever, and makes me very happy to see. Must be a relief playing in a proper NHL level system which he hasn't experienced since RC was here (who could have known RC would be a better coach then Eakins and Cronin put together ).

 

[robbieboy3686]

1000th game 1st goal in the winter classic game. Good for him

 

[WhatTheDuck]

 

[Terry Yake]

he looks rejuvenated. what getting away from cronin does

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I actually really like those blues uniforms for the game today.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I actually really like those blues uniforms for the game today.

Same, it's a clean look

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Same, it's a clean look

Ya the blues always had a cool color scheme + logo/design, but these might actually be my favorite jerseys theyve had.

side note... its very funny watching other teams powerplay after watching our teams powerplay the last couple years.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Ya the blues always had a cool color scheme + logo/design, but these might actually be my favorite jerseys theyve had.

My local minor hockey org was the Blues, so I grew up in those colours and have always been quite partial to them. These are definitely one of the best version I've seen

 

[2faded]

Winter Classic? Isn't that supposed to be tomorrow?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Winter Classic? Isn't that supposed to be tomorrow?

Yeah it's weird to have it NYE because now it's technically a second 2024 WC

 

[Leonardo87]

2 goals for Cam. So happy for him. If he gets a hat trick can they fire Cronin to the moon tonight? lol

 

[DuckRogers10]

Fowler looking good. That's what can happen under a legit head coach. Fire Cronin.

 

[Goose of Reason]

I'm so happy for Cam, I'm glad he's doing well and I hope the Blues fan base treats him better than he got here.