Amazon Go, the Grocery Store

seafoam

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May 17, 2011
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What do you guys think? Apparently over three million people are cashiers in the US, what is going to happen to their jobs?

http://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...ll-even-know-whether-you-put-something-back-4

The idea is that Amazon's machine-learning technology can automatically identify when a product is added to your cart, so you don't have to do it yourself. When you leave the store, Amazon automatically charges your Amazon account.

The stores will sell ready-made food, staples like bread and milk, and other grocery products. Amazon says its stores are about 1,800 square feet, so they are relatively small compared with big supermarkets.

Amazon internal plans show it could build 2,000 grocery stores across the US in the next decade, Business Insider previously reported.

The first Amazon Go store is scheduled to open to the public in Seattle early next year.
 

Bones Malone

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Oct 22, 2010
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Is this kind of technological advancement really that much beneficial enough for that many people to lose jobs though?

I have no problem with smelly, cross-eyed, slow af cashiers who want to talk to me about their lives losing their jobs if I don't have to stand in their lines anymore.
 

Fixed to Ruin

Come wit it now!
Feb 28, 2007
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What do you guys think? Apparently over three million people are cashiers in the US, what is going to happen to their jobs?

http://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...ll-even-know-whether-you-put-something-back-4

Love it.

Will be a loyal customer.

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Kairi Zaide

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I would say people who work as cashiers don't have the skills or qualifications to do so

But I know you're a terrible uncompassionate person who looks down on the uneducated and unskilled workers so it wouldn't bother you
Should people with the skills or qualifications to do develop such a thing be limited because of people who do not have these skills or qualifications? What about the software engineer who either has this job, due to it being the only opening he can realistically apply for, or not (ie all the efforts he put into becoming a software engineer are being wasted)

Such technologies would end up, in the long run, potentially decreasing cost of food, since pay roll for grocery stores would be smaller.
 

RandV

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I would say people who work as cashiers don't have the skills or qualifications to do so

And then they get an equal vote to yours and elect Donald Trump as President :help:

Seriously though I'm more concerned here is if Amazon is going to start replacing workers like this then are they even a company making any money yet? Also there's a lot of security complications involved with this kind of scan and charge your phone thing.
 

Dog

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Should people with the skills or qualifications to do develop such a thing be limited because of people who do not have these skills or qualifications? What about the software engineer who either has this job, due to it being the only opening he can realistically apply for, or not (ie all the efforts he put into becoming a software engineer are being wasted)

Such technologies would end up, in the long run, potentially decreasing cost of food, since pay roll for grocery stores would be smaller.

One could argue that the set up and maintenance of such technologies could be more expensive than employing a few cashiers :dunno:

You still need overnight stock employees, even dayshift stock employees, janitors, managers etc.
 

Kairi Zaide

Unforgiven
Aug 11, 2009
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One could argue that the set up and maintenance of such technologies could be more expensive than employing a few cashiers :dunno:

You still need overnight stock employees, even dayshift stock employees, janitors, managers etc.
At the beginning, yes, hence why I said long run. If it wasn't going to save money and improve customer satisfaction, companies would not look into the development of these technologies.
 

Hansen

tyler motte simp
Oct 12, 2011
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Is this kind of technological advancement really that much beneficial enough for that many people to lose jobs though?

Just tax fully automated companies at a significantly higher rate and begin to grant a minimum wage to all citizens.
 

Deficient Mode

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Mar 25, 2011
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Should people with the skills or qualifications to do develop such a thing be limited because of people who do not have these skills or qualifications? What about the software engineer who either has this job, due to it being the only opening he can realistically apply for, or not (ie all the efforts he put into becoming a software engineer are being wasted)

Such technologies would end up, in the long run, potentially decreasing cost of food, since pay roll for grocery stores would be smaller.

Jeez Zaide ur such a deluded meritocratic nit. Trickle down economics is a lie perpetuated by the wealthy to expand their own wealth and power.
 

Finnish your Czech

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Nov 25, 2009
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Automation killing jobs is only fine if there is an increased social safety net for those that are out of work. Automation takes jobs away from the lower and middle class, and brings profits to the upper class.
 

tarheelhockey

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Feb 12, 2010
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I'll just say, I bought something at a department store for the first time in years yesterday. I was in a hurry and needed to just buy a shirt and go. There were like 8 people in line at the register (me being the only one under about 50 years old). The two cashiers were both geriatric, and took FOR FREAKING EVER to check people out. They were doing stuff like looking up prices out of a binder, leaving their register to help each other out, giving long explanations on why things work the way they do at the store, and generally just farting around wasting time and watching the line get longer. I cannot believe that people willingly go through that on a regular basis, even though it was basically the standard retail shopping experience 40 years ago.

Point being... there's a reason the world moved on as soon as a faster transaction model emerged. As a customer, it's almost offensive to be made to waste your time because a merchant hasn't kept up. Successful stores will adjust, others will try to stick to their ways and fail. It's just the way open marketplaces work.
 

PolishBingo

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My grandmother doesn't drive. She buys a lot of groceries through Amazon. Well, that and Schwan frozen food delivery.
 

Fixed to Ruin

Come wit it now!
Feb 28, 2007
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Just tax fully automated companies at a significantly higher rate and begin to grant a minimum wage to all citizens.

Won't work.

If you tax automation you will extremely noncompetitive against other countries and jurisdictions that won't tax automation leaving your economy at a disadvantage.

Also the minimum wage is the exact reason why we are seeing this rush towards automation & robotics.
 

beowulf

Not a nice guy.
Jan 29, 2005
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People losing their jobs shouldn't put a stop to technological advancements.

Sure why not, lets have more people with low paying or no job at all...this will work out well long term.

If we continue to automate there will be no choice but to provide everyone with a minimum income provided by the state.
 

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