Heinola was injured and Lambert didn’t outplay Namestnikov. Opportunity does not equal gift.
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Heinola was injured and Lambert didn’t outplay Namestnikov. Opportunity does not equal gift.
Yup, they gave Lambert a legit chance and he hasn't played well enough. It's hardly the end of the world though. KC failed to make the team out of camp in 2017, but grabbed a spot a couple weeks later during an injury.
I expect Lambert to figure into the team this year even if he doesn't make it out of camp.
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I think Lambert has shown enough that he gets the call if there's an injury in the top 6
Arniel also discussed it earlier in camp. He doesn’t want Perfetti to have to start deep in his zone when the team transitions like would have to as a center.
I wouldn’t call it a legit chance. We are just finishing week 1 of camp. Same old risk adverse lineup decisions we always see.
He's apparently going to get another look between Cole and Fly tomorrow. He's gotta do something with it if he wants to stay in the mix.
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Kinda makes you wonder what he has to do
In his post-game, arniel mentionned play away from the puck multiple times WRT Lambert
I have a feeling that what the coaching staff is looking for in terms of his NHL readiness is much different from the dazzling plays with the puck that might jump out to us fans
He could put up 5 points vs minny but still not tick the boxes arniel wants to see
That could lead to some bitching and moaning on here when he gets sent down
I'm not sure what the coaches are looking for, but for me it's to be more decisive with and without the puck. He's coughed it up too much due to indecision. He needs to just go out and play instinctually. But yeah imo they likely are telling him that he has to have his done down pat first, second, and third.
Maybe a wake up call for him? Not that I agree with it but it is how this org seems to deal with young players.
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could be a simple as wanting to see names between perfetti/ehlers and didn't want him to skate on the 4th or 5th line
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Ouch. So looks like the two guys pegged to compete for that last d slot are going to start on the IR unless Logan's testing comes up good.
Who's the front runner now?
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So third pair ld options were heinola and stanley. Both out, possibly both longer term. Who's the next up y'all think?
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If it's closer to the minimum Ville won't actually miss too much time. Depending on the Stanly diagnosis it could put him back in the driver's seat for that spot.
Please list the number of veteran, contending teams that bring a non superstar center in as a rookie on the second line.
Its not how 'this org' deals with young players. It's how pretty much any successful NHL team deals with rookies.
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If there is no room in top 6 (or even 9), as a fan I would rather see the future on a 4th scoring line. Give me Lambert, Chibrikov and *someone* over Gus, Kupari and Appleton.
Is that stupid and short sighted? Maybe. But convince me that the Jets would bring up a guy like Stankoven for a playoff run before they would play someone like Toninato.
Is that stupid and short sighted? Maybe. But convince me that the Jets would bring up a guy like Stankoven for a playoff run before they would play someone like Toninato.
I was moreso talking about using his placement in the AHL group as a means to send the message that his camp hasnt been good enough to win a spot. It wasn't about whether they should put him at 2C or not. He hasn't earned it over Name imo even if I'm not a fan of running with him at 2C.
The org like to use the take things away to light a fire message. That was really what I was getting at.
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A timeline starting with 4 weeks for Ville is WAY better than I thought. I was thinking 3 months again, or more
What did Appleton do to some of y'all? He doesn't deserve to be in that group. He outscored both his primary linemates while costing less, with a comparable 5v5 pts/60 as Perfetti, despite a less advantageous offensive role.
And when that "kids 4th line" goes multiple games of 5-7mins, this forum will just complain. YoUrE rUiNiNg ThEM!!!
Yeah, if he can get up to speed for mid November that's really not too bad. I was thinking half a season and then he'd take a while to get ramped up to NHL mid season form
Appleton is awesome, fast tenacious winger playing some of the toughest defensive minutes in the league and scoring 35+ points. Perfect third liner honestly
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Apples 1st AHL season numbers were much better than Chibs (although apples was a year older). There's no indication rhat Chibs will ever be better than Apples
Lets see if Chibs can put up 66 points in 76 games in his 21 year old AHL year like Apples did. Until then, pump the brakes
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Heh heh... Seriously? He said that? I guess that doesn't apply to all centers. The last time Scheifele was deep in his zone was when he tried to take Evans' head off.
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