OT: All Things Coronavirus Covid-19 - Part XI - MOD ADVISORY POST 1

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Trump’s Disinfectant Remark Raises a Question About the ‘Very Stable Genius’

The president has often said he is exceptionally smart. His recent suggestion about injecting disinfectants was not.

President Trump’s self-assessment has been consistent.
“I’m, like, a very smart person,” he assured voters in 2016.
“A very stable genius,” he ruled two years later.

“I’m not a doctor,” he allowed on Thursday, pointing to his skull inside the White House briefing room, “but I’m, like, a person that has a good you-know-what.”

Mr. Trump’s performance that evening, when he suggested that injections of disinfectants into the human body could help combat the coronavirus, did not sound like the work of a doctor, a genius, or a person with a good you-know-what.

Trump’s Disinfectant Remark Raises a Question About the ‘Very Stable Genius’
 

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Large, Troubled Companies Got Bailout Money in Small-Business Loan Program

Companies with accounting problems or in trouble with the government received millions in federal loans.

A company in Georgia paid $6.5 million to resolve a Justice Department investigation — and, two weeks later, received a $10 million federally backed loan to help it survive the coronavirus crisis.

Another company, AutoWeb, disclosed last week that it had paid its chief executive $1.7 million in 2019 — a week after it received $1.4 million from the same loan program.
And Intellinetics, a software company in Ohio, got $838,700 from the government program — and then agreed, the following week, to spend at least $300,000 to purchase a rival firm.

The vast economic rescue package that President Trump signed into law last month included $349 billion in low-interest loans for small businesses. The so-called Paycheck Protection Program was supposed to help prevent small companies — generally those with fewer than 500 employees in the United States — from capsizing as the economy sinks into what looks like a severe recession.

Large, Troubled Companies Got Bailout Money in Small-Business Loan Program

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Small-Business Loan Program, Chaotic From Start, Gets 2nd Round

The Paycheck Protection Program distributed $349 billion in less than two weeks, but lenders and borrowers confronted confusion at every step.

One day before the federal government’s $349 billion aid program for small businesses was set to go live, the chief executive of a Minnesota bank was frantically dialing officials in Washington. Grand Rapids State Bank needed more time to understand the program, said the executive, Noah W. Wilcox, even as it faced a crush of borrowers. His pleas went unheeded.

“Somebody put a stake in the ground and it just wasn’t moving,” said Mr. Wilcox, who is also the chairman of the Independent Community Bankers of America, which represents about 5,000 institutions. “Secretary Mnuchin was not budging one inch from the date he initially set.”

Late on April 2, just hours before the opening, the Treasury Department released details on the Paycheck Protection Program. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told would-be borrowers that they would receive funds within a day, but the program, which promised speed, also brought chaos.

The rules confused lenders, including small community banks as well as Wall Street firms less familiar with the Small Business Administration, which was establishing the program. They were unsure about who would qualify for loans, how the loans would be distributed and how they would eventually be forgiven.

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To understand what went wrong, start with a nod to Watergate: What did the president know, and when did his White House know it?

"We now know that Xi Jinping went before the state council, the high governing body of China, and told them in a secret session on January 7 that the issue in Wuhan was so serious that he was personally stepping in and taking control," said Laurie Garrett, a Pulitzer Prize-winning science writer and author of "The Coming Plague."

"The head of state of a nation of more than a billion people doesn't personally intervene in a little outbreak with a half-a-dozen cases. Uh-unh. We now know that the CIA was passing on to the White House, 'Look, there's something potentially catastrophic emerging.'"

Breaking news on January 17, the first U.S. attempt to shut the door on the virus:
 
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what actually will kill over 100 million people is world wide food shortages but it's tough to get round the clock news coverage on that.

Well, it is pretty obvious for those of us that have at least average intelligence to see what is going to happen without social distancing. No workers on the farms or in the processing plants, canning factories, etc., because half the workforce is sick. Hydro outages leading to food spoiling and no workers to fix the grid....etc etc. Maybe if the idiots out there are told they may have nothing to eat it would make a difference....but they don't listen to anything so I highly doubt talking about the food shortage would do a damned thing other than leading to more food hoarding.
 

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I wish Trump would stop doing daily pressers, for three key reasons:

1. He clearly can’t do them without sounding like a fool
2. The media spends the entire following 24 hours leaning into him instead of maybe investigating or reporting on something more helpful
3. He’s only adding to hysteria. At some point it would be nice if we attempted to restore some normalcy, even for the sake of our children, instead of insisting on alarming every citizen we have, every single day around the clock. A little perspective or context would be nice.
 

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I wish Trump would stop doing daily pressers, for three key reasons:

1. He clearly can’t do them without sounding like a fool
2. The media spends the entire following 24 hours leaning into him instead of maybe investigating or reporting on something more helpful
3. He’s only adding to hysteria. At some point it would be nice if we attempted to restore some normalcy, even for the sake of our children, instead of insisting on alarming every citizen we have, every single day around the clock. A little perspective or context would be nice.

100%, nailed it.
 
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To understand what went wrong, start with a nod to Watergate: What did the president know, and when did his White House know it?

"We now know that Xi Jinping went before the state council, the high governing body of China, and told them in a secret session on January 7 that the issue in Wuhan was so serious that he was personally stepping in and taking control," said Laurie Garrett, a Pulitzer Prize-winning science writer and author of "The Coming Plague."

"The head of state of a nation of more than a billion people doesn't personally intervene in a little outbreak with a half-a-dozen cases. Uh-unh. We now know that the CIA was passing on to the White House, 'Look, there's something potentially catastrophic emerging.'"

Breaking news on January 17, the first U.S. attempt to shut the door on the virus:


why wasn't Canada ready?
 

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I wish Trump would stop doing daily pressers, for three key reasons:

1. He clearly can’t do them without sounding like a fool
2. The media spends the entire following 24 hours leaning into him instead of maybe investigating or reporting on something more helpful
3. He’s only adding to hysteria. At some point it would be nice if we attempted to restore some normalcy, even for the sake of our children, instead of insisting on alarming every citizen we have, every single day around the clock. A little perspective or context would be nice.
On the 2nd reason, you suggest reporters to maybe investigate or reporting on something more helpful. This is their jobs, reporting... maybe suggesting the president to also do his job would be helpful.

The media gets more criticized for doing their job...then the POTUS for not doing his job and bullying the media, constantly lying to the world and endangering lives...
 

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If you were a state you’d probably be doing way worse because the federal government took the PPE you ordered

We have more deaths than Florida with less than half the population and many of them are the elderly. I think our health care system is lacking when it comes to helping seniors. Its sad to watch.
 
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We have more deaths than Florida and many of them are the elderly. I think our health care system is lacking when it comes to helping seniors. Its sad to watch.

seems like that’s happening everywhere, I think that’s less a reflection on the health care system of Canada and more of a reflection on the virus itself. It absolutely decimates the elderly, we are having problems with it in Massachusetts too (and you can argue we have some of the best health care on the planet). Nursing home near me has dozens infected, it just sucks
 
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seems like that’s happening everywhere, I think that’s less a reflection on the health care system of Canada and more of a reflection on the virus itself. It absolutely decimates the elderly, we are having problems with it in Massachusetts too (and you can argue we have some of the best health care on the planet). Nursing home near me has dozens infected, it just sucks

I've been a patient at Newton Wellsley. Night and day the service here compared to Boston. I once had to be admitted into the trauma ward in the Montreal general, it was so jam packed with chaos I felt like I was in Mash unit. Right now I live near downtown across the street from a senior living center, been seeing ambulances taking people out of there all month
 
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