Proposal: ANA-OTT

[Voodoo Child]

Drake Batherson, 27 (4.98x3)


Trevor Zegras, 24 (5.75x2)

Batherson had a no good, very very bad time in round 1, many Sens fans want to move on, inconsistent but great size.

Zegras looks demotivated but has difference-making skill up front.

Batherson more of a sure thing, Zegras a bit of a gamble.

Who adds and how much?

 

[SmokeyDuck]

Very interesting proposal. Don't hate it honestly.

 

[SensontheRush]

Drake Batherson had more than double Zegras' points this year. He's on the cheaper contract. He's 6ft3, 200 lbs to Zegras' 6ft0 185 lbs. He's a RWer, which is more valuable than a LWer. Batherson trains with Sidney Crosby every single offseason, while Zegras has been trade bait for, what, three seasons now? For supposed attitude issues?

What are we doing here boys?

 

[majormajor]

The only reason Ottawa would move Batherson is to flip him for a more consistent two-way guy. There's no reason to flip him for Zegras.

 

[tomd]

Any team that wants Zegras should be looking at him as a 2C who can feed shooters on either wing. If your team doesn't need that then Zegras probably isn't your guy. But if you need that type of player, Zegras should be an attractive option if coached properly. With all the teams looking for a 2C right now, I have to believe Zegras will find a new home if Verbeek wants to trade him.

 

[ref19]

Drake Batherson had more than double Zegras' points this year. He's on the cheaper contract. He's 6ft3, 200 lbs to Zegras' 6ft0 185 lbs. He's a RWer, which is more valuable than a LWer. Batherson trains with Sidney Crosby every single offseason, while Zegras has been trade bait for, what, three seasons now? For supposed attitude issues?

What are we doing here boys?

Good ole HFBoards

 

[Rasp]

I prefer to keep Zegras and let him thrive under a new coach. Cronin was the problem which has now been removed

 

[Canucks LB]

Drake Batherson, 27 (4.98x3)


Trevor Zegras, 24 (5.75x2)

Batherson had a no good, very very bad time in round 1, many Sens fans want to move on, inconsistent but great size.

Zegras looks demotivated but has difference-making skill up front.

Batherson more of a sure thing, Zegras a bit of a gamble.

Who adds and how much?

Seems fair

 

[anezthes]

Drake Batherson, 27 (4.98x3)


Trevor Zegras, 24 (5.75x2)

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

I think it’s not a bad offer…. And a trade that makes sense. I think batherson is a guy PV would like too

But I’m very hesitant to move zegras until we see him under a new coach

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

The only reason Ottawa would move Batherson is to flip him for a more consistent two-way guy. There's no reason to flip him for Zegras.

This tells me you didn’t watch Anaheim this year. Zegras has DRAMATICALLY changed his game in order to be an effective 2 way guy. That’s probably the best thing to come out of the Cronin era. He’s a different player in a good way.

 

[Rec T]

The Ducks really shouldn't be trading any young/younger players until they've had a chance under a new coach. Cronin really demolished a lot of their development potentials, they need to see who recovers. Chances are many/most will bounce back, I'd rather it not be on a different team with 'their' coach. Will some probably need moved, sure. However that probably shouldn't start until January or so after a solid number of games to show themselves.

The only exception should be if they're part of a package for a truly elite player (& not just a really good one) that's just too good to pass up.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Don’t see Ottawa doing this.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I think Ottawa will look at a trade like this… targetting a C like Cirelli or Danault, possibly in a trade involving Cozens, Pinto, or Batherson, but I dont think Zegras would be the right fit.

 

[majormajor]

This tells me you didn’t watch Anaheim this year. Zegras has DRAMATICALLY changed his game in order to be an effective 2 way guy. That’s probably the best thing to come out of the Cronin era. He’s a different player in a good way.

I'm aware that Zegras has taken strides in those respects. He's still not the player that Ottawa is seeking in exchange for Batherson.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Drake Batherson had more than double Zegras' points this year. He's on the cheaper contract. He's 6ft3, 200 lbs to Zegras' 6ft0 185 lbs. He's a RWer, which is more valuable than a LWer. Batherson trains with Sidney Crosby every single offseason, while Zegras has been trade bait for, what, three seasons now? For supposed attitude issues?

What are we doing here boys?

So we're just saying whatever comes to mind now huh

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

So we're just saying whatever comes to mind now huh

I suspect there may be a factual basis to argue that “top line RS winger” is more rare than “top line LS winger”, but could be way off or statistically insignificant

 

[Jared Dunn]

I suspect there may be a factual basis to argue that “top line RS winger” is more rare than “top line LS winger”, but could be way off or statistically insignificant

I definitely think right shots are just less common in general but off the top of my head most of the best right wingers in the league are left shots anyways. I think claiming one wing is worth more than the other is a wild take lol it's clearly trying to apply the logic of the shortage of quality RD to forwards, don't think it makes near as much of a difference though

 

[SpezDispenser]

lol no chance from an Ottawa POV. If we trade Batherson and his sweet deal, it'll be for a major upgrade.

 

[SensontheRush]

Good ole HFBoards

So we're just saying whatever comes to mind now huh

Well what are we arguing here? Yes, Batherson being a RHS is more valuable due to scarcity, and unless you are Ovechkin, there are some negatives to playing your offside relative to your handedness. Batherson is true RHS RWer, instead of a LWer asked to play the right wing, like Lafreniere for example.

Zegras of course is historically a centre, but it doesn't seem like he's cut out for that.

 

[FiveTacos]

Zegras of course is historically a centre, but it doesn't seem like he's cut out for that.

I really don't understand why people keep saying this. The last two years when he's played C, he's paced at 50-60 points. It's at LW his production has nosedived. Every time either Carlsson or McTavish have been out and he's been put at C, his production comes back. Even Cronin admitted at one point that Zegras was better as a C.

It was only in that last little stretch this past season that he started producing at LW.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I suspect there may be a factual basis to argue that “top line RS winger” is more rare than “top line LS winger”, but could be way off or statistically insignificant

In Canada more left shots, US born, there are more right handed shots.
Think from a poll done a year a or two ago, going by the posts involved.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Nope, Sens don’t need Zegras - the C position is our deepest, and already have Greig playing the wing…also Batherson’s ability, size and sweet deal contract for 2 more years if moved would be for something we need if moved at all.

Stutzle
Pinto
Cozens
Greig

 

[SensontheRush]

I really don't understand why people keep saying this. The last two years when he's played C, he's paced at 50-60 points. It's at LW his production has nosedived. Every time either Carlsson or McTavish have been out and he's been put at C, his production comes back. Even Cronin admitted at one point that Zegras was better as a C.

It was only in that last little stretch this past season that he started producing at LW.

That's fair! I'm misinformed then.

 

[Gliff]

The Ducks shouldn’t be trading anyone until they get a shot under a new coach.