He definitely said some stuff that could easily be interpreted as xenophobic.
Beyond that, he was a loud mouth idiot and he is not missed.
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He definitely said some stuff that could easily be interpreted as xenophobic.
Beyond that, he was a loud mouth idiot and he is not missed.
It is a sign of discipline, professionalism, unity. Why is the military so concerned with shiny boots? How would you feel if you were in court and your lawyer showed up in jeans and a t shirt? How dirty your boots are dictates your battle readiness, the military seems to think so.
It sounds like people wanting to be offended trying to find something offensive in what he is saying.
I know that was the issue with what got him fired.
The ratings dropped for HNIC (not sure if they've rebounded), so clearly he was missed by some.
I don't care if he is there or not, I don't usually watch the intermission regardless.
Anyway, I don't feel like this convo should carry on too much longer so I'll likely leave that as my last sentence.
Ok hound..like you I am not a scout, and by the way JT is no longer a centre,
We are up against the cap, JT is over valued, he can go, no significant loss and maybe with some cap freedom we can build a winner.
57 years, same old poop. Even the Islanders knew it was time. We go ripped again.
Not 1 team would pay JT 11m except us
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Hard facts.
I'm not really sure why any one would want him back even at league minimum he's a Dubas mistake and should move on unless it's to replace David Kampf as a faceoff option who plays a dump and chase role on the bottom line.
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The Islanders tried to sign him to an 8 year contract… San Jose offered him 7x13.
He took 7x11 to come home.
You might be on to something
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After series losses to Boston , Columbus, Montreal, and TB consecutively mind you. Would any other club pay John Tavares 11 million and bonuses to Captain their franchise?
On what planet is anyone wanting a player with this playoffs track record leading them to battle for 11 million US dollars?
I know you guys like to talk $ in retrospect but right now or say if he was bought out 3 years ago when he should have been , what the hell are you JT fans talking about ?
If Tampa can let go of Stamkos after 2 cup rings we can forget about JT after not even 2 series wins in Toronto. Go be Johnny Los Angeles.
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No, he definitely said some offensive things over time about Europeans (and others). These things are on record and easy to find.
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I'm European and I don't even care.
I mean that’s fine. I’m just saying the comments were made, it’s revisionist history to say they weren’t.
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I already told you… Both the Islanders and Sharks wanted him… he took less to play in Toronto.
Stamkos went to Nashville as a UFA… same UFA as Tavares will be in July.
I believe JT will sign a team friendly deal to stay until retirement in Toronto… it appears Stamkos was not willing to do that in TB.
IMO, Stamkos likely could have retired in Tampa if he was willing to take less.
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No, I’m not a scout, but then before making statements about signing other C’s, I will actually look at who is available. I don’t make lazy hot takes.
Before making comments about contracts, I actually look at the contract, instead of making lazy erroneous hot takes.
JT is not a C? What a crazy statement. I’m sure I saw him play C last year, and he will continue to play C for years and pretty well at that.
I’d bet you’d like Stamkos to replace him if he was available.
Trading JT and withholding half his cap, doesn’t give us any cap freedom. I’m not sure how I can continuously repeat this, and it ends up being too complicated for you to understand.
Islanders wanted to resign him, and others offered him more.
Surely you are taking the piss at this point, nobody can be this oblivious.
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This is completely irrelevant to my post I'm not hot taking on when Dubas signed him ages ago. "We can and we will" had us all hopeful of something more than what we got. I'm saying that after 4 consecutive series losses if he was bought out no other organization would want to pay 11 million dollars to Tavares and hand him the captaincy. We were the only organization who let this albatross anchor our 2nd line to failure after failure for that hefty price tag and status. Which is what that Niagara guy was pointing out.
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I don't think that Cherry was racist and I suspect the real reason that was fired was that he was increasingly incoherent the last few years. His slightly off-colour comment was just the excuse the CBC needed to push him aside.
But xenophobic? Oh yeah. It took a lot for a European player to win him over. Some did (Salming being one), but think of someone like Grabovski... Cherry would've loved the way he played if he was Canadian, but he wasn't, so he never liked him one bit.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
And even then how much credit can he get? It took 6 weeks.
I mean if Friedman came out tomorrow and said Patrick Laine is going to Dallas, and then on August 16th 2025 he gets traded to Dallas does Friedman get credit for calling it even though it took a year?
I don't think so, and I don't think Kyper gets credit either this took 6 weeks
Islanders are so happy they didn't and certainly were insulted because they failed. But they ended up happy.
He played a lot of wing last year because he could not cover the ice needed. Surely you watched and read that.
No, we are not scouts and many players are available that are not free agents, that is why they pay scouts and gms, not you.
Stamkos, that is some joke, another Toronto hero who wants to be paid a premium for living in the big TO.
So to review
You think JT should not be moved, can play center, and is ok with 11m cap hit because we are only paying 1m in actual cash.
You think no suitable 3rd line center is available
You hate Stamkos
You are a financial advisor at Scotiabank Arena (
) and you have no life but to search out NHL player contracts on line...from the comfort of your lazyboy chair.Have a great day
I find the way people react to a statement are really just showing their impulse, 1st thoughts, their true feelings and not necessarily what was meant by the statement.
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At one time being disciplined was considered a favourable trait, not so much now.
I think Matthews dresses well for the times. Not what I’d wear, but he’s certainly not sloppy and seems to like fashion.
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Because he was a gigachad who didn't like the Toronto media so he gave them something dumb to talk about.
This is being brushed off as a PR stunt, but it's pretty clearly a calculated move to motivate Matthews to evolve. He's going to have to be the one to take us there, you need him playing with pride in the playoffs. It forces him to take responsibility and ownership over the team's results in a way that he hasn't had to approach yet. Even as the best goal scorer in the league, without the C you can still kind of shrug your shoulder and say, "we didn't have it this year". No more sulking. The teams failing is now more symbolically his own than any other player on the roster. Whatever they can do to elicit that feeling in Matthews is worth the attempt.
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He's done his part.As opposed to the great successes now? lol The f*** you talking about?
Roster construction? Managing the cap? Drafting and developing? That's not on him.
